08-27-2014 10:20 AM
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  1. Jazmac's Avatar
    Microsoft considered renaming Internet Explorer to escape its checkered past
    The team hasn't completely ruled out the possibility of re-branding the browser.

    Microsoft has had "passionate" discussions about renaming Internet Explorer to distance the browser from its tarnished image, according to answers from members of the developer team given in a reddit Ask Me Anything session today.
    In spite of significant investment in the browserwith the result that Internet Explorer 11 is really quite goodmany still regard the browser with contempt, soured on it by the lengthy period of neglect that came after the release of the once-dominant version 6. Microsoft has been working to court developers and get them to give the browser a second look, but the company still faces an uphill challenge.

    More here
    08-17-2014 10:14 PM
  2. k0de's Avatar
    I think this is a terrible mistake. IE is still dominant on the desktops and laptops markets. Why fix something that's not broken? I say wait until Chrome, Safari, or Firefox overtake
    IE in any of these markets before rebranding or renaming.
    08-17-2014 10:21 PM
  3. Jazmac's Avatar
    I think this is a terrible mistake. IE is still dominant on the desktops and laptops markets. Why fix something that's not broken? I say wait until Chrome, Safari, or Firefox overtake
    IE in any of these markets before rebranding or renaming.
    There was a time when Microsoft would put money into the browser and it showed by the number of average people and businesses built their lives around it. They haven't been so interested in that kind of competition in the last few years. Not that they are incapable of competing, they just haven't. Could be the threats from the EU that dampened that urge to do I don't know. but it is its name. If they decide anything like that, I suspect they would announce a new browser with some trendy name for "testing purposes". Then make a browser that could do all kinds of things including word flow and Cortana without the need for plug ins and be virtually immune to Malware.
    I could see that track more than renaming IE.
    08-17-2014 11:16 PM
  4. bsayegh's Avatar
    Yes, though it will only work on casual users. Anyone who keeps up with tech in any way will see right through the name change.

    But the other problem is that users have no reason to leave. Most people a very happy with Chrome, so why switch? The only reason anyone would switch is if IE becomes much better than Chrome. There are things I like better about either browser, but IE is certainly not on the way to being much better than Chrome.
    smoledman likes this.
    08-18-2014 10:27 AM
  5. Rodrigo Pereira Teixeira's Avatar
    Don't know why I don't use I.E... I like it's concept, but there are a few bugs here and there that keeps me from using it. I generally prefer Chrome, but I stopped using it due it's MASSIVE ram and battery consumption. Right now I'm using Opera and loving it, with I.E as a secondary browser. Firefox is away from my computer for at least three good years.
    08-18-2014 10:32 AM
  6. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    WPCentral already covered this last week: Microsoft talks about Internet Explorer rebranding debates, hints at UserVoice feedback | Windows Phone Central

    But from what I understood from the articles, it appears that they have already decided to keep the name Internet Explorer.
    08-18-2014 10:34 AM
  7. radmanvr's Avatar
    What would they change it to? I mean does it have to be "cool and hip" name?
    08-18-2014 10:34 AM
  8. bsayegh's Avatar
    What would they change it to? I mean does it have to be "cool and hip" name?
    Doesn't have to be cool or hip, but IE has a stigma. Its very hard to get rid of a stigma.
    08-18-2014 10:38 AM
  9. Jazmac's Avatar
    WPCentral already covered this last week: Microsoft talks about Internet Explorer rebranding debates, hints at UserVoice feedback | Windows Phone Central

    But from what I understood from the articles, it appears that they have already decided to keep the name Internet Explorer.
    I missed that read. I'm trying to expand beyond the WPCentral boarders to find stories with different prospective and point of view. Thanks.
    08-18-2014 08:08 PM
  10. Jazmac's Avatar
    Don't know why I don't use I.E... I like it's concept, but there are a few bugs here and there that keeps me from using it. I generally prefer Chrome, but I stopped using it due it's MASSIVE ram and battery consumption. Right now I'm using Opera and loving it, with I.E as a secondary browser. Firefox is away from my computer for at least three good years.
    I quit using Chrome because of its subculture it creates on my computer. What I mean is, even if you uninstall it, it keeps a hidden folder that doesn't uninstall and continues to ping google servers. Don't like that. When I say go, go. I use Firefox for the most part but IE remains the default browser. IE11 ain't half bad.
    08-18-2014 08:16 PM
  11. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Don't know why I don't use I.E... I like it's [sic] concept
    What concept of IE are you talking about? The fact that it's a web browser?
    Nogitsune Micah likes this.
    08-20-2014 06:55 AM
  12. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I quit using Chrome because of its subculture it creates on my computer. What I mean is, even if you uninstall it, it keeps a hidden folder that doesn't uninstall and continues to ping google servers. Don't like that. When I say go, go.
    Evidence please.

    (I'm not saying you are wrong, but a claim like this needs to be backed up)
    08-20-2014 06:58 AM
  13. WinFan1's Avatar
    What would they change it to? I mean does it have to be "cool and hip" name?
    Microsofts new internet browsing application update one beta lol
    08-20-2014 07:03 AM
  14. Jazmac's Avatar
    Evidence please.

    (I'm not saying you are wrong, but a claim like this needs to be backed up)
    Its pretty much common knowledge to those of us in tech but here is one of many links to make the point. Well, here is a second link. The uninstall issue link
    Guytronic likes this.
    08-20-2014 10:26 PM
  15. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Its pretty much common knowledge to those of us in tech but here is one of many links to make the point. Well, here is a second link. The uninstall issue link
    As far as I can see, none of those links say that Chrome continues to ping Google's servers after uninstallation. That's a serious claim, so I think you should back it up or withdraw it.

