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09-12-2014 12:55 PM
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  1. Rodrigo Pereira Teixeira's Avatar
    Anyone knows if there will be another event where Microsoft can announce new devices? 'Cause I consider a HUGE mistake holding off the market that new Smartwatch, which was suposed to be released in October... I'm dying to buy one and I was considering a Pebble, but I was holding my breath waiting for a MSFT unity... Should I hope to see one this year?
    09-04-2014 01:58 PM
  2. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Much prefer an Xbox Music music player than a smartwatch.....




    Bob
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    09-04-2014 02:33 PM
  3. Marco Ciccone's Avatar
    I prefer smartbands. I'm waiting for new fit bits or Atlas, a very powerful smart band for strength training... and they said they'll develop a WP app! Cannot wait...
    09-04-2014 04:42 PM
  4. squire777's Avatar
    Are smartwatches even selling for other platforms? Last I heard they were a bit of a flop, and I don't think I've seen anyone use one in public aside from one guy talking into his watch. He looked like a bit of a dork doing so.
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    09-05-2014 12:39 AM
  5. jmshub's Avatar
    Are smartwatches even selling for other platforms? Last I heard they were a bit of a flop, and I don't think I've seen anyone use one in public aside from one guy talking into his watch. He looked like a bit of a dork doing so.
    Exactly. I read Samsung and LG have several watches in the market, not to mention the various other companies like Pebble that have been selling them, but I have yet to see one out in the world.
    09-05-2014 11:38 AM
  6. bilzkh's Avatar
    Microsoft's probably waiting to see what Apple does... I'm sure putting a 'micro-smartphone on the wrist' was an idea, but like Android Wear, was deemed too geeky or limited for a mainstream market.

    I suspect Microsoft (or at least Myerson's team) is trying to develop an "OS" that could fit on exceptionally small and low-powered hardware. But the main challenge on that front might be figuring out exactly what one ought to put on such a system without going overboard (like Android Wear).

    The ideal smartwatch, in my opinion, would be something that's light, small and stylish that gives me the information I actually need all the time. A boarding pass or navigation data is great, but travel is still an occasional or infrequent event. On the other hand, basic notifications (e.g. do I have texts, social network updates, emails, calls, etc) are frequent events, and to display such info, how much hardware do you really need?

    I suspect Microsoft's thinking on the latter perspective, i.e. pushing what is essentially an updated Pebble (and supplemented by a much more powerful fitness and health band for those who need it). But they're probably holding back to see what Apple does, so as to ensure that they're en-route with the mainstream.

    But if I were Microsoft, I'd consider developing a watch that is relatively basic, i.e. show me the # of texts, calls, emails, messaging texts (WhatsApp, FB msgr, etc). Offer a $150 Lumia-esque device in different colours and focused on durability, and a $500 set of premium ones (2 for men and 2 for women) in partnership with well established watchmakers.
    Last edited by bilzkh; 09-05-2014 at 03:29 PM.
    09-05-2014 03:18 PM
  7. dkediger's Avatar
    Microsoft's probably waiting to see what Apple does... I'm sure putting a 'micro-smartphone on the wrist' was an idea, but like Android Wear, was deemed too geeky or limited for a mainstream market.

    I suspect Microsoft (or at least Myerson's team) is trying to develop an "OS" that could fit on exceptionally small and low-powered hardware. But the main challenge on that front might be figuring out exactly what one ought to put on such a system without going overboard (like Android Wear).

    The ideal smartwatch, in my opinion, would be something that's light, small and stylish that gives me the information I actually need all the time. A boarding pass or navigation data is great, but travel is still an occasional or infrequent event. On the other hand, basic notifications (e.g. do I have texts, social network updates, emails, calls, etc) are frequent events, and to display such info, how much hardware do you really need?

    I suspect Microsoft's thinking on the latter perspective, i.e. pushing what is essentially an updated Pebble (and supplemented by a much more powerful fitness and health band for those who need it). But they're probably holding back to see what Apple does, so as to ensure that they're en-route with the mainstream.

