12-29-2014 05:20 PM
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  1. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Microsoft has made everything else better for them, I'm sure they'll soon announce Glance and Lumia Denim for iPhone and Android as well

    does people really think they will integrate Cortana on iOS and Android like it is on WP? LOL

    wake up guys, those OS already has their own integrated personal voice assistant and MS would never make Cortana better on them, the point is not making it a substitute (that would anger Apple and Google) but giving a WP taste and having more user data to improve her!

    i bet it won't be the full Cortana experience like we have on WP!
    11-11-2014 04:17 AM
  2. anon(9174535)'s Avatar
    Microsoft has made everything else better for them, I'm sure they'll soon announce Glance and Lumia Denim for iPhone and Android as well
    This called busniss man if i were on microsoft place i would do the same im here to gain money to play ego games its true but until microsoft grip a sufficient market place as supreme then you will see the awesome advantages that only exist withing microsoft as an exemple WIN10 its one unique OS EVEN IN TP ...!!! Plus having the better specs doesnt mean the best for exemple ferreri beats bunch of cars but in real life if you drive in bad road then bye bye thats what android do ...apple is well aware of that!!!
    P.S: denim is firmware not app to share with other os's
    11-11-2014 04:38 AM
  3. Mavee Shah's Avatar
    where is the camera hardware button in recent launches....? and without paying u can't hide ur pictures and videos...
    11-11-2014 04:39 AM
  4. Senrir's Avatar
    does people really think they will integrate Cortana on iOS and Android like it is on WP? LOL

    wake up guys, those OS already has their own integrated personal voice assistant and MS would never make Cortana better on them, the point is not making it a substitute (that would anger Apple and Google) but giving a WP taste and having more user data to improve her!

    i bet it won't be the full Cortana experience like we have on WP!
    Check Office for iOS, enough said. :s
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    11-11-2014 04:39 AM
  5. perbear's Avatar
    <What would be the advantage of leaving all that the iPhone has to offer?> The answer to that is a couple of months away - when the public preview of Windows 10 is out. My personal wish is that the next Windows run on all my devices as well as all current apps and that all current models can be upgraded by a simple update/install. As far as I know iPhone, iPod and Mac are separate OS and will not be able to run everything (every app) on everything. Maybe - just maybe - by developers and companies awareness of how to design the interface to their portal the race for the most apps will come to an end. I was very surprised to see that my local bank (SEB in Sweden) now offers the same design whether for smartphones, desktops or tablets to what they used to do when only iPhone and Android was offered an app and the desktop gateway was different. If the providers/companies and developers do their job and give us what we want for our daily lives then what I use to obtain the information should not be an issue. And to answer you first question - will EVERY iPhone user jump to Windows 10 when it comes out? Probably not. Should they? Probably not. But maybe a lot of them will test it and find out for themselves what it feels like and if it is something for them.
    11-11-2014 04:47 AM
  6. Jens2sig's Avatar
    There are few reasons I could never use Iphone:
    1. I'm very rough user, Iphone could never take it.
    2. The overall design of W8 phones is much cooler than Iphone
    3. The camera is far better on my windows phone, then iPhone
    4. The gps i use it alot , worldwide !
    11-11-2014 04:48 AM
  7. nessinhaw's Avatar
    Check Office for iOS, enough said. :s

    that's different lol it was the contrary here, iOS and Android didn't have Office so there were alternatives...much like using Libre Office on your desk Windows for example

    now going for personal voice assistant is different...Siri and Google Now are built and integrated into its respective OSes, MS wouldn't be crazy to make Cortana replace then nor i think it could, specially for Android, since Google has a grudge against MS lol

    and Google Now has a lot to do with Google ad revenue, since they basically collect data from searches...even if you could set Cortana to search Google, they still wouldn't like it if it had the potential to be a replacement

    and i don't even see that many people replacing their native personal voice assistant anyways...even tho Cortana is so cool lol

    but speculating will lead to nowhere...i might be wrong as you might be wrong as we all might be lol it's too soon to assume how MS will approach this

    so lets not suffer in anticipation until there's more solid ground aye?
    11-11-2014 04:59 AM
  8. TechFreak1's Avatar
    The answer to the OP's question is simple:

