07-12-2015 05:06 PM
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  1. Peter Rundqvist's Avatar
    Hi,
    Does anybody know if MS have some kind of Apple TV competitor in the works?
    07-06-2015 05:34 AM
  2. realwarder's Avatar
    There are so many boxes like that. Some have succeeded like Roku and some have failed like Google TV.

    The Miracast type of device that lets you broadcast anything from your phone or PC is the current cheap and flexible offering.

    Or you have the Xbox One it is a nice integrated media player and even TV channel manager. And also has Netflix etc. on it.
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    07-06-2015 05:43 AM
  3. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    What features, exactly, are you looking for? How do you want to use it? Xbox 360s have a huge selection of Apps, including YouTube, Vimeo, Crackle, Amazon, HBO GO,, CinemaNow, Hulu, Netflix, IheartRadio, ESPN and too many others to mention. You can cast to it and there is a OneDrive app and BING search. If you want live over the air (OTA) and/or Cable TV, even copy protected (DRM) cable TV (HBO, Showtime ...) just add Windows Media Center with a tuner card (Ceton XfiniTV or Silicondust) and you'll also have multiple tuners and unlimited DVR in a system that can be expanded to a whole house audio/visual media system by just adding Xbox 360s to each TV.
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 07-06-2015 at 08:56 AM.
    07-06-2015 07:09 AM
  4. LockOnTech's Avatar
    I know microsoft has a wireless display adapter, perhaps you may give that a try. I have a chromecast, the only thing I was able to do is use tubecast to mirror youtube to chromecast.
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    07-06-2015 07:48 AM
  5. Peter Rundqvist's Avatar
    Yeah - I know about the Media Center stuff, but, do they plan to release something that is plug-and-playable as the ATV? I would love it!
    07-06-2015 03:27 PM
  6. Blacklac's Avatar
    It would be dead in the water, unless it had some MAJOR gimmick/feature. Roku and Fire TV are too advanced and have too many content deals. Maybe Cortana could be a draw, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple TV brought Siri to the next Generation update. I still don't think Cortana would be enough.

    This is just my opinion. This is an area where you don't want a ton of competitors. Just enough to keep innovation coming. The more choices content providers have to make special deals with and exclusive content, just hurts the consumer. You don't want to have to buy +3 boxes just to get all the content you want.

    Just buy a Roku and/or Fire TV. They are dirt cheap at entry level. No waiting for the platform to grow, or hope one day it will... Casting/mirroring works fine on both, as well.

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    07-06-2015 03:54 PM
  7. LockOnTech's Avatar
    It would be dead in the water, unless it had some MAJOR gimmick/feature. Roku and Fire TV are too advanced and have too many content deals. Maybe Cortana could be a draw, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple TV brought Siri to the next Generation update. I still don't think Cortana would be enough.

    This is just my opinion. This is an area where you don't want a ton of competitors. Just enough to keep innovation coming. The more choices content providers have to make special deals with and exclusive content, just hurts the consumer. You don't want to have to buy +3 boxes just to get all the content you want.

    Just buy a Roku and/or Fire TV. They are dirt cheap at entry level. No waiting for the platform to grow, or hope one day it will... Casting/mirroring works fine on both, as well.

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    Just as with any other device, no matter where you go; you may run into specific exclusive services or channels, can't be helped.
    07-06-2015 05:56 PM
  8. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Moved to appropriate forum...

    As per this advice: http://forums.windowscentral.com/ask...ion-forum.html WC members are free to post in all areas of the board. Please use Ask a Question only for time critical help issues that affect the immediate functionality of your device.
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    07-06-2015 06:07 PM
  9. Don Geronimo's Avatar
    I second the opinion of others here and recommend the Roku Streaming Stick, or the Amazon Fire TV Stick, depending on the services you use to consume. At 35$ for the Roku you'd get Miracast support you can use to cast Windows devices to your TV, plus use your streaming media services, with the exception of Xbox Music (Groove Music), Xbox Video (Movies & TV), or any of Apple's services.

    Reason being, there is no Microsoft-made device like the Apple TV that can compete in its price point. The Xbox One can certainly fit the bill, but at 349$ it's not on the same price tier.
    07-06-2015 06:36 PM
  10. Blacklac's Avatar
    Just as with any other device, no matter where you go; you may run into specific exclusive services or channels, can't be helped.
    Sure, but would you rather have them spread across 2-3 platforms or 4-6?

    Roku, Fire TV and Apple TV cover all we really need for streaming set top devices, ATM. The point of these devices is to make life convenient and "cut the cord" and possibly save a few $ vs cable. Having to buy 3-4 devices would make alot of people jaded and potentially push people back to cable subscriptions. At ~$80-100 a pop, buying one or two is fine. Buying 3 or 4 is starting to become expensive. Let's not forget, alot of people will upgrade the hardware every couple years.

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    07-06-2015 09:41 PM
  11. muneshyne21's Avatar
    How about an intel pc stick with plex on it or something? Does that count?
    Ed Boland likes this.
    07-06-2015 09:47 PM
  12. Ed Boland's Avatar
    How about an intel pc stick with plex on it or something? Does that count?
    That's what I use! Well, PLEX anyway.. that's the beauty of PLEX, it works and is available on just about anything.

