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  1. deepak12345's Avatar
    tired of all these rumors of the 650 being the last lumia to be ever produced. what do you guys think? i personally do not want that to happen. I have seen the posts by Daniel Rubino though.
    01-18-2016 05:39 AM
  2. Pete's Avatar
    Rumours are just what they are.
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    01-18-2016 05:40 AM
  3. deepak12345's Avatar
    Rumours are just what they are.
    hope thats true... Ive been using lumias since their first gen. Surface phone even if released wont be affordable by most and maybe priced along with the iphones.,
    01-18-2016 05:43 AM
  4. Kartik 10's Avatar
    I suppose it might just be the last Lumia of year
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    01-18-2016 05:45 AM
  5. fdalbor's Avatar
    Dont know if it is true or not but if it is even the only lumia produced in 2016 it will be the end of the line for Microsoft in phones. They might as well not even produce it. If it is true (and who knows) just think of the millions of Windows phone users that are going to be pissed at Microsoft and change to Android or IOS. I know i would probably not use any Microsoft on my phones again. Probably just keep Windows on my two desktops and go with Android. Could be the begenning of the end for Microsoft.
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    01-18-2016 08:36 AM
  6. Legoboyii's Avatar
    Or it could just mean that they'll be using a new moniker for phones. They did say there would be 3 subsets. Budget Business and Flagship? Something like that. So could be there will be 3 different "Surface" phones? More of a rebranding because many associate Lumia's as cheap budget phones and unattractive options to the general public, while people know Surface and know it's a good brand, so maybe they're going to build off that for mobile too? Just food for thought :)
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    01-18-2016 08:43 AM
  7. Old_Mil's Avatar
    How many phones does Apple produce a year? The upgrade cycle is lengthening. I am using an 830, the rest of the family a 1520 and a 920. No real reason to upgrade at this point. 1-2 devices a year max sounds about right if they have proper specs, especially entering a recession.
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    01-18-2016 08:45 AM
  8. deepak12345's Avatar
    Or it could just mean that they'll be using a new moniker for phones. They did say there would be 3 subsets. Budget Business and Flagship? Something like that. So could be there will be 3 different "Surface" phones? More of a rebranding because many associate Lumia's as cheap budget phones and unattractive options to the general public, while people know Surface and know it's a good brand, so maybe they're going to build off that for mobile too? Just food for thought :)
    Well just think about it, the reason for people considering lumias as low end cheap phones was due to Microsoft's crazy strategy in 2015 only producing low end phones. And about rebranding it to surface , no hope as its only famousbin the countries where its available and in the places where its jot produced 3/4th font even know what it is.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
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    01-18-2016 09:59 AM
  9. deepak12345's Avatar
    1-2 devices a year max sounds about right if they have proper specs, especially entering a recession.
    Which is not what's happening right now.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    01-18-2016 10:01 AM
  10. HeyCori's Avatar
    Considering Nadella's commitment to build Windows phones and their shift in strategy, I don't foresee Microsoft pulling a Nokia. Which is to say, I don't think Microsoft will sporadically release multiple variations of low-mid range devices, and scatter them throughout the globe. I think that is a big part of why the 950 isn't available on Verizon. Microsoft doesn't want to create a unique device for each carrier. That was Nokia's strategy, a strategy forced on them by the power of the carriers. In a way, Microsoft is using their low market share to their advantage. Microsoft has decided to build the phones they want, carriers be damned. I think that's the right approach but one that leads to fewer handsets per year. I suspect Microsoft will fall inline with other OEMs, releasing a low-mid-flagship throughout the year. Whether that device is called a Lumia or Surface Phone is up in the air.
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    01-18-2016 12:27 PM
  11. Stiv X's Avatar
    Considering Nadella's commitment to build Windows phones and their shift in strategy, I don't foresee Microsoft pulling a Nokia. Which is to say, I don't think Microsoft will sporadically release multiple variations of low-mid range devices, and scatter them throughout the globe. I think that is a big part of why the 950 isn't available on Verizon. Microsoft doesn't want to create a unique device for each carrier. That was Nokia's strategy, a strategy forced on them by the power of the carriers. In a way, Microsoft is using their low market share to their advantage. Microsoft has decided to build the phones they want, carriers be damned. I think that's the right approach but one that leads to fewer handsets per year. I suspect Microsoft will fall inline with other OEMs, releasing a low-mid-flagship throughout the year. Whether that device is called a Lumia or Surface Phone is up in the air.
    I personally would hate a low or mid range "Surface Phone", though. I think the "Surface Phone" should be the flagship and keep the Lumia line for the mid and low range devices.
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    01-19-2016 10:48 AM
  12. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    Whatever they decide to call them, I hope they keep making phones. Competition is good.