    If you simply just text, make calls, browse, rarely game, take random pictures or selfies & just use social media then any cheap smartphone is better then an iphone. With the savings you can go on holiday for a few days and have a cheap smartphone; however if you want a cheap smartphone plus stand out of the crowd then simply get a Lumia 520 or 620, these can be had for as low as 20 (second hand) to 50 (brand new).
    11-11-2014 05:41 AM
  9. psoham777's Avatar
    does people really think they will integrate Cortana on iOS and Android like it is on WP? LOL



    wake up guys, those OS already has their own integrated personal voice assistant and MS would never make Cortana better on them, the point is not making it a substitute (that would anger Apple and Google) but giving a WP taste and having more user data to improve her!



    i bet it won't be the full Cortana experience like we have on WP!

    See, MS has different policies, Google, apple have different.
    Google doesn't want its official apps for WP, we don't have it. MS on the other hand wants that even on other OS people should use their services, hence it provides services to other OSes. MS is being good to all(in a way), but as WP users we complain because we want those good services to be on WP only, people on other OS shouldn't get it(that's our mentality)
    If I was MS, I would be doing the same thing.
    Make all the people happy & not just WP users.
    11-11-2014 05:42 AM
  10. aximtreo's Avatar
    I would think that security would be a concern. Every few months, another security breach is found on Apple phones, I don't remember a single breach on WP. I'm sure there are some but I haven't heard of them.

    That would concern me a lot.
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    11-11-2014 06:48 AM
  11. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    To an iPhone? Must be something new since the last time I was using (iPhone 4s)
    No. I've been dragging and dropping to idevices since 2008, when I had a iPod classic, then a 3GS, and then a iPod touch. If we are talking strictly through iTunes l, you only have to check the box labeled "Manually Manage Music and Videos" or something of the sorts. Anytime I've owned or used one, that box is the first thing I check.
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    11-11-2014 07:21 AM
  12. kristalsoldier's Avatar
    See, MS has different policies, Google, apple have different.
    Google doesn't want its official apps for WP, we don't have it. MS on the other hand wants that even on other OS people should use their services, hence it provides services to other OSes. MS is being good to all(in a way), but as WP users we complain because we want those good services to be on WP only, people on other OS shouldn't get it(that's our mentality)
    If I was MS, I would be doing the same thing.
    Make all the people happy & not just WP users.
    Actually, that is a contradiction in terms. If WP users are unhappy then "all the people" are not happy because the former is a sub-set of the latter.

    And, anyways, I think the majority of WP users don't have a problem with MS services/ wares being available on other OSs. The problem arises when MS prioritizes their software and services for other platforms and lets their in-house platform lag - or so runs the argument.
    neo158 likes this.
    11-11-2014 07:26 AM
  13. neo158's Avatar
    Actually, that is a contradiction in terms. If WP users are unhappy then "all the people" are not happy because the former is a sub-set of the latter.

    And, anyways, I think the majority of WP users don't have a problem with MS services/ wares being available on other OSs. The problem arises when MS prioritizes their software and services for other platforms and lets their in-house platform lag - or so runs the argument.
    That's been my point all along. I have no problem with Microsoft services, Cortana aside, being on other platforms but Microsoft always seems to get their priorities wrong. Not focusing on their own platform will be the death of Windows Phone, we'll have to see what Windows 10 brings but I suspect it will be to little, too late.
    11-11-2014 08:57 AM
  14. steve_w_7's Avatar
    The answer to the OP's question is simple:

    If you simply just text, make calls, browse, rarely game, take random pictures or selfies & just use social media then any cheap smartphone is better then an iphone. With the savings you can go on holiday for a few days and have a cheap smartphone; however if you want a cheap smartphone plus stand out of the crowd then simply get a Lumia 520 or 620, these can be had for as low as 20 (second hand) to 50 (brand new).
    You nailed it! Windows Phone has set themselves up as the cheap, third option. I'm not sure if that was their plan all along, but sadly that is the perception of most people I know. If you're over 17 years old, a cheap colorful plastic phone isn't very appealing when there are alternatives.
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    11-11-2014 09:56 AM
  15. matt john2's Avatar
    If you've grown tired of Windows Phone, then sure, give the iPhone a go to break the monotony. Both platforms has its pros and cons - you still get as much with the iPhone as with a WP, maybe a bit more.