    The Roku box is a good suggestion. Also, I've heard good things about the WD Live boxes. (Western Digital brand media server/TV box)
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    07-06-2015 10:17 PM
  13. rambo47's Avatar
    The short answer is that no, Microsoft does not have anything like the Apple TV. Nor are there any (known) plans for such a device.
    07-06-2015 11:02 PM
  14. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I started with a Roku 2 XD... Went to a Sony NSZ-GX7 Google TV box... Now I have a Sony smart Blu Ray Player. I feel this last choice is about right. It streams and it will also play my disks at a reasonable price. Free streams are worth what you pay for them... Media server (like Plex) is nicer, but a lot of work to keep refreshed with content and the paid streams are over-priced for what they actually offer since you can't find all of your tastes at one outlet.

    At the price point and functionality of this tech, I'm surprised at how many players are trying to get in. IMHO it is a pretty saturated market and Microsoft already has enough ways to stream that they don't need a stick or a set top box. It would be a waste of R&D for them.
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    07-06-2015 11:11 PM
  15. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    ... Media server (like Plex) is nicer, but a lot of work to keep refreshed with content ...
    May I ask, what is "the work" of keeping Plex refreshed with content? The reason I ask, is that I always hear about Plex and other media center software, but I use Windows Media Center and there isn't any work to refresh the content on WMC. I just set the TV shows/series and movies (plus HBO, ShowTime, ...) to record, on the guide, and they do. Just curious about Plex.
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 07-07-2015 at 08:32 AM.
    07-07-2015 08:22 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The way I used Plex was to enable other devices on my home network to view whatever was in a "Share" folder. Therefore the content in the folder was only what I placed there. I never "subscribed" to any content. I curated the folder myself ripping DVD's from my collection and placing them there in a streamable format.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=oHPcy9Lg
    07-07-2015 09:58 AM
  17. Qtweeder's Avatar
    popcorn time playing to xbox ones dlna ;)
    07-07-2015 01:47 PM
  18. michail71's Avatar
    The Miracast type of device that lets you broadcast anything from your phone or PC is the current cheap and flexible offering.

    Or you have the Xbox One it is a nice integrated media player and even TV channel manager. And also has Netflix etc. on it.
    Sadly Miracast is nowhere near in the same class. It's archaic and not terribly useful compared to apple TV. You can't even stream audio from a phone to it. As soon as the lockscreen kicks in the Miracast connection is terminated and must be completely repaired.

    I've never tried an Xbox One but I have my doubts it would give the same experience. Apple TV allows audio and video on your phone to treat the apple TV as an independent system device, which is a very powerful thing as it's not app dependent.

    Apple must hold some patents because everything else I've tried sucks in comparison. Chromecast comes in a distant 2nd place if you have an android phone.

    I've got iPhone users and android users in my house. I just can't do the things they can as far as media streaming and sharing.
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    07-07-2015 03:51 PM
  19. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    I recently bought an HP Stream Mini, and I have to say that it's a pretty cool little device. My wife and I use it mainly as a Netflix portal. I also installed all of my Nintendo and Super Nintendo ROMs on it and, with my Xbox controller, revisit my youth every once in a while. ha ha :)
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    07-07-2015 04:03 PM
  20. Jack Neill's Avatar
    I have seriously considered that Mini for that purpose, I would love to play Mario cart 64 again...
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    07-07-2015 09:10 PM
  21. naeem151287's Avatar
    IMO, this is probably the best thing you can get for your TV - Archos' Windows 10 device is the cheapest PC on a stick yet | PCWorld
    07-07-2015 09:15 PM
  22. jmshub's Avatar
    I have a Roku, I think it's a 3, but I'm not sure. It does a great job of streaming web, Netflix, Amazon video, Youtube, etc. I wish it did a better job with streaming media on my LAN, but for the price, I'm happy with it.
    07-07-2015 09:26 PM
  23. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    I have seriously considered that Mini for that purpose, I would love to play Mario cart 64 again...
    Mario Cart, Metroid, Punch Out...ha ha :)
    07-07-2015 09:30 PM
  24. michail71's Avatar
    IMO, this is probably the best thing you can get for your TV - Archos' Windows 10 device is the cheapest PC on a stick yet | PCWorld
    That is promising but I don't know if the software would be there yet to give an apple tv experience. Even then apple and android phones would still be able to work better with it.
    07-08-2015 10:28 AM
  25. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Sadly Miracast is nowhere near in the same class. It's archaic and not terribly useful compared to apple TV. You can't even stream audio from a phone to it. As soon as the lockscreen kicks in the Miracast connection is terminated and must be completely repaired.

    I've never tried an Xbox One but I have my doubts it would give the same experience. Apple TV allows audio and video on your phone to treat the apple TV as an independent system device, which is a very powerful thing as it's not app dependent.

    Apple must hold some patents because everything else I've tried sucks in comparison. Chromecast comes in a distant 2nd place if you have an android phone.

    I've got iPhone users and android users in my house. I just can't do the things they can as far as media streaming and sharing.


    FWIW my Sony BDP-S3200 Smart Blu-Ray box has no problems interacting with anything else on my home's WiFi network, including my Windows Phone. I can select screen mirroring on the box, open Project My Screen on my 1520 and they connect easily over WiFi. I then can project everything on my phone to my TV via the box. Including games/video/audio/apps/settings/photos/even active camera... Everything shows up.

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    That's a shot of Camera360 Sight creating an infinite loop on the TV when aimed at it...

    It's NOT an Apple exclusive for things to just work.
    Mach_E likes this.
    07-08-2015 03:33 PM
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