08-21-2014 03:50 PM
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  1. xoxoGeorges's Avatar
    I'm really tempted to buy the passport when it comes out.
    CowardlyLions and skstrials like this.
    08-12-2014 07:28 AM
  2. SteveNoza's Avatar
    I just came over from BlackBerry because of the double typing issue on the Q10, and BlackBerry has still not dealt with the problem, or even acknowledged it. The question is; Has BlackBerry addressed this issue with the Classic & Passport? 6 + or- months down the road, will these keyboards fail too?
    08-12-2014 07:49 AM
  3. missionsparta's Avatar
    I couldn't wait for the Venue Pro with a physical keyboard. Within a month, I never used it and was typing every bit as fast with the onscreen keyboard. I'll probably never go back.
    08-12-2014 07:51 AM
  4. wpfan86's Avatar
    This thread was created in 2008, right? Seriously though, the iPhone has had no trouble catching on with businesses. Windows Phone's lack of presence in the business world has nothing to do with the lack of a physical keyboard. Creating a phone with a physical keyboard would be a tremendous flop and a complete waste of resources for a platform that is already playing catch-up.
    08-12-2014 08:04 AM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    I don't think its absolutely necessary for most of the market, but I'm kinda sad how it seems everything stagnated into one form factor.
    Like before, there was a lot more diversity! I liked the keyboard and slider in my Palm Pre, seeing those fancy stuff was nice.
    Jan Tomsic likes this.
    08-12-2014 08:06 AM
  6. SteveNoza's Avatar
    I couldn't wait for the Venue Pro with a physical keyboard. Within a month, I never used it and was typing every bit as fast with the onscreen keyboard. I'll probably never go back.
    I agree with you, the on screen keyboards have come a long way, and are in many ways better than the mechanical ones anymore. But, there will be some that will NEVER give up on a real keyboard. It's too bad about the double typing issue on the Q10, as I feel that it was the best BlackBerry I ever owned.
    08-12-2014 08:33 AM
  7. negative1ne's Avatar
    i agree with the sentiment about keyboards,
    which is why i still have and use the LG optimus
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    lg_quantum_windows_phone_715.jpg

    people think that keyboards are dead, and most companies would agree.

    buts it an issue with the manufacturers and not necessarily a case of the consumer.

    in fact there is still a demand, and not just from business or blackberry owners:
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    Lots Of People Really Want Slideout-Keyboard Phones: Where Are They? - Slashdot

    granted, its a very small survey, but the number out there is still more than > 0.

    i'm not switching to windows 8 phone, until there is an alternative.

    i'm perfectly happy with sticking with this one for several years if i have to.
    they are cheap, reliable, and give me a much better keyboard, text entry experience
    than any touch interface will.

    it's a minority opinion of course. but there are many phones that cater to other niche
    minorities, and they can still make them.

    you can have a windows phone, and one with a hardware keyboard.

    they are not mutually exclusive ideas.

    later
    -1
    08-12-2014 03:07 PM
  8. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    I really can't type with a physical keyboard anymore. Even the new blackberries. It feels unnatural for me
    08-12-2014 03:12 PM
  9. docfreed's Avatar
    The "double-typing" issue was solved and phones made after about May of 2013 do not exhibit this behavior.
    08-12-2014 03:27 PM
  10. SteveNoza's Avatar
    The "double-typing" issue was solved and phones made after about May of 2013 do not exhibit this behavior.
    There were a couple of posts of people having double typing with production dates of June 2013, and the 2 posters on the current page that have May 2013 production dates have only owned their phones 1 month and 5 months, someone had said it takes about an average of 6 months for the double typing to develop, that's just about what it took for mine. People keep showing up with the double typing issue, some with multiple replacement devices and/ or keyboards doing it, I would think some of those would be current production runs. Everything is speculation until BlackBerry addresses the issue.
    08-12-2014 11:37 PM
  11. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I used Nokia Symbian and BlackBerry devices previously and always thought I liked physical keypads. However, I wouldn't use one anymore. I type faster with a virtual keypad, and I wouldn't want to use a tiny screen that goes along with devices that have physical keypads.
    RJ Priest and BobLobIaw like this.
    08-12-2014 11:43 PM
  12. negative1ne's Avatar
    I used Nokia Symbian and BlackBerry devices previously and always thought I liked physical keypads. However, I wouldn't use one anymore. I type faster with a virtual keypad, and I wouldn't want to use a tiny screen that goes along with devices that have physical keypads.
    you realize you lose a lot of screen area with the virtual keyboard.