    Sent from my BlackBerry Q10 via Tapatalk
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    01-20-2016 07:18 PM
  13. skstrials's Avatar
    tired of all these rumors of the 650 being the last lumia to be ever produced. what do you guys think? i personally do not want that to happen. I have seen the posts by Daniel Rubino though.
    I thought I heard Daniel Rubino saying the 650 might be the last Lumia THIS YEAR. Where did he say the 650 would be the last Lumia ever?

    It makes sense that the 650 would be the last Lumia of this year. But it still leaves room for more Lumias in the coming years though.
    01-23-2016 08:00 PM
  14. Juan Rosado Casanova's Avatar
    I have read that they would stop making carrier branded phones. That only flagship phones will get carrier brands and all others would be unlocked phones
    01-30-2016 07:34 AM
  15. fdalbor's Avatar
    We are not out of January and they are talking about no more Lumias for the rest of the year. You got to be kidding ?????
    01-30-2016 07:03 PM
  16. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Who knows? Right now, all that is known is the Lumia 650 and the Surface Phone 1. However, that's just what's known about Microsoft, no idea about other brands. So with MWC around the corner, it's probably best to sit back until it's over to see where everything stands.
    01-30-2016 07:18 PM
  17. Steve Adams's Avatar
    How many phones does Apple produce a year? The upgrade cycle is lengthening. I am using an 830, the rest of the family a 1520 and a 920. No real reason to upgrade at this point. 1-2 devices a year max sounds about right if they have proper specs, especially entering a recession.
    There are WAY to many people comparing WP and release cycles with android. Android based phones are released at a mind numbing pace, just like the OS is mind numbing. If MS realeases 2 phones a year, that's awesome. People here need to calm the *&^$ down. Or, conversely, LEAVE all the negativity at the door.
    02-13-2016 05:15 AM
  18. Delta Concepts's Avatar
    Being the last Lumia doesn't mean it will be the last smartphone produced by Microsoft. I believe there will be a new name for Microsoft's smartphones to show that Microsoft has reinvented itself in mobile producing.
    02-17-2016 09:50 AM
  19. xandros9's Avatar
    Pretty sure I heard it was the last Lumia for the year.

    Kind of a big difference.
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    02-17-2016 10:19 AM
  20. tohoshinki's Avatar
    From what I understand, MS is essentially ceeding the hardware lead they inherited from Nokia. By selling fewer Lumias, it opens the market up for stronger offerings and more visibility for 3rd party OEMs, meaning more sales and a stronger platform. Ultimately MS does not want to sell phones, it wants to see its OS on other manufacturers devices akin to how google handles android.

    We will see other phones from MS. However for big W10 releases we should now turn our attention to the big OEMs. Samsung, HP, HTC, LG, ZTE Huawei, Alcatel and Acer. All rumored to be producing new hardware and flagship level material.

    Samsung may start offering W10 phones under its Galaxy brand this year, as it already does with its tablets.
    02-17-2016 10:55 AM
  21. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    Pretty sure I heard it was the last Lumia for the year.

    Kind of a big difference.
    And so is " pretty sure I heard", and " I definitely heard ". Lol:-)
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    02-17-2016 11:05 AM
  22. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    From what I understand, MS is essentially ceeding the hardware lead they inherited from Nokia. By selling fewer Lumias, it opens the market up for stronger offerings and more visibility for 3rd party OEMs, meaning more sales and a stronger platform. Ultimately MS does not want to sell phones, it wants to see its OS on other manufacturers devices akin to how google handles android.

    We will see other phones from MS. However for big W10 releases we should now turn our attention to the big OEMs. Samsung, HP, HTC, LG, ZTE Huawei, Alcatel and Acer. All rumored to be producing new hardware and flagship level material.

    Samsung may start offering W10 phones under its Galaxy brand this year, as it already does with its tablets.
    I hope they release fewer devices. When you look over the past couple of years, it has been a nightmare. Where do you start?

    435, 535, 635 ( two variants! ), 640, 640xl, the 7 series, the 8 series, the 1320, the 1520 and the icon / 930!! Where do you start!!