    My reasons for sticking with WP over iPhone is:

    1. iPhone is too expensive and I really don't like Apple's attitude with the pricing and the bendgate fiasco
    2. WP has a very unique and stylish design
    3. Nokia's excellent cameras
    4. Nokia's bold and durable designs
    Well as far as I'm concerned, Nokia is gone. There is no more Nokia spirit living inside the new upcoming windows phones. No more great quality products, no more " I have a Nokia ". It is now Microsoft which to be honest disappointing company, they've got the change but they keep on avoiding it. So its pretty much a goodbye to windows phone to me or most of us, AND HELLO to my long hated company APPLE.*applause 👏
    11-11-2014 10:55 AM
  16. steve_w_7's Avatar

    And, anyways, I think the majority of WP users don't have a problem with MS services/ wares being available on other OSs. The problem arises when MS prioritizes their software and services for other platforms and lets their in-house platform lag - or so runs the argument.
    I have really evolved in my thinking over the past few days regarding this. If you are deep into the Microsoft ecosystem, the fact that everything they offer is also offered on other smartphone platforms is actually quite liberating. For me, personally, this means that I no longer have to wait around for Microsoft to release a high end phone on my carrier (Tmobile). I can easily leave Windows Phone with less disruption than there would have been in the past.
    11-11-2014 11:30 AM
  17. kristalsoldier's Avatar
    I have really evolved in my thinking over the past few days regarding this. If you are deep into the Microsoft ecosystem, the fact that everything they offer is also offered on other smartphone platforms is actually quite liberating. For me, personally, this means that I no longer have to wait around for Microsoft to release a high end phone on my carrier (Tmobile). I can easily leave Windows Phone with less disruption than there would have been in the past.
    Exactly! Could not have put it better!!!!
    11-11-2014 11:42 AM
  18. techiez's Avatar
    See, MS has different policies, Google, apple have different.
    Google doesn't want its official apps for WP, we don't have it. MS on the other hand wants that even on other OS people should use their services, hence it provides services to other OSes. MS is being good to all(in a way), but as WP users we complain because we want those good services to be on WP only, people on other OS shouldn't get it(that's our mentality)
    If I was MS, I would be doing the same thing.
    Make all the people happy & not just WP users.
    WP users are frustrated coz many of MS apps are better on IOS & android, it includes lync, skype & office( as per the latest updates).
    MS is services company agreed, but WP should be prioritized, is it too much to ask, leave aside business apps such as office, lync & skype, why even age of empires is being launched on ios and android? doesnt make sense.
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    11-11-2014 11:54 AM
  19. steve_w_7's Avatar
    Go ahead and switch, its a free world afterall. Then try windows phone 10 when its already available :p
    True, it is a free world. But I think that comes back to my original question. When I switch to iPhone, what incentive would I have to come back? Will Windows Phone 10 suddenly make it impossible for me to run Microsoft Apps on my iPhone? A more realistic scenario would be, by the time a flagship WP10 phone is available -- easily 6 months from now -- I will still have my Microsoft apps, but will have a more difficult time giving up what I had gained on the other platform.
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    11-11-2014 11:55 AM
  20. realwarder's Avatar
    HERE Maps offline mapping is a bonus. Not sure if Apple provides that now.

    Integration with my desktop and tablet PCs (IE Favorites/Passwords) and Onedrive - love that camera photos upload and are available everywhere and everything is just built in.

    Windows = much less lock in. E.g. music purchased in iTunes was proprietary formats and DRM. Dislike the slow iTunes required for music/movies. Hated the fact that iMessage locks your phone number into itself.

    Nokia's did have better cameras but the new iPhone looks good too.

