12-07-2014 07:29 PM
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  1. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    Nokia's first device after Microsoft is an iPad mini clone that runs Android | The Verge Nokia has came back into the device game with a Tablet. But not with Windows, with Android. (Larry Page is having a party because Nokia just put another nail into the Coffin of Microsoft). What the hell is going on up there in Redmond? Satya Nadella seems to be sleeping on the job. No way in heck would Steve Ballmer let Nokia do this To Microsoft. He would sue Nokia for Violating there deal they had in place. Keep the Nokia name on the phones and try to buy out the whole company. People ask why Microsoft is having problems in the mobile realm? This is one of many examples. Ballmer should have sued Google directly to the point that they could not run android anymore, and Microsoft could have took over and improved Android to the point that it ran smooth. But because of Paul Allen and others who wanted no more windows, but more programs for IOS, and Android. We are going to see the untimely death of a great software company and Larry Page and Sergei Brin are going to cheer Microsoft's down fall. And it is all because Satya allowed Nokia to Make a google based Android tablet.
    Nokia almost never lost a court room and I bet they won't violate the terms they had with Microsoft bluntly, Nokia is trying to keep its brand relevant until its allowed again to sell phones and then come 2016 it'll not be a has been company and will still manage to sell phones (albeit I feel they'll go the IPhone way of business)

    Satya is not asleep on the job, he's doing the right things, they're just NOT POPULAR for fans, A Nokia fan is always happier than an MS fan THAT IS A FACT. :)
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    11-18-2014 07:52 PM
  2. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    sad its more of a betrayal imho
    they could have easily released the tablet with windows 8.1 pro or atleast offered a variant or gone with ubuntu touch or firefox os or something
    by going android,itll cause a confusion in the market with two different nokias(even if one is rebranded as MS)
    Microsoft didn't take its OS seriously why would anyone release a Windows RT tablet or even a Windows tablet when the OS is a mess! They still haven't gotten Wifi to work probably on the Surface Pro 3 the company's flagship tablet. :)
    techiez likes this.
    11-18-2014 08:03 PM
  3. bilzkh's Avatar
    Just saying... It would be hilarious if Nokia licenses its name out to a Windows Phone OEM...e.g. Microsoft.
    11-18-2014 08:06 PM
  4. HeyCori's Avatar
    Wake up Microsoft you just lost Nokia to Android.
    shhhhh... no one say anything about the Nokia X.

    But seriously, I'm a bit pessimistic about this tablet. The Nokia X phones were terrible. Nokia's Android skin was one of the worst and incredibly laggy. And has anyone confirmed if the tablet can access the Google Play store? I'm worried this may sell to Nokia diehards and no one else.
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    11-18-2014 08:10 PM
  5. Jas00555's Avatar
    They still haven't gotten Wifi to work probably on the Surface Pro 3 the company's flagship tablet. :)
    Neither has Apple on their "flagship" products. Neither did Sony, Toshiba, Lenovo.... Wifi is tricky and to simply say that "they don't care" is dumb.
    11-18-2014 08:10 PM
  6. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Personally I could care less about a Nokia device as I seriously doubt this will sell that well. I am here for lumia...Nokia just happened to make it :P

    Best wishes to them though
    11-18-2014 08:23 PM
  7. Guytronic's Avatar
    Don't really think it matters. Tablets are in major downside. Not the thing to be getting into.
    Same opinion here.
    I think tablets won't see much growth in popularity if any.
    Handsets are where the real battle is.
    Vaibhav Sundaresan likes this.
    11-18-2014 08:23 PM
  8. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Same opinion here.
    I think tablets won't see much growth in popularity if any.
    Handsets are where the real battle is.
    If you read the different articles about this tablet around the web, the guy from Nokia that was interviewed alluded that a phone was possibly in the works later on, if they see any success in this tablet. He didn't come right out and say it though.

    I really don't have any doubt's that they'll design a phone.
    Sonu K and Guytronic like this.
    11-18-2014 08:52 PM
  9. muneshyne21's Avatar
    The tone of all the articles are all positive now that it is using Android...SMH
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    11-18-2014 09:06 PM
  10. trainplane's Avatar
    If you read the different articles about this tablet around the web, the guy from Nokia that was interviewed alluded that a phone was possibly in the works later on, if they see any success in this tablet. He didn't come right out and say it though.

    I really don't have any doubt's that they'll design a phone.
    They might co-design a phone with Foxconn or some other ODM in 2016 but they won't get into the manufacturing game anytime soon. It will be closer to the way Google works with ODM's for the Nexus line.

    It would be curious if they decide to go Android or Windows for their next phone though or they could do like HTC and release for both since both OSes are now free, and in fact Windows could be cheaper if they have to pay MS patent costs for Android.

    There is all sorts of irony going on here.
    11-18-2014 09:26 PM
  11. Visa Declined's Avatar
    The tone of all the articles are all positive now that it is using Android...SMH
    Well, it's the second new tablet being announced that's running Android Lollipop, the Nexus 9 was the first, and it was a let down. This Nokia tablet looks as though it will smoke Googles own offering, which is pretty bad @$$
    walterg1 likes this.
    11-18-2014 09:30 PM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I know they are no longer making hardware (They sold the hardware making stuff to MS as we all know) but what is left is a smaller company specialising in software, so now they lease the Nokia name to another hardware maker to make basic stuff that is being made all over China and other countries, I would have thought they would be better off keeping the name for the stuff they actually sell.

    The example of Bush is a good example, it used to be a well respected electronics company but now lives on in name only on cheap goods, not the best way to protect what is left of the Nokia company.

