1. uw's Avatar
    Why doesn't Microsoft release an offiicial windows phone 8.1 launcher for android? Is it more important to sell the hardware or the software/services? I would think by creating/releasing an official windows phone launcher, you can add the MS services and get the android users to use MS services. Am I just being naive thinking this way?

    Only reason I bring this up is because it does't look like ATT is getting any new high end hardware this year and I was hoping to get something new this year. So instead of waiting, I might go with G3 or S5 or Note 4 and then install a windows phone launcher. It would be almost like having a high end windows phone..:)
    07-30-2014 04:52 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    My opinion:

    I'm just going to shoot that down.
    Sure, a launcher, great, it would look nice, sure, but your services idea won't matter since theyre already available on Android.

    Writing, designing, and testing such a launcher would take resources away from the important things and probably be the laughing stock of things since yet again, MS doesn't know what they're doing.

    I've been there, I had an Android on my hands and wanted a Windows Phone. A launcher doesn't go very far beyond the surface for a decent experience.. it wont be "just like" a Windows Phone device as some people like to claim. ("LOl just buy Android n instll Launchr 8,,,, what ***** buy Wp")

    Touch anything, settings, the browser, email, and BOOM you're knocked out of your Windows Phone illusion. Doesn't feel too moder.
    a5cent and ronaldme like this.
    07-30-2014 05:02 PM
  3. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Like xandros9 said WP8 launcher on Android is no where close to the real thing. It's just a homescreen and doesn't have Live Tiles. Once you're out of the homescreen, it's in another world.
    a5cent likes this.
    07-30-2014 07:52 PM
  4. uw's Avatar
    Why would a good launcher be just superficial? Why can't they add the features/functions that is standard in a windows phone to make it almost like the real thing? Doesn't launchers like Smart Launcher or Nokia's Z Launcher fundamentally change the UI, so why not a windows launcher?

    Not trolling, but just curious to see if all options were considered. If 930 was available for ATT, I wouldn't be complaining and I would get that, but since nothing decent seem to be coming to ATT, I'm considering all options.
    07-31-2014 02:01 AM
  5. Visa Declined's Avatar
    It's just a homescreen and doesn't have Live Tiles.
    Actually, it copies the app drawer also. And does have Live Tiles as well.
    07-31-2014 03:26 AM
  6. hotphil's Avatar
    Forgetting any technical limitations and commercial arrangements, if they built such a launcher, who would support it? If I've got Samsung hardware with Google's OS running Microsoft's launcher and when I use an official Facebook app it runs dog slow, who do I call? The average consumer may well be confused and blame Microsoft for something that's not their issue. The last thing MS needs at the moment is to be associated with any more pisspoor experiences.
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    07-31-2014 03:39 AM
  7. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Actually, it copies the app drawer also. And does have Live Tiles as well.
    It has WP apps with Live Tiles? I don't think so.
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    07-31-2014 11:36 AM
  8. Geddeeee's Avatar
    If MS developed a superb WP8.1 launcher for Android, why would Android users want to get the real thing?? It's counter-productive!!!
    07-31-2014 11:47 AM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    It has WP apps with Live Tiles? I don't think so.
    Actually the 3rd party WP launchers available now in the Play Store have Live Tiles. Well, they're not technically Live Tiles since that's WP, but they sure replicate them pretty accurately. It's not like that concept is anything new to Android. It's had widgets for a long time, which are basically actionable Live Tiles.
    07-31-2014 12:34 PM
  10. Visa Declined's Avatar
    It has WP apps with Live Tiles? I don't think so.
    It has app tiles that flip around and give you information, just like Windows Phone. But you can "I don't think so" all you want.
    07-31-2014 01:06 PM
  11. TechAbstract's Avatar
    It has app tiles that flip around and give you information, just like Windows Phone. But you can "I don't think so" all you want.
    All the Android apps have Live Tiles that display information too? That's good to know. I just need to power up my Android phone and give it a try again.
    08-01-2014 01:09 AM
  12. wuiyang's Avatar
    then it is gonna make people stop using windows phone as it has launcher for android. or even bad, poke fun on microsoft or say something bad about it.

    "WTF, my phone never lag like that, WINDOWS PHONE SUCK #DontUseWP"
    "LOL, Microsoft are depending on android, because their WP SUCKS"
    "OH NO, IT LAG! oh wait, it's the same on windows phone too."
    08-01-2014 11:04 AM
  13. BUDDYFUNLOVE's Avatar
    If MS developed a superb WP8.1 launcher for Android, why would Android users want to get the real thing?? It's counter-productive!!!
    I don't agree. With any launcher you still have to use the built in UI for the phone. The UI is what made me switch...no way to replicate the animations and cohesive functions you get from an actual windows phone.
    08-01-2014 11:08 AM
  14. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    And you'll have a WP looking Android phone with apps that go by Material Design. >_>
    08-01-2014 11:42 AM
  15. a5cent's Avatar
    Actually the 3rd party WP launchers available now in the Play Store have Live Tiles. Well, they're not technically Live Tiles since that's WP, but they sure replicate them pretty accurately. It's not like that concept is anything new to Android. It's had widgets for a long time, which are basically actionable Live Tiles.
    I don't think so. IMHO live tile replication for only a select few apps which the launcher knows about doesn't qualify.