    But if I were Microsoft, I'd consider developing a watch that is relatively basic, i.e. show me the # of texts, calls, emails, messaging texts (WhatsApp, FB msgr, etc). Offer a $150 Lumia-esque device in different colours and focused on durability, and a $500 set of premium ones (2 for men and 2 for women) in partnership with well established watchmakers.
    This is what I would love to see come out. At the present, I use a "throwback" watch, but would love to see this type of device from Microsoft. Throw some music controls on it and its golden. I'm not a hardcore runner, but would just love this in the right form factor.
    09-05-2014 03:49 PM
  8. astondg's Avatar
    I prefer smartbands. I'm waiting for new fit bits or Atlas, a very powerful smart band for strength training... and they said they'll develop a WP app! Cannot wait...
    This is what MS is supposed to be developing, a band type device focussed on fitness. I have no idea why nothing was announced, unless they're planning another event for October. The rumours are that the band is a big deal so maybe they want to announce it separately?
    09-05-2014 03:59 PM
  9. Makm's Avatar
    Just bcos all the other brands are bringing out smartwatches now doesnt mean Microsoft will have to bring out a smartwatch too. We can live without it. There are many other improvements left to be done. Let them polish those first. We dont want to see any more flops from Microsoft.
    09-05-2014 04:03 PM
  10. osallent's Avatar
    Yay, another gadget to carry a charger for and to have to stress over it's power supply. With my smartphone, tablet, fitbit, laptop, bluetooth portable mini-speaker, and dedicated e-reader (I'm a heavy reader) I think I already have enough gadgets to worry about charging. The last thing I want is another gadget to charge up. Call me old fashioned, but I'll stick to my automatic Swiss and German sports and dress watches. I'm fine with having to service a fine watch once every 6-8 years instead of having to plug a digital one up every 8-12 hours to a wall plug.

    If I want updates, that's what my smartphone is for. I really don't need another gadget to duplicate the same information...especially when my phone is on me at all times. The only times a smartwatch might be useful is when I'm bathing or swimming, but who wants to be distracted by Twitter updates or emails when taking a bath or going for a nice swim? Not me! I find it refreshing to have one or two moments during the day when I'm not constantly plugged in to the world and being distracted by emails, social media, or news updates.
    Last edited by osallent; 09-05-2014 at 08:12 PM.
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    09-05-2014 08:01 PM
  11. astondg's Avatar
    With my smartphone, tablet, fitbit, laptop, bluetooth portable mini-speaker, and dedicated e-reader (I'm a heavy reader) I think I already have enough gadgets to worry about charging. The last thing I want is another gadget to charge up.
    The rumours are that Microsoft is making a device more like a fitness band, so it would replace your fitbit rather than be another device and might also then provide better battery life than other smartwatches.

    I also own an automatic watch and have no intention of replacing it entirely with a smart watch but I am excited about a better fitness band (inc. heart rate & galvanic skin response) that also integrates with my phone.

    A true smart watch I could do if it was an automatic movement with an oled or e-ink screen on top that was just for notifications & maybe quick access to music controls or the currently open app (e.g. to start & stop GPS tracking). I used to have a Casio Twincept so I'm thinking similar to that but mechanical, modernised & more classically stylish.
    09-06-2014 06:09 AM
  12. Bobvfr's Avatar
    So it would replace your fitbit
    Bit late for me then, all my fit bits sagged years ago.



    Bob
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    09-06-2014 02:42 PM
  13. bilzkh's Avatar
    Yay, another gadget to carry a charger for and to have to stress over it's power supply. With my smartphone, tablet, fitbit, laptop, bluetooth portable mini-speaker, and dedicated e-reader (I'm a heavy reader) I think I already have enough gadgets to worry about charging. The last thing I want is another gadget to charge up. Call me old fashioned, but I'll stick to my automatic Swiss and German sports and dress watches. I'm fine with having to service a fine watch once every 6-8 years instead of having to plug a digital one up every 8-12 hours to a wall plug.

    If I want updates, that's what my smartphone is for. I really don't need another gadget to duplicate the same information...especially when my phone is on me at all times. The only times a smartwatch might be useful is when I'm bathing or swimming, but who wants to be distracted by Twitter updates or emails when taking a bath or going for a nice swim? Not me! I find it refreshing to have one or two moments during the day when I'm not constantly plugged in to the world and being distracted by emails, social media, or news updates.
    What if they're all one day Qi charging capable and there's a giant Qi charging bowl you could dump it all into?
    09-06-2014 09:57 PM
  14. gomezz's Avatar
    One concern I have about these so called "smart" watches is that they are not clever enough to tell the time accurately. If they time-sync to the phone then that is no good as my phone (which in turn syncs to my service provider) can be up to a minute out. No thanks, I will stick with my trusty old radio-controlled watch which syncs to the split second with the local atomic clock.
    09-07-2014 03:28 AM
  15. blinkk2's Avatar
    I really hope that they will release one before the end of the year. I've been thinking of buying a smart band for a while now but since the rumors of Microsoft releasing one - I've been waiting on the purchase. I was also considering another phone, one with 1080, for development of course :)) but no flagship device.

