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  1. Stiv X's Avatar
    Microsoft Windows phone market share has decreased some, but that doesn't mean they aren't selling any. Microsoft is making a profit. Therefore they can continue to sell phones. WP is not dead.
    03-05-2015 05:01 PM
  2. peachy001's Avatar
    I think that MS should avoid too much Flagship talk for the next couple of months. Let people keep playing with W10 preview. Within the next 30 days there will be a new build out for that, and it will likely hit more phones. The 640 series hit in April, GDR 2 hits end of March for preview folks. June, momentum builds as we may gave had 3 solid W10 insider builds out. end of June to end of July the device tumours start to trickle out.

    I'm interested to know if they have a pre-iPhone or post iPhone release as their target. Presumably before. Hopefully they see sense and only announce the devices when they have a definite short wait for shipping. Apple do that bit very well.
    03-05-2015 05:03 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    There is a hellofadifference between releasing a flagship phone with the latest stable version of the current os as opposed to a alpha build which is what you would get with Windows 10. This would cause nothing but trouble they don't need. Releasing a Windows 10 version now would be a disaster for the general public.

    Microsoft needs to release the latest version of Windows 8.2 with full Cortana support for the devices that can run it and have in place a Flagship phone that can utilize Windows 10 to the fullest now...

    It's ludicrous to have to take a back seat to every other platform just because of the market share.

    If they don't have the balls to compete head to head with them they should get the hell out of the race.

    Cry me a river then build a bridge and get over it

    That's the whole point of the Tech Preview, to work out the bugs and not release a dud later on. Microsoft is not the only one seeing this logic, other OEMs are holding back until 10 is ready for a retail release. What do you think would happen to sales of "WP 8.2" devices if 10 were released over the summer? Tumbleweeds, that's what. The iPhone 5S is still available for sale, how do you think they're doing?

    Microsoft is not going to cannibalize sales of a recent phone with W10 models for the sake of a few "loyal" customers that are constantly threatening to move on to another platform if they don't get a new flagship phone. I wouldn't want them as customers either.
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    03-05-2015 05:50 PM
  4. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    That's the whole point of the Tech Preview, to work out the bugs and not release a dud later on. Microsoft is not the only one seeing this logic, other OEMs are holding back until 10 is ready for a retail release. What do you think would happen to sales of "WP 8.2" devices if 10 were released over the summer? Tumbleweeds, that's what. The iPhone 5S is still available for sale, how do you think they're doing?

    Microsoft is not going to cannibalize sales of a recent phone with W10 models for the sake of a few "loyal" customers that are constantly threatening to move on to another platform if they don't get a new flagship phone. I wouldn't want them as customers either.
    The tech preview is NOT for the general publics consumption. It is Not a substitute for the latest update to Windows 8.2 and waiting for a fall release on a unproven os for the phone is stupid excuse to keep from releasing a flagship phone now.

    Wait for the next upgrade wait for this... Wait for that... That is always the same lameass answer that is always given and it's a frigging crock of crap.

    It's time they crap or get off the pot.
    03-05-2015 06:15 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The tech preview is NOT for the general publics consumption.
    I think I've said that twice now. I'll repeat one more time, Microsoft is not going to release any new flagship ahead of the W10 release. That would be a gross dereliction of their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. Whether you consider it a lameass excuse or not is irrelevant. A new model requires tooling. Tooling requires a monetary commitment. Tooling requires modification of an existing assembly line, which requires time and money. To have to re-tool in a few months for yet another new model is insane if the only reason is to satisfy the same whining disloyal customers I mentioned earlier.

    It's time to move on or this thread will meet its demise.
    03-05-2015 06:33 PM
  6. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I think I've said that twice now. I'll repeat one more time, Microsoft is not going to release any new flagship ahead of the W10 release. That would be a gross dereliction of their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. Whether you consider it a lameass excuse or not is irrelevant. A new model requires tooling. Tooling requires a monetary commitment. Tooling requires modification of an existing assembly line, which requires time and money. To have to re-tool in a few months for yet another new model is insane if the only reason is to satisfy the same whining disloyal customers I mentioned earlier.

    It's time to move on or this thread will meet its demise.
    You have said..... Really.... And since you have said this that this is the final word on the subject?

    I don't think so.

    A gross dereliction of their responsibilities to the shareholders? What about their gross dereliction to their customers here in the USA?

    You think they only have 1 assembly line like a auto maker has that they have to retool to build a phone? That's funny.

    Yes I do believe it is a lameass excuse they are using just as they always have used. Microsoft has elected to wait till later and has missed a golden opportunity to not only build interest in it's platform but has given a logical excuse to those who are wanting a high end phone to upgrade to a different camp to get one now.

    Yes I firmly believe that this decision is very lame and downright stupid even though you are so eager to give them a free pass to do this.

    With attitudes like this it's no wonder why they are not doing well here.
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    03-05-2015 06:58 PM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I don't think so.
    It is if I say so. Move on, I'm done arguing.
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    03-05-2015 07:49 PM
  8. theefman's Avatar
    Perhaps we should, for now, agree to disagree, since you obviously don't have the ability to see what is planned for the long term, being so blinded by thinking same past mistakes are being made that you cannot see the future vision of Microsoft.


    So its on to insults now? Funny how I've disagreed with others but they didn't feel the same need to question my "ability to see what is planned". Thanks, I'll continue discussing with others who can disagree while still maintaining a civil tone.
    03-05-2015 07:50 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Microsoft has confirmed there will be no new flagship phones prior to the release of Windows 10. This discussion has reached the point of diminishing returns.
    rhapdog likes this.
    03-05-2015 07:54 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Next!
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    03-05-2015 07:56 PM
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