    The whole point is that any app can make use of live tiles and do so in a consistent way. That only works if the concept of live tiles is supported by the OS. A launcher can't provide that.

    Then there is also the issue of UI consistency across apps, which Android is only just starting to deal with. A launcher can't provide that either.
    TechAbstract likes this.
    08-01-2014 11:56 AM
  16. anon(8921886)'s Avatar
    Apple isn't going to create a ios launcher and Microsoft neither. Out doesn't make sense. If people want a windows phone look and feel, buy a windows phone!!!
    palmujukka likes this.
    08-02-2014 07:38 AM
  17. Torcher Death's Avatar
    I don't see the point of this thread at all.... Why would Microsoft want to create an official launcher & lose what little market share they have been able to garner for WP ??
    No need to shower more love on the haters.... If you want to get the feel of a Windows Phone, then get a damn Windows Phone !!
    ronaldme likes this.
    08-02-2014 07:53 AM
  18. TechAbstract's Avatar
    I don't think so. IMHO live tile replication for only a select few apps which the launcher knows about doesn't qualify.

    The whole point is that any app can make use of live tiles and do so in a consistent way. That only works if the concept of live tiles is supported by the OS. A launcher can't provide that.

    Then there is also the issue of UI consistency across apps, which Android is only just starting to deal with. A launcher can't provide that either.
    Doesn't count as live tile support on Android then if it's just a few apps that the launcher uses.
    08-02-2014 12:42 PM
  19. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I would prefer the dual boot WP-Android phones, on a high end phone.
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Tapatalk
    08-02-2014 08:40 PM
  20. rtotheich's Avatar
    In my mind, it would be really great to have an UNOFFICIAL android launcher. Back in the day I built a hackintosh from a netbook just so I could run some old games that I played as a teenager. PC geeks are great at getting what they want that way. A lot of people love WP, don't care that much about the app gap but could seriously benefit from one or two apps that are only available on other platforms. Many of the people reading this right now probably want their bank to develop a WP application, but only a few have for instance. An unofficial emulator would let you stick with WP, continue using microsoft services, but grab the occasional android app or game just because you feel like it and I hardly think people would spend all day using it.
    09-08-2014 08:47 AM
  21. rtotheich's Avatar
    In addition, I should point out that an Android emulator for Windows is available. It's called Bluestacks ( BlueStacks ) and it's free. It doesn't stop the W8 market from developing. I only have it because one day I wanted to type whatsapp messages on my Surface and it seemed like the easiest way to do it.
    09-08-2014 08:50 AM
  22. Ashalinia's Avatar
    In addition, I should point out that an Android emulator for Windows is available. It's called Bluestacks ( BlueStacks ) and it's free. It doesn't stop the W8 market from developing. I only have it because one day I wanted to type whatsapp messages on my Surface and it seemed like the easiest way to do it.
    Because BlueStacks is terrible.

    By creating a Windows Phone launcher for Android, all Microsoft would be doing is offering more chances to stay away from actual Windows Phone. The more Windows Phone-esque features are placed in Android/iOS, the less incentive there is to use WP.

    MS has to know how to offer the services without mimicking the experience.
    09-08-2014 12:05 PM
  23. xandros9's Avatar
    In addition, I should point out that an Android emulator for Windows is available. It's called Bluestacks ( BlueStacks ) and it's free. It doesn't stop the W8 market from developing. I only have it because one day I wanted to type whatsapp messages on my Surface and it seemed like the easiest way to do it.
    w0rth noting its not exactly free.
    it asks me to pay or download a bunch of apps I dont want as payment.
    09-08-2014 05:58 PM
  24. Rodrigo Pereira Teixeira's Avatar
    Forgetting any technical limitations and commercial arrangements, if they built such a launcher, who would support it? If I've got Samsung hardware with Google's OS running Microsoft's launcher and when I use an official Facebook app it runs dog slow, who do I call? The average consumer may well be confused and blame Microsoft for something that's not their issue. The last thing MS needs at the moment is to be associated with any more pisspoor experiences.
    Exactly. Also, we should consider how sh$%^# Android is, always rebooting and freezing. People would say "WOW, just installed this MS mod and now my phone is getting the blue screen of death LOL".

    Thanks, but no thanks.

    If MS developed a superb WP8.1 launcher for Android, why would Android users want to get the real thing?? It's counter-productive!!!
    Bingo!
    09-09-2014 08:21 AM
  25. jonnaver's Avatar
    And you'll have a WP looking Android phone with apps that go by Material Design. >_>
    Yup, which is why I install Aviate launcher on my Android devices. It's a harmonic match to the android OS overall but light years ahead of the standard UI style of Android. To be honest, Aviate style launchers are the only reason I still use android. I just can't go back to vanilla android homescreens ever again and I refuse to muck around for hours with Nova + Zooper to replicate such a cool and functional UI when it only takes 5 minutes to do it on first install of Aviate.
    09-09-2014 01:27 PM

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