12-11-2015 12:41 PM
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  1. 7a2eer's Avatar
    You are dead wrong. You see, we keep every photo and home video we ever record. Between the AWESOME results of the LUMIA 1020 (which both my wife and I have and take tons of pictures with) and the ultra-high capable dedicated camera and our 4k HD video camera (we do community theater and other public performances, we eat up a LOT of storage. Add to that our ever-growing music collection (all LEGAL), and 1TB is easily a cap that can be busted. We aren't doing anything wrong. We want our media accessible anytime, anywhere.
    I did not consider that there might exist a media hoarder of your magnitude!
    *joking* My apologies, shouldn't have made such broad assumptions.

    P.S: If I were a pessimist I'd argue that 4k is redundant and your hoarding is a data center's worst nightmare :P
    11-05-2015 09:04 PM
  2. jbestman's Avatar
    I see a lot of people defending MS here, which is a bit surprising.
    You clearly have not been on this site long. Microsoft can ask every current and past Windows Phone users to send in a retroactive fee of $500 each for each phone owned and you will still find people that will justify and excuse it.

    I just ignore them.

    Funny thing is this, if Microsoft reverses course due to all the outrage, these same people will come in here rejoicing. Conveniently forgetting that if everyone was an apologist like they are, we would all pay $700 for a Lumia 530 that would have 2gb of storage, no online backup and a reoccurring $20 access fee. Hey, Microsoft is a business, in it to make money.... so let's accept anything they decide to do to us with gratitude.
    theefman likes this.
    11-05-2015 09:30 PM
  3. wrm1's Avatar
    That and they do begin using it and grow accustomed to full OS integration with the cache stored on that high capacity sd card, then Microsoft destroys the whole thing by not only killing the ability to view all folders, but, the person can't cache the offline files on their SD Card anymore. The cache has to eat into the 32 GB on my hard drive rather than the 128 on my SD. Making storing music on OneDrive a very dumb option. And forcing that person to now go on the website to find documents instead of looking at the dang placeholders. Stupid stuff.
    11-05-2015 10:13 PM
  4. kimigayo's Avatar
    You honestly believe that they are anti-consumer because you pulled one quote about mobile and the cloud? Dear lord, if you don't like their practices, then feel free to go to a competitor and see how consumer friendly Apple and Google are... \_(ツ)_/
    11-06-2015 12:52 PM
  5. kimigayo's Avatar
    "because Microsoft said it was the one place for everything in our lives. This was clearly a lie. And it's not HOARDING. The IDEA is to be able to access ALL our content from WHEREVER using WHATEVER device. Well, that's no longer true."

    Yes, one drive is plenty for most consumers. If you are going to take an HD video of your entire life and upload it, then that's up to you, but expect to pay for that convenience and storage. Seems amazing that people are going to complain because they aren't getting enough for free or cheap. Convenience comes at a price, especially when you want instant access to as much as you do "wherever" and "whatever"...
    Spectrum90 likes this.
    11-06-2015 12:58 PM
  6. kangeles's Avatar
    Just silly. Absolutely silly. They have been anything but anti-consumer over the past few years. You know what I loathe most about the new Microsoft as of late? Its customers. That we support the same platform and or ecosystem, must mean we have something in common. That scares me because people are whine so dang much and are not happy about anything. You could be offered free money and you'd complain about how much or the denomination tendered.
    Harrie-S and habanero61 like this.
    11-06-2015 10:57 PM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    Its customers. That we support the same platform and or ecosystem, must mean we have something in common. That scares me because people are whine so dang much and are not happy about anything. You could be offered free money and you'd complain about how much or the denomination tendered.
    Here one thing that is prevalent on this forum that I do not understand. Why do Microsoft fans think it has to be all or none? It is as simple as can be nowadays to mix and match. I do not support Microsoft, I do not support Apple, and I do not support Google, at least not support them in the way I think you mean it. I use Windows, OS X, Android, Chrome OS, Linux, iOS, and WP. I have an HP laptop, a Macbook, and a Chromebook. I use Lumia, Nexus, iPhone, and iPad devices. I use OneDrive, Google Drive, and Dropbox. I use Office and Google Docs. I use Cortana, Google Now, and Siri.

