11-11-2014 10:16 AM
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  1. hisham691's Avatar
    Google won't share there apps with windowsphone like YouTube, google earth and so .. The question is WHY DID MICROSOFT SHARE BING APPS, ONEDRIVE AND OFFICE WITH ANDROID ?? It's really not fair they get our apps and we don't get theirs
    Last edited by hisham691; 10-27-2014 at 12:33 PM.
    10-25-2014 01:49 PM
  2. Makm's Avatar
    MS already doesn't have enough market share in the mobile industry. And if they don't share their apps with the other companies like Google they will be way more less popular than they are now. MS needs to prove everywhere that their apps are no slouch and only apps of Google aren't the best.
    10-25-2014 01:53 PM
  3. hisham691's Avatar
    But why they don't make a deal with google to provide their apps to windowsphone??
    10-25-2014 01:55 PM
  4. trekgraham's Avatar
    Is Dropbox owned by Google? I am slowly moving over my Dropbox to OneDrive anyways
    10-25-2014 02:00 PM
  5. spaulagain's Avatar
    Drop Box has nothing to do with Google. They are independent. Rudy made a great 3rd party app though...

    Check out "CloudSix for Dropbox" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...e-522089b67518
    Laura Knotek and Jazmac like this.
    10-25-2014 02:09 PM
  6. hisham691's Avatar
    Sorry for that thought it was Google's
    10-25-2014 02:11 PM
  7. spaulagain's Avatar
    But why they don't make a deal with google to provide their apps to windowsphone??
    Because Google views MS as a threat in the market. MS already attempted writing Google apps for WP like YouTube. But Google kept changing the API and requirements to basically block MS from making the apps.

    Google behaves like MS did in the 90s, swinging their **** around in the market.

    Windows 10 is the only hope we'll have for any Windows/Google apps.
    10-25-2014 02:13 PM
  8. noobchief's Avatar
    Google is selfish, this is why I don't support Google. Heck never even used Google's services before!
    10-25-2014 02:18 PM
  9. hisham691's Avatar
    But how can we make sure that windows 10 will work on our Lumia devices .. WP 8 didn't work on WP 7.x so we can't be sure
    10-25-2014 03:12 PM
  10. jmshub's Avatar
    Google has used the excuse that the marketshare is insufficient to devote apps to Windows Phone, and that wouldn't be entirely untrue, except that Google has history of open animosity towards Windows Phone. Microsoft built a fantastic Youtube app that Google shut down because Microsoft didn't receive permission from Google to use some particular APIs in the app. Then there was a few days where the Google Maps website was actually being blocked on google's end by any web browser that had Windows Phone in it's user string.

    Microsoft chose not to support WP7 series hardware with WP8. The difference between WP7-WP8 was much greater than WP8-WP10 will likely be. We don't know any firm information about WP10, but I expect that current hardware will be upgradable to WP10.
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    10-25-2014 03:36 PM
  11. primuxprimux's Avatar
    bro ,, MS giving apps by thinking to increase the rating ,, and for us Ms rating is main ,, and do not worry bro ,, apps needs a good os ,, not like hangdroid :)
    hisham691 likes this.
    10-25-2014 03:41 PM
  12. belodion's Avatar
    I have YouTube on my Lumia 1020, as well as on my two Android phones. Similarly, I have OneDrive on the Androids, as well as on the 1020.
    10-25-2014 07:14 PM
  13. Bodeanicus's Avatar
    So, why don't we start a class action suit against Google?
    10-25-2014 09:38 PM
  14. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Because it won't do much, one of Google's executives is highly anti-Microsoft, and always has been for years upon years. His view won't change over night sadly.
    10-25-2014 09:48 PM
  15. realwarder's Avatar
    When there are enough Windows Phones in use Google will have to add their services or be loosing out on a large chunk of customers. Until then they are motivated to hurt WP by not supporting it.
    10-25-2014 09:51 PM
  16. Aresjr21's Avatar
    To be honest (and frank with you) if Google services is that desperately needed for you then I would suggest sticking to Android. Google does not have any current plans whatsoever to provide apps to Windows Phone, so if the offerings that MSFT comparable service has does not meet the expectations you have then you will be miserable with your phone for the foreseeable future.
    10-25-2014 09:57 PM
  17. spaulagain's Avatar
    But how can we make sure that windows 10 will work on our Lumia devices .. WP 8 didn't work on WP 7.x so we can't be sure
    Do you have any idea why 7.x didn't upgrade to 8? It's because it was on a completely different OS kernel. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are built on the same kernel as Windows 10. Microsoft has pretty much confirmed that all existing devices will support Windows 10.