    Disappointing really.
    09-07-2014 01:19 PM
  16. Kahuna Cowboy's Avatar
    No need for one. All have failed until the Moto 360, and it remains to be seen if that is just a flash in the pan. Also, these smart watches are basically a notifications screen, health monitor, and virtual assistant on the wrist. Until WP 8.1 Microsoft had none of these, might be better to iron out the notifications shade, health kits, and Cortana before expanding them into a wearable.
    09-07-2014 08:03 PM
  17. bilzkh's Avatar
    No need for one. All have failed until the Moto 360, and it remains to be seen if that is just a flash in the pan. Also, these smart watches are basically a notifications screen, health monitor, and virtual assistant on the wrist. Until WP 8.1 Microsoft had none of these, might be better to iron out the notifications shade, health kits, and Cortana before expanding them into a wearable.
    Yeah, the problem is that we don't have an idea of what a 'smart wearable' actually is! I think companies are jumping on watches because it's a familiar concept, but is that true smart wearable?

    Star Trek had tricorders, com badges, etc, but those solutions didn't manifest over to real life. Instead, we got the smartphone with combines a lot of that. Smart watches are ideas from the 1950s, maybe they weren't meant to happen...

    Instead, I think the 'true' smart wearable are goods that can last forever on their own (no charging) and make our lives noticeably easier. I am thinking about jewelry such as rings and basic watches that could let us engage in wireless transactions without pulling out our wallets or phones. I am thinking about implants that affect our eating and exercise behaviours.
    09-07-2014 09:27 PM
  18. J Ice70's Avatar
    Only smart watch I've seen used made two accidental calls, one of which it had trouble hanging up on. I'll stick to my phone, it just works well for me.
    09-07-2014 10:19 PM
  19. myfyp2's Avatar
    Other than Pebble, I have no interest in other smartwatches. The Android Wear watches look nice, but the poor battery life is an extreme turn off. I don't want to charge my watch every night. At least with a Pebble watch, I can charge every 5 days or so. However, there is no Pebble app for WP (official or third party), so....
    09-08-2014 05:20 AM
  20. lcw731's Avatar
    Smart watches will be a fad, much like tablets are proving to be. Why spend the money to develop something that won't be around long enough to cover the development costs.
    09-08-2014 12:17 PM
  21. Rodrigo Pereira Teixeira's Avatar
    Well, mostly features I want on a smartwatch are present on a smartband, which means... Fitness, fitness and fitness... If MSFT develop such thing, I will be more than happy. Problem is... No word from MSFT over smartwatches or smartbands...
    09-08-2014 12:35 PM
  22. onysi's Avatar
    Pressures on you Microsoft. Both android and apple have smartwatch now.
    09-09-2014 05:20 PM
  23. badplanet's Avatar
    Other than Pebble, I have no interest in other smartwatches. The Android Wear watches look nice, but the poor battery life is an extreme turn off. I don't want to charge my watch every night. At least with a Pebble watch, I can charge every 5 days or so. However, there is no Pebble app for WP (official or third party), so....
    Technically there is a 3rd party Pebble app for WP8 called Pebble Watch Pro. It is limited to what WP8 allows so no background capability, no phone call info, no SMS and no email alerts.

    It does offer music control and calendar, twitter, network, battery weather alerts. In addition it can update the Pebble firmware and easily install lots of watch faces, apps and games on the Pebble. Also allows remote control of the WP8 FM radio. Of course you also get the date and time.
    09-09-2014 07:33 PM
  24. Jean Sagarese's Avatar
    Well I may be back to Windows depending on what comes down the road but it looks like I will return to Apple I like the larger phone and yes I sure would love the watch
    09-09-2014 07:39 PM
  25. smoledman's Avatar
    Considering Nadella scrapped McLaren, I wouldn't be surprised if he scrapped the smartwatch/band thing too. He seems to be hell-bent on getting out of the hardware business. Never mind that the underwhelming Apple Watch leaves a HUGE opportunity, he just doesn't have any vision.
    09-09-2014 10:50 PM
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