    But as said god knows why I am talking about this, it ain't Windows, it's just another device I have no interest in made by a company in China with the name of an EX phone maker stuck on it.
    That's like what happened to Eastman Kodak and Polaroid.
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    11-18-2014 09:34 PM
  13. Visa Declined's Avatar
    That's like what happened to Eastman Kodak and Polaroid.
    Nokia said that the products that use their name will have to meet strict quality guidelines. They're pretty proud of their brand, and I can't imagine they would tarnish it by endorsing crap products like Polaroid did.

    I'm curious to know if everything that uses the Nokia name, will be designed in-house by them.
    11-18-2014 09:56 PM
  14. adkrish22290's Avatar
    It's betrayal by Nokia. If by chance Nokia starts making smartphones again (but using Android) in 2016 (contrary to what they claim that they will never make one again), it's the beginning of the end for WP. Remember, WP grew in popularity, especially in India, just because of Nokia.

    Microsoft should have bought out the Nokia company in entirety, not just the hardware division. Then such things would never have happened.
    tanya shah1 and Reflexx like this.
    11-18-2014 10:17 PM
  15. Visa Declined's Avatar
    It's betrayal by Nokia. If by chance Nokia starts making smartphones again (but using Android) in 2016 (contrary to what they claim that they will never make one again)

    They wouldn't be making it, someone like Foxconn would.
    Microsoft should have bought out the Nokia company in entirety, not just the hardware division. Then such things would never have happened.

    They probably couldn't buy Nokia, it likely wasn't for sale.
    11-18-2014 10:39 PM
  16. theefman's Avatar
    Not really sure why there's so much hurt, Nokia did make a Windows tablet and it flopped, and with signs that they wanted to switch to android before the devices sale its no wonder they are now going full steam with android.

    And the cold reality is unless your Windows tablet is branded Surface it wont sell so if this was Windows it wouldn't have any impact on the market. Nokia is gone, no point crying about it, should be worried about whether Microsoft can produce a tablet OS that's more competitive than what they currently have.
    11-18-2014 10:47 PM
  17. JamesDax's Avatar
    Boy you guys will cry about anything.
    11-18-2014 10:49 PM
  18. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    I'll be blunt.

    Who gives a rip that Nokia came out with a tablet? Fact remains that Samsung dominates the entire stage when it comes to android. Even the former flagship, HTC, is struggling to build momentum. The fact that Nokia got Foxconn to build their new devices is not exactly a huge plus imo. Reentering the market riding on a what looks like an ipad mini knockoff? C'mon... I expected better. This is just stupid. Everyone but Apple have admitted the low end market is the one to be focusing on right now... a tablet is not going to attract anyone outside of Nokia brand die-hards, and deep deep down inside? They'll know it's just a pretty foxconn with a Nokia sticker.

    I'll say this. Keep awake, Microsoft. You've beaten out Blackberry. Now keep focusing on expanding the market share.
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    11-18-2014 11:02 PM
  19. Visa Declined's Avatar
    They'll know it's just a pretty foxconn with a Nokia sticker.
    It's a pretty Foxconn that was designed by Nokia, which is why the media is running headline articles about it.

    Look at the specs you get for the low price they're selling it for, it's priced about the same as a budget Lumia.
    11-18-2014 11:26 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    They probably couldn't buy Nokia, it likely wasn't for sale.
    Microsoft had no use for a network equipment company.
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    11-18-2014 11:45 PM
  21. Loco5150's Avatar
    Microsoft had no use for a network equipment company.
    Microsoft wanted much more, but Nokia wasn't selling. They sold only the crap. (talking from a business stand point). Also they made MS buy a lot of useless things to them. For this you only have to see what has happened since. All the layoffs, killing the X series. They were forced to take all that, Nokia was dictating the rules.

    Clear indications about this is also the 18 month right to use the name Nokia in smart phones. That's suspiciously short, even if there wouldn't be intention to use it in the long term. Now that Nokia had the rest of the rights for the name, even in tablets, Microsoft had to rush all the SoMe accounts to Lumia etc pages, because an Android tablet came out so quickly.

    Seriously, Microsoft paid 7bn for a world of trouble. Maybe the PureView division something to desire, but I doubt that could have been taken out of the deal.
    tanya shah1 likes this.
    11-19-2014 12:15 AM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    A Nokia fan is always happier than an MS fan THAT IS A FACT. :)
    I doubt if most people in North America know much about Nokia. Since they didn't have much presence here in the smartphone market, most people here just remember some old feature phone from 10 years ago that was either a Nokia or a Motorola. The Motorola name was and still is more well-known in the US.
    techiez, nohra and jmshub like this.
    11-19-2014 12:24 AM
  23. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Microsoft had no use for a network equipment company.
    They had no use for HERE Maps? or the Nokia brand name?

    All of it is debatable, but I'm firmly in the camp that believes that the Nokia name meant something to a lot of people. I have fond memories of past Nokia devices I've owned.
    techiez, tanya shah1 and Sonu K like this.
    11-19-2014 12:30 AM
  24. iamtim's Avatar
    It's betrayal by Nokia.
    Drama much? This is not, in any way, a betrayal.
    Sonu K likes this.
    11-19-2014 12:49 AM
  25. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    They had no use for HERE Maps? or the Nokia brand name?

    All of it is debatable, but I'm firmly in the camp that believes that the Nokia name meant something to a lot of people. I have fond memories of past Nokia devices I've owned.
    Not so much in the US. I used Nokia smartphones back in 2006, and nobody I knew had any clue what they were. BlackBerry and Palm were the popular smartphones back then.
    nohra likes this.
    11-19-2014 12:51 AM
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