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  1. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I believe the difference has more to do with timing. Android was in its infancy when it only had the iPhone as direct competition, and the iPhone at the time was fledgling. Microsoft's competition today is very mature, and have been setting the standard in the industry for many years now.
    I agree. It also helped here in the US that the iPhone was an AT&T exclusive. Android was the alternative for customers who had other carriers.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
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    04-24-2015 08:53 AM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I agree. It also helped here in the US that the iPhone was an AT&T exclusive. Android was the alternative for customers who had other carriers.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    Microsoft had a beast of a phone at the time (HD2) to do serious battle with Android and iPhone but it was stuck on T-Mobile.
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    04-24-2015 09:06 AM
  3. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Microsoft had a beast of a phone at the time (HD2) to do serious battle with Android and iPhone but it was stuck on T-Mobile.
    Verizon also ran a fantastic marketing campaign for Android. I never heard of the HTC Dream on T-Mobile until I joined the forums, but I still remember Verizon's original Droid commercials on TV.

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    04-24-2015 09:10 AM
  4. Bai's Avatar
    Not frustrated, don't care about flagship as I always buy my phone and I am not paying $700 for it(but I don't want a 1030). I have all the app I needed, I only use 10 of them really.
    But I do want MS to make WP dockable, **** me off everytime when people txt me a web link and I have to save it on onedrive or email it to myself in order to view it on big screen. If it is dockable it will make my life a lot easier.
    04-24-2015 03:26 PM
  5. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    Microsoft had a beast of a phone at the time (HD2) to do serious battle with Android and iPhone but it was stuck on T-Mobile.
    I never will understand why Microsoft didn't put pressure on HTC to keep the HD2 alive. I know HTC tried to keep the HD line going with the HD7, but it was never as good as the HD2.
    The Hackers/Rom Builders/Tech Heads at XDA had a field day with the device. Any number of WinMo 6.5 roms to WP7 Droid ICS all the way up to Windows RT.
    The HD2 was such a beast, Microsoft should have done with that model what they have done with Nokia Polycarb bodies, the HD2 would have been an awesome Surface Mobile.
    04-26-2015 05:47 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I never will understand why Microsoft didn't put pressure on HTC to keep the HD2 alive.
    I don't know that it was HTC who buried the Leo. From what I've read, Microsoft was already hellbent on WP7. In my humblest opinion, WM6.5.3 was awesome on the Leo and eschewing the stylus showed that with the right skin, WinMo was more than a match for iOS and Android. There were only 3 WinMo devices that ran on the 1gHz Hummingbird (LG Fathom & ExPO were the others) and there was none of the freezing and resets like on previous devices. Oh well, water under the bridge I guess.
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    04-26-2015 07:19 PM
  7. Dr_8820's Avatar
    Ahhh...the Leo... Had the TP2(rhodium) and the Leo at the same time...the 1ghz Snapdragon made all the difference.

    Edit: TMo killed the Leo, they got it 6 months after Europe and then pushed the HD7.
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    04-26-2015 07:37 PM
  8. steve_w_7's Avatar
    I am "all in" with Microsoft and was as frustrated as you are -- until I got the iPhone 6 plus. Now I have the best of both worlds. The complete suite of Microsoft apps and a killer phone. I no longer have that uneasy feeling in my stomach. You know, that feeling in your gut that things are never really going to get better with Windows Phone. You can be an iPhone user and a Microsoft fan as well!
    Laura Knotek, boxa72, tgp and 2 others like this.
    04-26-2015 08:41 PM
  9. ajayden's Avatar
    Oh cool. I had the TP2, HD2 and the Dopod 838. All wonderful phones with no competition those days.
    Posted on Lumia 1520 via Taptalk
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    04-26-2015 09:58 PM
  10. Evronian's Avatar
    I never will understand why Microsoft didn't put pressure on HTC to keep the HD2 alive.
    You guys made me curious about this phone, believe it or not I didn't even know it existed. At that time I had a Motorola Milestone (European version of the Droid) with Android 2.1 and I just found a video on YouTube with a comparison between the Milestone and the HD2. The HTC looked great, bigger screen, better camera, better UI.. Pretty sure I would have chosen that over the Milestone.. But it's difficult to know a product if there's no marketing at all..
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    04-27-2015 06:54 AM
  11. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    You guys made me curious about this phone, believe it or not I didn't even know it existed. At that time I had a Motorola Milestone (European version of the Droid) with Android 2.1 and I just found a video on YouTube with a comparison between the Milestone and the HD2. The HTC looked great, bigger screen, better camera, better UI.. Pretty sure I would have chosen that over the Milestone.. But it's difficult to know a product if there's no marketing at all..
    Now imagine no limits on what you could do with that HD2....wake up and load WinMo 6.5......going out with friends Later, load Android ICS rom and off you go. Tomorrow you feel like Windows Phone 7 or 7.5. Or feeling real adventurous run a dual boot system...one from SD card. The hackers over at XDA did all sorts of wonderful stuff.
    The Dark Forces Team took it to the extreme......

    What a shock when this happened
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    04-27-2015 10:00 AM
  12. runamuck83's Avatar
    Being a Windows Phone fan is like watching your best friend struggling with a life threatening disease. They're fighting and the doctors are trying all sorts of medications, but the indications all keep looking worse and worse.... and you start to ask the question... "How much longer does my friend have to live?"

    Yea, upsetting
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    04-27-2015 08:06 PM
  13. Mike Majeski's Avatar
    Tough times...my GF gets a better Microsoft experience on her Note 4. Stylus with One Note and better looking apps.
    Evronian and Ian_Superfly like this.
    04-27-2015 09:27 PM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    "How much longer does my friend have to live?"
    Your buddy doesn't have health insurance like Microsoft. Windows is a long way from Woodlawn Cemetery. BlackBerry's in worse shape and they still have a heartbeat.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    04-27-2015 09:35 PM
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