    It's a personal choice thing. I like the UI experience and live tiles etc. And cheaper pricing of Windows. But you have to go where you want to!
    11-11-2014 11:57 AM
  21. techiez's Avatar
    You nailed it! Windows Phone has set themselves up as the cheap, third option. I'm not sure if that was their plan all along, but sadly that is the perception of most people I know. If you're over 17 years old, a cheap colorful plastic phone isn't very appealing when there are alternatives.
    I think their low end strategy is correct one, that is the only thing that will plug the app gap, I agree many 920 & 1020 users wont have a phone to pick for their upgrade, but then if a flagship comes how many Ms would sell? a few thousands perhaps.
    L520 is the most selling WP and 535 is the perfect successor, this would help them increase the marketshare which has been stagnant since long, let them reach critical mass and devs will hv to notice it. and wait for W10, post W10 the flagship problem should be solved.
    11-11-2014 11:57 AM
  22. David Ginsburg's Avatar
    I have run into the same thought process over the last few months. I have a 521 and 925 on T-Mobile. My 521 works fine and my 925 was working until a few weeks ago. The phone wouldn't charge, then it would, then it wouldn't.

    I bought a Galaxy S5 and am now getting used to it. I might have looked for a high end WP8/WP8.1 phone but all T-Mobile offered is the 635. I use all the Microsoft services on the S5. I use the outlook.com app and can attach multiple files, not just pictures. I can reply to emails and attach files. I really dislike the interface of the S5. I haven't found a way to use the widgets to present the info on one simple screen like my 925. I also really like the way WP8.1 is consistent all throughout the operating system. You have the 3 buttons that tell you what the icons do and bring up more choices. On Android I have to hold the icon down to figure out what it does if it's not easy for me to figure out on my own.

    As much as I like my 925, I would like a phone that just does a little more. My OneDrive is great on Android, my E-Mail great through the Outlook.com app. I can even respond with different aliases which I couldn't do before.

    I kinda felt like when I was convincing my wife to give up her Palm Pre 2 and move to WP7 or Android. She wanted to do more with her phone but loved the Pre interface. I feel the same way. I want to do more with my phone, but really love the WP8.1 interface and operating system. I hope the rumors about allowing Cortana to Android are true. Google now is really good for info and functions, but Cortana would be a welcome addition that I would use. Besides the OS, it's the only thing I am missing.
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    11-11-2014 12:29 PM
  23. HeyCori's Avatar
    Roughly any advantage that WP has over the iPhone hasn't changed in the past four years. The app situation is indeed a lot better but that's about it. It's hard to judge OS features because they continually leap frog each other. The next WP update will bring a ton of new features and WP users will brag about what other phones can't do. Then Apple will release iOS* in the fall and WP users will be jealous of all the things WP can't do. Rinse and repeat. Personally, I still find live tiles far more useful and intriguing than iOS. Infact, the OS bores me pretty quickly. The WP UI continues to be one of (if not the biggest) reason I stick with WP. I've designed a nice, simple start screen with everything I need in one place. And the apps that I rarely use/need are neatly tucked away in the app list. I did the same thing with my Windows 8 tablet. It's really nice and makes the entire experience more enjoyable. And there are a few other things, like not being forced to use iTunes, but other than that, iOS continues to hold all the cards.
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    11-11-2014 12:46 PM
  24. prasath1234's Avatar
    Simple cost nothing in India iphone cost you a fortune because we don't have carrier system as in developed countries for students like me wp is great os although it lacks apps it is still good for its cost.Only if you are not a app freak you can tolerate this os .ios is out of reach for many.There are droids but most people got fed up with ads in every application nd ram specs.For android only flagship will suffice for users.Those who are in tight budget would go for WP because it is bearable in low end or mid end even after years of use.That is not case with android in low or mid end years later.
    From Windows phone
    11-11-2014 02:23 PM
  25. flapadlr's Avatar
    I took his comment to be more to the point of being required to use iTunes to sync music and podcasts and upgrade the phone.
    11-11-2014 02:38 PM
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