    The so called cloud makes integration automatic, even between ecosystems. I do not suffer from fragmentation, and I have more features available to me than anyone who narrows it down to one ecosystem. I do of course have my primary choice for each department, but the others are available to step in if needed.

    In short, there is little to no reason to be all in with, or "support", one of the big three. Pick and choose what works for you.
    raycpl, Harrie-S, libra89 and 3 others like this.
    11-07-2015 08:28 AM
  8. ajj3085's Avatar
    Manage the NAS? You plug it and set it up. To Back it up, you simply add a 2nd hard drive (or more depending on how many TBs you need.) No need to rinse and repeat.
    I have a nas. It doesn't work like that. Sometimes it disappears, requiring a reboot. A drive can fail, requiring replacement. And a single disk is not a backup strategy. Unless you don't care about the data on it.
    11-07-2015 01:39 PM
  9. ajj3085's Avatar
    Do you use over 1TB on your personal cloud? XD
    Yes, and its all legal.
    11-07-2015 01:43 PM
  10. elindalyne's Avatar
    Yes, and its all legal.
    So split it up between multiple accounts.
    11-07-2015 02:33 PM
  11. 7a2eer's Avatar
    So split it up between multiple accounts.
    Meh ~_~
    That's not a PITA at all is it? xD
    xandros9 likes this.
    11-08-2015 09:38 PM
  12. 7a2eer's Avatar
    MEGA gives 50GB for free and the site is very minimalistic. They have an app on WP, Android, iOS, and even BB10. Additionally there are browser extensions for Firefox. Might be viable depending on who was affected.

    https://mega.nz
    libra89 and xandros9 like this.
    11-08-2015 09:44 PM
  13. MikeX74's Avatar
    Here one thing that is prevalent on this forum that I do not understand. Why do Microsoft fans think it has to be all or none? It is as simple as can be nowadays to mix and match. I do not support Microsoft, I do not support Apple, and I do not support Google, at least not support them in the way I think you mean it. I use Windows, OS X, Android, Chrome OS, Linux, iOS, and WP. I have an HP laptop, a Macbook, and a Chromebook. I use Lumia, Nexus, iPhone, and iPad devices. I use OneDrive, Google Drive, and Dropbox. I use Office and Google Docs. I use Cortana, Google Now, and Siri.

    The so called cloud makes integration automatic, even between ecosystems. I do not suffer from fragmentation, and I have more features available to me than anyone who narrows it down to one ecosystem. I do of course have my primary choice for each department, but the others are available to step in if needed.

    In short, there is little to no reason to be all in with, or "support", one of the big three. Pick and choose what works for you.
    It's a fanboy thing. It's easier for some to pick a tribe and go all-in than to pick and choose from different ecosystems, or to even appreciate what others offer.
    tgp likes this.
    11-14-2015 03:48 PM
  14. CygnusOrion's Avatar
    So everyone is over their little OneDrive tantrum?
    7a2eer likes this.
    11-16-2015 10:26 PM
  15. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    So everyone is over their little OneDrive tantrum?
    Lol I hope so.
    libra89 likes this.
    11-23-2015 11:52 PM
  16. HeyCori's Avatar
    So everyone is over their little OneDrive tantrum?
    Nope, but I'll keep using OneDrive until the free 1-year of Office 365 kicks and then I'll decide where to go from there.
    jlzimmerman likes this.
    11-24-2015 03:17 PM
  17. xandros9's Avatar
    So everyone is over their little OneDrive tantrum?
    No
    NBrookus likes this.
    11-24-2015 04:44 PM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    So everyone is over their little OneDrive tantrum?
    Apparently not. I still have my 30 gigs and it's about 29 gigs too many. I learned my lesson about trusting my files to a company (HP and webOS).
    libra89, Laura Knotek and xandros9 like this.
    11-24-2015 04:55 PM
  19. NBrookus's Avatar
    Do you use over 1TB on your personal cloud? XD
    I do, and I don't even have my music and video files up there. I'm a photographer and artist. I don't even have more than the past 2 years of files on OneDrive. The RAW files coming out of a modern full frame camera are big, and so are many PSD files.

    YOUR use case is not everyone's use case.