    i dont lose any on mine, and i can type more accurately and faster than most people
    with an onscreen keyboard, where your fingers cover the screen while typing.

    later
    -1
    08-13-2014 10:14 AM
  13. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    you realize you lose a lot of screen area with the virtual keyboard.

    i dont lose any on mine, and i can type more accurately and faster than most people
    with an onscreen keyboard, where your fingers cover the screen while typing.

    later
    -1
    You don't lose any because its small to begin with. That's the point.
    And besides, what about when we're not typing? Also, I cant handle Phys KBs anymore. Tried to send a text via Blackberry, the keys were a bit too annoying and unresponsive
    08-13-2014 10:17 AM
  14. LockOnTech's Avatar
    As a person such as myself who have used most major platforms, I must say that I miss my keyboard on my BB Curve; lightning fast typing. :)
    08-13-2014 01:11 PM
  15. negative1ne's Avatar
    You don't lose any because its small to begin with. That's the point.
    And besides, what about when we're not typing? Also, I cant handle Phys KBs anymore. Tried to send a text via Blackberry, the keys were a bit too annoying and unresponsive
    you lose a lot of space when typing onscreen.

    messaging_5f00_autosuggestion_5f00_534de8c2.png

    i can see the entire screen on my phone, because it doesn't take up any space.

    and if it was a web page, i can see the page, and not block it with my fingers.

    later
    -1
    08-13-2014 01:49 PM
  16. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    you lose a lot of space when typing onscreen.

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    i can see the entire screen on my phone, because it doesn't take up any space.

    and if it was a web page, i can see the page, and not block it with my fingers.

    later
    -1
    I meant on physical phones. You don't lose any screen space because its minimal to begin with
    08-13-2014 02:02 PM
  17. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    With swipe typing who needs physical keyboard
    RJ Priest likes this.
    08-13-2014 02:08 PM
  18. Bobvfr's Avatar
    With swipe typing who needs physical keyboard
    Beat me to it, swiping is the way to go, and I swiped all this message apart from the capital I's.



    Bob
    RJ Priest likes this.
    08-13-2014 02:15 PM
  19. RJ Priest's Avatar
    I respect that we each have our preferences. I have no desire for a physical keyboard. Why type every single character on a physical keyboard when the default WP8 keyboard is so good. I rarely type more than 2 characters, as the world suggestion nails down predicting 98% of the words in my sentence. In many instances, I can even form entire sentences by just tapping on the suggested words after my first word. I love it!

    Typing out every character can be a challenging habit to break. My brother is always rapidly typing out full words on his 920, and I'm always like, "dude, you don't need to do that."
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-13-2014 07:14 PM
  20. negative1ne's Avatar
    swipe might be good for some people.

    but it's hardly a solution for mistyping words, and still takes up space on the screen.

    you all seem to be missing the point, that a physical keyboard allows you to get access
    to all the screen.

    and yes, if i don't open the keyboard, i can still get an onscreen touch keyboard (which i never use).

    it shows up in both portrait and landscape mode too.

    i'll take more accurate typing any day, over some new type of keyboard.

    Also, i have easy access to all the symbols, foreign letters, and other nonstandard ones
    a lot quicker than going through several touch menus.

    later
    -1
    08-14-2014 10:25 AM
  21. negative1ne's Avatar
    I meant on physical phones. You don't lose any screen space because its minimal to begin with
    that would be on blackberry phones only then.

    the windows phone with hardware keyboards were all sliders.

    later
    -1
    08-14-2014 10:27 AM
  22. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    that would be on blackberry phones only then.

    the windows phone with hardware keyboards were all sliders.

    later
    -1
    True. However the Nokia N97 had an atrocious KB and I cannot stand phys kbs anymore so...personal pref. And all that
    08-14-2014 01:23 PM
  23. anon(8780439)'s Avatar
    It'll be the doom of us all
    The phones are already thick mate
    08-17-2014 01:58 PM
  24. colinkiama's Avatar
    I don't really understand the need for a keyboard anymore. Swiping is way better than typing. Shape writing has held the world record. However since we are people and we despise change, there should be a windows phone with a keyboard. We should have Blackberry as an OEM.
    08-17-2014 02:04 PM
  25. Torcher Death's Avatar
    When MS can go ahead with releasing the terrible pseudo-android X series... I don't see why they can't have a couple of phones with sliding physical keyboards. If anything, it'll increase the market share by making it easier for older generations to use it & also since it'll be a bit different for the fixed box type design, could be helpful in wooing more people over to WP.
    08-17-2014 02:16 PM
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