    They've also said Windows 10 will run on Internet of Things like watches which could/would have less power than a Lumia 520.
    10-26-2014 03:24 AM
  18. spaulagain's Avatar
    I have YouTube on my Lumia 1020, as well as on my two Android phones. Similarly, I have OneDrive on the Androids, as well as on the 1020.
    You don't have YouTube on your 1020. You have a 3rd party app, or the web browser. And can you get any other Google services like Google Drive on your phone? No. Meanwhile, you can all the MS services on Android and WP.

    Google is the one being the **** here.
    10-26-2014 03:26 AM
  19. belodion's Avatar
    You don't have YouTube on your 1020. You have a 3rd party app, or the web browser. And can you get any other Google services like Google Drive on your phone? No. Meanwhile, you can all the MS services on Androids and WP.

    Google is the one being the **** here.
    Now that I look closely, there are small differences between the app on my Androids and that on my 1020. Also I can't find any YouTube version info in the 1020 app, as I can do easily in the Android app settings.
    10-26-2014 09:42 AM
  20. jaspreet Atwa1's Avatar
    It won't be long before Windows has enough user share that Google will have to write apps for windows. Have used both Windows and android. Windows is much superior and well thought. It will win the war
    10-26-2014 10:52 AM
  21. spaulagain's Avatar
    Now that I look closely, there are small differences between the app on my Androids and that on my 1020. Also I can't find any YouTube version info in the 1020 app, as I can do easily in the Android app settings.
    The YouTube "app" on Windows Phone is just a browser wrapper. It is literally just the website. Which is why I just pin the website to my home screen instead.
    Laura Knotek and belodion like this.
    10-26-2014 11:46 AM
  22. mlm1950's Avatar
    So, why don't we start a class action suit against Google?
    Lawl.
    10-26-2014 12:44 PM
  23. stephen_az's Avatar
    So, why don't we start a class action suit against Google?
    Because there are no grounds for any litigation. A lot of people seem to have really nave ideas about what is actionable vis a vis class action suits. Companies are not obligated to provide applications for competing platforms. If they were, every Linux or Mac user would have had any number of companies that make Windows software in court since the early 1990s.
    10-26-2014 12:44 PM
  24. Mike Gibson's Avatar
    Do you have any idea why 7.x didn't upgrade to 8? It's because it was on a completely different OS kernel. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are built on the same kernel as Windows 10. Microsoft has pretty much confirmed that all existing devices will support Windows 10.
    Using a "completely different kernel" doesn't mean anything in terms of backwards compatibility with hardware (e.g. you can run Win95, WinNT, and Linux on the same computer with no problem). Either the WP7 hardware was lacking a specific feature MSFT wanted to use in WP8 ... or the WP7 hardware was simply too low spec'd to give acceptable performance in WP8.
    10-26-2014 12:56 PM
  25. spaulagain's Avatar
    Using a "completely different kernel" doesn't mean anything in terms of backwards compatibility with hardware (e.g. you can run Win95, WinNT, and Linux on the same computer with no problem). Either the WP7 hardware was lacking a specific feature MSFT wanted to use in WP8 ... or the WP7 hardware was simply too low spec'd to give acceptable performance in WP8.
    Just because you can, doesn't mean it's easy. Especially when you are talking smartphones with low specs, carrier dependencies, and other variables the leave room for many errors.

    Microsoft took the safer route of starting fresh. It burned a few people, but wp7 market share was pretty insignificant. I was a WP7 user from day one, and wasn't **** hurt at all by upgrade issue.

    WP8 -> W10 is a different story. MS can't break that.
    Laura Knotek and jmshub like this.
    10-26-2014 03:15 PM
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