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  1. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Former windows phone is DOA activist tells us why the Windows Phone is dead crew should seriously consider putting several socks in it this year.

    Windows Phone: Making progress and following in the footsteps of OS X | ITProPortal.com

    "Microsoft should keep up the entry-level push, while courting aficionados with devices like Lumia Icon (pictured above), Lumia 930, or 1020. Windows Phone will get more respect, and Nokia will help bring it. Sure the apps go to Android and iOS first, like they did Windows a decade go. But people still bought Macs, and increasing numbers for a convergence of previously stated reasons. The only thing dead here is the zombie apocalypse of mindless smartphone users and pundits seeking to eat Windows Phone's brain"
    Last edited by Ebuka Allison; 08-02-2014 at 10:38 AM.
    08-02-2014 10:25 AM
  2. LockOnTech's Avatar
    I read this article, but I saw others like this on this forum. Windows phone is still here. :)
    Karthik Naik, k0de and anzi like this.
    08-02-2014 10:29 AM
  3. Theo_andravida's Avatar
    Ebuka, you must be a real *****!!!! #hatersgonnahate
    08-02-2014 10:34 AM
  4. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    I read this article, but I saw others like this on this forum. Windows phone is still here. :)
    You do realise that both I and the article are saying that WP isn't dead right?
    Warren_S, Great deal and leo5122 like this.
    08-02-2014 10:35 AM
  5. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Ebuka, you must be a real *****!!!! #hatersgonnahate
    Whoosh
    berty6294, xandros9, CSJr1 and 4 others like this.
    08-02-2014 10:51 AM
  6. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Who buys a phone based on market shares ? None that I know,however,the market share is used as a gauge to see how well something is doing correct? Then market share has a direct collation to wither people in general are buying them,and if they are making profit. If people stop buying them,just how long certain phones or the whole division do you think remain alive with how things are being done these days at Microsoft?

    Now,if Microsoft does what most large corporations do after buying out a company,and if sales continue to fall,how long do you think Microsoft will produce phones on it's own without resorting to other vendors? If the other vendors phones don't turn around the sales and the market share continues to fall.....where is the cut off point ?

    The bottom line is the only thing that matters to the company and it's share holders,not what anyone here thinks.
    mary beth hale and lSsantos like this.
    08-02-2014 12:49 PM
  7. RavenSword's Avatar
    I think the only thing that'll kill windows phone is MS if they want to. They can keep plugging away
    JamesPTao and ven07 like this.
    08-02-2014 01:48 PM
  8. jailman's Avatar
    Windows phone dead ? Hhh dude u can't kill an OS with ur mouth people dont know wot the hell is marketshare if wp phones have enough hype around they ll do fine its that simple
    JamesPTao likes this.
    08-02-2014 01:52 PM
  9. smoledman's Avatar
    I think the biggest issue remains that Microsoft is answering a question nobody asked in 2010 - "do we need a 3rd smartphone platform"?

    iOS - walled garden with beautiful phones, accessories, apps and content
    Android - open-source OS approach with multiple app stores, dozens of handsets to choose from, huge flexibility

    Windows Phone tries to a little of iOS and a little of Android and the market never asked for it. The only way Windows Phone was going to succeed if it revolutionized the hardware and software experience to the point that made people go WOW I've got to get that. Of course we know the actual history. MS has the deep pockets to keep WP going at 3-4% marketshare indefinitely but is there a point to that? I'm thinking that if there is no marketshare budge by early 2016, Nadella shuts it down.
    eortizr likes this.
    08-02-2014 02:03 PM
  10. SPIFF Costa's Avatar
    I think the biggest issue remains that Microsoft is answering a question nobody asked in 2010 - "do we need a 3rd smartphone platform"?

    iOS - walled garden with beautiful phones, accessories, apps and content
    Android - open-source OS approach with multiple app stores, dozens of handsets to choose from, huge flexibility