    I was surprised and delighted when they announced free unlimited storage even though I wasn't adverse to paying. I was less delighted when Windows 10 totally gimped the OneDrive integration and didn't have the (very useful) OneDrive app. If there was a viable replacement for placeholders coming -- as they promised -- I think we would have heard some details by now. So I'm shopping for an alternate single solution now. (As yes, I also have off-site backups and a personal NAS. Instant cloud backups are a really useful feature to have.)

    The Office 365 subscription is a dirt cheap way to get 1TB of storage, but at $240/year for the next 1TB in 200MB increments, color me unimpressed. And even that level of storage is going away in about a month or two.

    For a while I was moving in the direction of whole hog MS fangirl rocking my WP, Surface Pro 3, OneDrive reliance and Band. This weaselly backpedalling on OneDrive storage broke a level of trust they have built up, and pissed off exactly the kind of customer they should want to keep.
    xandros9 likes this.
    11-28-2015 07:53 AM
  20. Bobvfr's Avatar
    For a while I was moving in the direction of whole hog MS fangirl rocking my WP, Surface Pro 3, OneDrive reliance and Band. This weaselly backpedalling on OneDrive storage broke a level of trust they have built up, and pissed off exactly the kind of customer they should want to keep.
    Agreed, I have become a whole hog fan boy, along with my family, 365, music subscriptions, purchase of the odd film, and many devices, but as mentioned although this didn't directly affect me or my family (All have 1TB and none of us using a fraction of that), it has put a massive doubt in my mind as to how my relationship with MS should develop.
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    11-28-2015 11:51 AM
  21. 7a2eer's Avatar
    I do, and I don't even have my music and video files up there. I'm a photographer and artist. I don't even have more than the past 2 years of files on OneDrive. The RAW files coming out of a modern full frame camera are big, and so are many PSD files.

    YOUR use case is not everyone's use case.

    I was surprised and delighted when they announced free unlimited storage even though I wasn't adverse to paying. I was less delighted when Windows 10 totally gimped the OneDrive integration and didn't have the (very useful) OneDrive app. If there was a viable replacement for placeholders coming -- as they promised -- I think we would have heard some details by now. So I'm shopping for an alternate single solution now. (As yes, I also have off-site backups and a personal NAS. Instant cloud backups are a really useful feature to have.)

    The Office 365 subscription is a dirt cheap way to get 1TB of storage, but at $240/year for the next 1TB in 200MB increments, color me unimpressed. And even that level of storage is going away in about a month or two.

    For a while I was moving in the direction of whole hog MS fangirl rocking my WP, Surface Pro 3, OneDrive reliance and Band. This weaselly backpedalling on OneDrive storage broke a level of trust they have built up, and pissed off exactly the kind of customer they should want to keep.
    Microsoft doesn't expect anyone to use their 1TB, neither does any other cloud service provider. "Unlimited Storage" was never unlimited as it was subjected to ambiguous terms like "reasonable use". OneDrive was better before Windows 10 reared its ugly head, but the changes only reflect what I have already mentioned -- Microsoft doesn't want you capping your storage limit.

    The default settings of WP8 were not to upload full quality photos and videos, rather "good" quality was the default. 5MP photos and 720p. That's a hint that your usage scenario is a boundary case. Azure growth is high, which could have been a reason for the sudden policy change.

    Sorry that you have to shop around, Microsoft should consider different usage scenarios. Since you have a NAS you could easily setup a ftp/(ssh) stfp server. Duplicity is a decent open source solution to backup compressed/encrypted files to your NAS.

    Edit: I'm all for reason, my intentions are not to defend Microsoft. FWIW I have switched my phone OnePlus X, my cloud provider to Mega, and have downgraded my Windows partition to Windows 8.1. Have gotten rid of my Xbox and canceled my Music subscription after charging me without permission (and refusing to refund me). Wouldn't even consider the confirmation emails/screenshots... Skype? Dropped that too. WhatsApp works just as well for my purposes and isn't littered with ads. It is apparent there are droves of people who continue to use these services.
    You're welcome to vent, but don't take your frustrations out on me ;)))
    Last edited by 7a2eer; 11-29-2015 at 05:00 PM.
    11-29-2015 04:42 PM
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