    Applications leaving behind traces (often large) after uninstallation seems to be a very common problem on Windows. I've suffered with it with several applications recently.
    Last edited by anony_mouse; 08-21-2014 at 01:30 AM.
    08-21-2014 01:10 AM
  16. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Rename it Ultron.

    People will download anything named "Ultron."
    Guytronic likes this.
    08-21-2014 01:22 AM
  17. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Jokes aside, Internet Explorer has been making gains in the anime-loving crowd thanks to Microsoft Taiwan's marketing.

    That, and the F12 developer tools in IE11 are fantastic especially if you use VS2013.
    08-21-2014 01:23 AM
  18. Jazmac's Avatar
    As far as I can see, none of those links say that Chrome continues to ping Google's servers after uninstallation. That's a serious claim, so I think you should back it up or withdraw it.

    Applications leaving behind traces (often large) after uninstallation seems to be a very common problem on Windows. I've suffered with it with several applications recently.
    You have the choice to agree or let it alone. I don't plan to withdraw anything.
    Guytronic likes this.
    08-21-2014 08:48 AM
  19. anony_mouse's Avatar
    You have the choice to agree or let it alone. I don't plan to withdraw anything.
    So let's be clear - you're making a serious allegation (that after uninstallation, Google Chrome continues to 'ping' Google's servers for a purpose or purposes that remain unstated) but you're not prepared to back it up (*) or withdraw it, yet you expect people to believe you. Please explain to me again on what grounds you are making the claim, and also the logic of your position?

    (*) I couldn't see any evidence to support your claim in the links that you posted, but if I missed something then please let me know and tell me exactly where to look.
    08-21-2014 09:20 AM
  20. Jazmac's Avatar
    So let's be clear - you're making a serious allegation (that after uninstallation, Google Chrome continues to 'ping' Google's servers for a purpose or purposes that remain unstated) but you're not prepared to back it up (*) or withdraw it, yet you expect people to believe you. Please explain to me again on what grounds you are making the claim, and also the logic of your position?

    (*) I couldn't see any evidence to support your claim in the links that you posted, but if I missed something then please let me know and tell me exactly where to look.
    Bing is your buddy and google is your friend.
    08-21-2014 08:51 PM
  21. tgp's Avatar
    Its pretty much common knowledge to those of us in tech but here is one of many links to make the point. Well, here is a second link. The uninstall issue link
    Google originally designed Chrome to install in the AppData folder, in part to work around user restrictions. That way any user can install it whether or not they have administrator rights. This also had the benefit of making Chrome user specific on a machine. Google also provided another installer for business that installed Chrome in Program Files (Program Files (x86) folder in x64 computers).

    About a year ago Google changed it so Chrome installs in Program Files (or Program Files (x86)) by default, unless the user does not have administrative rights. In that case it will install to AppData. The links provided above are old and out of date.

    As far as uninstalling, Windows does not uninstall cleanly anyway. After a normal uninstall there will almost always be remnants of the uninstalled program left behind. I'm a PC tech, and when I remove programs such as toolbars while cleaning up a computer, I almost always use Revo Uninstaller because after the default Windows uninstall it manually scours the system for leftovers, including files, folders, and registry keys & values, for "debris." More often than not it finds something. I've never had issues uninstalling Chrome, but I would imagine that if a machine could not uninstall it, it's because it was not installed in the default location. And even if the folder was left behind, I've not heard or read anywhere (besides in this thread) that its purpose is to report home.

    Bing is your buddy and google is your friend.
    Bingo!
    08-21-2014 09:38 PM
  22. smoledman's Avatar
    Far more important then the name is bringing feature parity with Google Chrome.

    #1 - Ditch Trident and use WebKit. Sure WebKit is not true HTML5 standards-based but it's the real-world standard for web.
    #2 - Multiple account support
    #3 - True extension system
    #4 - More robust history(per device)
    #5 - Full sync(history, bookmarks, extensions)
    #6 - Ability to search settings
    #7 - Round the tabs, the edges to too sharp. People prefer rounded corners on everything including UIs. Make the tab row flush with the top of screen.
    #8 - Notifications

    That's my must-have list to switch back to IE.
    08-21-2014 11:15 PM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    #1 - Ditch Trident and use WebKit. Sure WebKit is not true HTML5 standards-based but it's the real-world standard for web.
    I'd prefer compliance with the W3C standards, not something dictated by Apple. Use of WebKit rather than true HTML5 is as bad as the issues with early versions of IE, where developers had to code differently for IE and everything else.

    WebKit is the contemporary version of IE (using a particular company's preference rather than official standards). Only this time, it's Apple, not Microsoft.
    LuvMeSomeWP likes this.
    08-22-2014 12:14 AM
  24. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Bing is your buddy and google is your friend.
    I have, and I can't find any evidence for your claim. As you are making this claim, the onus is on you to substantiate it. Clear?
    08-22-2014 01:52 AM
  25. smoledman's Avatar
    I'd prefer compliance with the W3C standards, not something dictated by Apple. Use of WebKit rather than true HTML5 is as bad as the issues with early versions of IE, where developers had to code differently for IE and everything else.

    WebKit is the contemporary version of IE (using a particular company's preference rather than official standards). Only this time, it's Apple, not Microsoft.
    sorry but the marketplace has spoken and WebKit won. There is not point in being stubborn about this.
    08-22-2014 01:58 AM
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