    A friend of mine works for Carphone Warehouse in the UK and openly admitted to me that, if a potential customer walked in for a cheap low end handset, the MS display was just confusing. In the end, they would just plump for the brand they knew of, invariably samsung. To shift devices the 435 was up for 20. A third of the price of the samsung, and probably the better option! When they thinned out their stock, they had the sensible option of a low, mid and top end option. They sold no end of 435's, the 640's were starting to pick up, only the 930 remained stagnant.

    So, IMHO, a low / mid / flagship is plenty, especially when you look at the confusion for the buyer over the past couple of years. Add in that some were labelled nokia and some MS!

    It makes sense, as mentioned previously, it allows for OEM's to plug any potential gaps. Maybe a brand like Vaio, who have a reputation for quality laptops , with Sony, may stand out. Acer are a world known brand as well, so maybe the buying public will be comfortable with them as well...

    Fingers crossed
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    02-17-2016 11:22 AM
  23. Elisamuel Figueroa's Avatar
    I believe MS should only produce 2 high-end and 2 mid-end (regular Size and XL), leaving space for other EOMs to produce low-end to high-end. Let's remember that on Android is very confusing to choose since they have over 30+ EOMs making phones, I believe during 2013-2015 Nokia and Microsoft needed to cover the gap of lack phones since the other EOMs abandoned ship. But now I believe Microsoft is trying to convince companies to develop W10M by cutting the Lumia series to only 9xx, 6xx and 5xx, MS like many have said is trying to distance themselves from the Nokia strategy. But I agree that they need to change the Lumia brand. Nokia is planning to come back to the smartphone game, so people may buy a new Nokia phone thinking is a windows phone or Lumia. Also all the people I know when I say have a windows phone looks at me like "Are they still making those?" So a new OS name is what they need as a disguise, everyone knows the surface runs windows, "surface phone" sounds great as the new name for windows phone or W10M. Like the iPhone and iPad both run iOS but different versions, Imagine if all windows developers update their apps to Universal, it will be pretty much how things are on iOS. Let's think outside the box.
    02-21-2016 02:38 AM
  24. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    IMHO, the gaps left by just 3 w10 devices was probably a carrot, hung for other manufacturers (OEM's) to fill. I personally think that MS have these devices to demonstrate the capability of the software, hence why us nutjobs on insider, suffer the bugs etc. When people say things are dead, I whole heartedly disagree. I believe MSFT are taking a step back and returning to their particular forte, software development, and w10m is being set up for the long game. They should drop the Windows Phone / Windows Mobile, and just stick to a tag line / brand that people know, love and sometimes hate in equal measures. The Lumia brand should be taken to a field and shot as well. Windows 10 should be in the title, i.e. Windows 10 mobile or device etc. The numbering system, whilst making sense, isn't exactly sexy. Even iPhone 6 doesn't sound particularly nice. The difference is they keep it up for the brand and recognition. You have the Sony Z series. Ohh yeah, sounds cool, and 007 has one! Samsung have the Galaxy. The tag has been around for ages, yet Galaxy is, once again recognisable to pretty much every one. So, yeah ditch the phone / Lumia. Despite how much we try to inform others, there is an old saying that says 's*** sticks!'

    Finally, you have the networks and retailers. As mentioned in another post, my friend works for CPW. A nice 3ft by 2ft display, in the middle of android to the left and Samsung / iPhone to the right. A prominent position, BUT, when asked about continuum, they have no facility to demonstrate it!! They know their onions, but joe public loses interest and buys android or iPhone.

    Hopefully a rebrand or OEM's spending more than 5 on marketing might help!
    02-22-2016 11:51 AM
  25. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Not just because me and Mad Cabbie are in the same business, but I agree with him, Nokia flush with MS funding for a few years went beserk making phone after phone variations, we discussed this in depth last year and the bulk of opinion agreed that there were far to many Lumia's particularly at the lower end, MS took over but it then took all of this time to put the brakes on.

    I think they should produce Lumia's, and if they insist on using the numbering system, a 5XX, a 7XX and a 9XX should be where they are heading for, in other words a budget phone, a business or mid range and then a top of the line. I think the current line up of a 550 and a 650 is to close together and do they really need two top ends, I would have gone for just one top end and sized it in the middle of the 950 and XL and then if they need or want to a Surface phone, but if people like HP are already developing "Super" phones is there a need.
    02-27-2016 09:38 AM
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