    Windows Phone tries to a little of iOS and a little of Android and the market never asked for it. The only way Windows Phone was going to succeed if it revolutionized the hardware and software experience to the point that made people go WOW I've got to get that. Of course we know the actual history. MS has the deep pockets to keep WP going at 3-4% marketshare indefinitely but is there a point to that? I'm thinking that if there is no marketshare budge by early 2016, Nadella shuts it down.
    I think low and mid-end phone that runs really well and gets the latest updates with a well designed OS is what sets WP apart. iPhone is very limited to apple products and is expensive. Android have variety, but low and mid end phones don't get the latest updates and are very laggy and unsafe. WP gives people the low and mid end smoothness and safeness the other platforms don't have. But that's just my opinion
    08-02-2014 02:25 PM
  11. Wielbladek's Avatar
    I really love the way customers turned into homegrown market analytics after the smartphone boom. Surely you know better than every one else that Windows Phone is dead. I'll tell you one thing. It isn't. It works, it is getting better and better each day, and it actually got lot of attention from community, and the actual users. You can say such things about really dead ( abandoned) systems like Bada OS. But WP is far from being dead. It's only not all bells and whistles in the way Steve Jobs made iPhone, there is no hype on it, so children won't get it on Christmas. And yet it is incredibly useful. That's all the story.
    08-02-2014 02:27 PM
  12. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    I'll touch on a couple of points. First of course WP is not dead. Heck, BB isn't dead. Where would Apple or Android be without the mobile market? MS didn't need to jump into the Mobil market. They chose to. The market didn't need to ask for another smartphone player, we just like variety and that's what WP gave us with a name everyone could recognize and relate to. MSFT doesn't have to be in first place for WP to be a success, when most of the world uses some form of the OS anyway. They just need to bridge the gap between enclaves of the OS's..mobile and desktop which is what they're doing with universal apps. The intent is to get that person that owns a Win7 PC that just upgraded to 8, to realize they can experience a seem less app integration experience with a WP instead of getting the same app variant on another ecosystem.
    08-02-2014 03:26 PM
  13. RavenSword's Avatar
    I really love the way customers turned into homegrown market analytics after the smartphone boom. Surely you know better than every one else that Windows Phone is dead. I'll tell you one thing. It isn't. It works, it is getting better and better each day, and it actually got lot of attention from community, and the actual users. You can say such things about really dead ( abandoned) systems like Bada OS. But WP is far from being dead. It's only not all bells and whistles in the way Steve Jobs made iPhone, there is no hype on it, so children won't get it on Christmas. And yet it is incredibly useful. That's all the story.
    I would argue almost all analysts are full of it.only difference is they get paid for it.
    ven07 and jleebiker like this.
    08-02-2014 03:27 PM
  14. smoledman's Avatar
    I would argue almost all analysts are full of it.only difference is they get paid for it.
    Especially IDC and Gartner. They've been wrong with every prediction regarding Windows Phone over the last 4 years.
    08-02-2014 03:57 PM
  15. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    I really love the way customers turned into homegrown market analytics after the smartphone boom. Surely you know better than every one else that Windows Phone is dead. I'll tell you one thing. It isn't. It works, it is getting better and better each day, and it actually got lot of attention from community, and the actual users. You can say such things about really dead ( abandoned) systems like Bada OS. But WP is far from being dead. It's only not all bells and whistles in the way Steve Jobs made iPhone, there is no hype on it, so children won't get it on Christmas. And yet it is incredibly useful. That's all the story.
    Are you talking to me? You read the OP right and not just the first half of the title?
    Brandon McLean likes this.
    08-02-2014 04:30 PM
  16. LockOnTech's Avatar
    You do realise that both I and the article are saying that WP isn't dead right?
    Understood completely.
    08-02-2014 04:41 PM
  17. stevemind's Avatar
    Competition good, and WP is getting better and better each day. People will wake up one day and realise ios is boring(only app collectors buy em) and android is yuk.
    JamesPTao likes this.
    08-02-2014 04:56 PM
  18. smoledman's Avatar
    Competition good, and WP is getting better and better each day. People will wake up one day and realise ios is boring(only app collectors buy em) and android is yuk.
    To be fair iOS 8 is providing some nice new OS features like:

    * interactive notifications
    * redesigned Spotlight
    * Family Sharing

    ​There's a lot more going on with iOS other than apps.
    08-02-2014 06:07 PM
  19. switch side method's Avatar
    I blame the staff selling phones in the shop. 99.9% they either have an android or an iphone and as they know about that they persuade customers to buy them. Plus in England there are loads of ads promoting products and saying "download it now on iphone or android" a lot of people are not actually aware of windows phone. And also Microsoft doesn't do good adverts in England. All they do is some tart holds the phone and talks about it...THATS IT !!! iphone actually shows you what the phone can do with apps and people go "wow" Microsoft really needs to show the world what the phone is actually capable of doing
    jlzimmerman, raycpl, ven07 and 4 others like this.
    08-02-2014 06:09 PM
  20. zocster's Avatar
    Articles like this will always come, you should stick to what works.

    I soon will get me a 1520 alongside my Q10, replacing my android phablet.

    Sent from pin:2AD743B7 via Tapatalk Pro
    08-02-2014 06:25 PM
  21. Jorge Holguin's Avatar
    I really enjoyed the article it summarized all what I've been saying about WP futures and about the pundits. And if you want assurance where MS [WP, Azure, Office, Vista and others] is heading just read what Mr. Nadella told to his crew; and I quote " This is the time to stop the criticism and do something about it" end of quote. This article just reaffirmed my though about MS future -bright-. WP is here to stay, pundits may not like it but they've been hating MS for the last 30 yrs we can't do nothing about it.
    Microsoft CEO to Employees: Do Something About the Criticism
    jleebiker likes this.
    08-02-2014 07:20 PM
  22. lizziej's Avatar
    And also Microsoft doesn't do good adverts in England. All they do is some tart holds the phone and talks about it...THATS IT !!! iphone actually shows you what the phone can do with apps and people go "wow" Microsoft really needs to show the world what the phone is actually capable of doing
    I bbelieve the difference is English law and Microsoft have to learn how to market better there. I'm a Brit living in the US and I love the windows phone commercials - and surface too really. I saw one yesterday with an 8.1 phone showcasing Cortana to an iPhone and Siri admitting she can't do that. In the UK, such commercials aren't allowed, with the 'my brand is better than this other brand' feel. Microsoft needs to learn how to advertise their products for their own merit and not in comparison to other devices.
    08-02-2014 07:31 PM
  23. switch side method's Avatar
    I agree with you on that one. But with so many iphone adverts surely it must click at Microsoft to start showing what the phone can do. Talking about the ram, processor,etc....doesn't register with some people. But when they see the phone being used in a helpful way people think "ahh that's quite cool, didn't know it can do that" and then... Another iphone sale.
    08-02-2014 07:36 PM
  24. btgusto's Avatar
    who buys phones based on market share? are you kidding? most iPhone people do. They see people with an iPhone and figure that's the way to go so they buy one. you walk into a room with 50 people and everyone is looking up, you will look up to. Its pack mentality, we naturally follow the crowd.
    08-02-2014 08:04 PM
  25. timppa_k's Avatar
    I think the biggest issue remains that Microsoft is answering a question nobody asked in 2010 - "do we need a 3rd smartphone platform"?

    iOS - walled garden with beautiful phones, accessories, apps and content
    Android - open-source OS approach with multiple app stores, dozens of handsets to choose from, huge flexibility
    Let's think about te future:
    Google is getting market share and soon they have 90% of the global market share. iPhone will be a small player compared to Google and they are loosing market in the future.
    BUT in China it is growing lot of companies using Gogle OS. they will use a ready OS, no development costs. They will make cheap phones and they will eat Google market share as breakfast. And they will soon have 90% market share.
    Third player is very important on the market. People who like a phone of iPhone or WP is more difficult to get to chinese camp even if they are very price competitiv. When somebody learn to use a different phone OS well he/she don't want to change the OS. This is a fact with iOS and WP. Android OS will be similar to every producer and to keep the market share ouside China is not so secure.
    08-02-2014 08:34 PM
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