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  1. Jesse Venables's Avatar
    Is this on par with Tim Cook tweeting on his Samsung Galaxy 6? Yes IMO.

    For Joe and knowing he is a public face for the Platform... pretty embarrassing. It's fine if he uses a phone but he shouldn't be caught with it. Say what you want about Elop but when he was on TV and in Interviews, I remember him stealing and smashing iPhones to promote Windows. Sad day for the Platform Indeed if you want my take on it.
    Kram Sacul, xandros9 and Schnuffi like this.
    01-28-2016 05:58 PM
  2. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    I wonder if Tim Cook uses a windows phone to see what it is like.
    I'm pretty sure he did seeing how much iOS has borrowed from WP over the years.
    theefman and cdayo like this.
    01-28-2016 06:04 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    So what? Eric Schmidt (Google) uses a BlackBerry 9900. He's been photographed with it in his hand and he's in a much higher position than Belfiore. Check the Q&A below, he "NEEDS" to carry his Bold

    Google chairman Eric Schmidt: ?I still love BlackBerrys? | Financial Post
    01-28-2016 06:08 PM
  4. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    You obviously haven't used their products on multiple platforms or you wouldn't even hint at this, much less say it.

    Enjoy the wait in isolation as you sail on the MS Titanic.
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    01-28-2016 06:22 PM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    Dollars to donuts that the Surface Phone will be an Android device. Apps are not coming to Windows. That is all.
    Nah I don't think so, a Surface Phone running Android would defeat the purpose of Surface Phone and make about as much sense as an Android laptop.
    curi0CT likes this.
    01-28-2016 06:49 PM
  6. avlon's Avatar
    I'm fairly certain that people in all companies use their competitors products. For example, I was recently at an Apple store, and one of their employees used Android as well as iOS because they preferred the ability to customize their homescreen. Or, an ATT who has a Sprint phone as their personal phone, etc.
    01-28-2016 07:13 PM
  7. fdalbor's Avatar
    Its fine for them to use what ever they want. But not in public where it can be displayed on the media. Its like the guy that goes around with a KICK me sign on this back. And he knows its there.
    01-28-2016 08:39 PM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I really don't see the big deal if one of company X's employees uses company Y's phones for their personal use. What's next, no Chevys at Ford's parking lot?
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    01-28-2016 08:45 PM
  9. Schnuffi's Avatar
    The problem is there is no good way to spin this. Haters will be haters. What he uses as a test phone or not doesn't really matter. What matters is he was caught and he should have seen the s***storm coming if he was caught. That's why I now will question his judgment on anything he does in the future because it makes him look like an ***** and by association us as well.
    Last edited by Schnuffi; 01-28-2016 at 09:50 PM.
    01-28-2016 09:08 PM
  10. iyae's Avatar
    Looks like he is twitting via iPhone

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/26/10832284/joe-belfiore-iphone-user


    no excuses:

    1 - His response is a complete bull
    2 - He is using iPhone because it does have all official apps that he needs for traveling. (Social, etc...)
    3 - Microsoft needs to do something with him. He is a "icon" for windows
    devices and doing this will hurt the platform even more.
    1) That's your opinion
    2) Your evidence for this is where? That's just you saying something and acting like it must be true
    3) No, they don't. idiots like you who don't understand you need to really use a phone for a long time to understand its upsides and downsides. You have zero idea how this works. So shut up
    4) Go have your cry somewhere else
    5) Why is this site full of self-righteous tunnel-vision morons?
    IndyJG and ArtificiallyYours like this.
    01-28-2016 09:53 PM
  11. WinCoffee's Avatar
    Getting cancer from this forum thread... Maybe it's just there's all "Die Hard Fans".
    Seriously whatever he is usin iPhone...
    I'm using Windows 10 Mobile...
    I like it, I use it.
    He probably likes iPhone and he is using it.
    01-29-2016 12:47 AM
  12. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    The verge who broke this story is huge. They have tones of unique visitors, I have seen estimates of a million a day. Even if a small percentage read this then that is a loss of a lot of potential customers. We are fans here we know the platform most of these people don't and have more of a reason to stay away.
    I don't know why this move of Belfiore, using an iphone and making "sure" everyone is seeing it, was not an intended move for MS to ease the kill for windows mobile division, signs that everyone could see, signs that show the truth.
    01-29-2016 01:52 AM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    Nah I don't think so, a Surface Phone running Android would defeat the purpose of Surface Phone and make about as much sense as an Android laptop.
    Off topic: I'm not sure.

    There are a few ways to rationalize killing Project Astoria, making WM's UI very Android like, and ditching the Lumia brand (the L650 will allegedly be the last one).
    Out of all the possible rationalizations, the idea that the Surface Phone could be based on Cyanogen and include W10's UWP components (so it could run universal apps) seems to almost make the most sense.
    I wouldn't be too surprised.
    01-29-2016 01:53 AM
  14. teng_m's Avatar
    This is like an McDonald employee, while still wearing their uniform, is eating at burger king during their break.
    It's not illegal per se' but it is really bad for the image of the company they are working for
    01-29-2016 02:08 AM
  15. passat31's Avatar
    oh boy ..what a relief ..I thought it was using a windows phone.The thing is : how can you convince anyone now to switch or even upgrade to a windows phone if the head of windows phone department and I'm sure almost all its employees are using Iphones.......why do I the simple user have to support Microsoft and buy a windows phone? If its dead already and even its employees are not using the platform then ..they tricked us again.
    arwars and Kevin Rush like this.
    01-29-2016 02:54 AM
  16. deepak12345's Avatar
    If they continue by not concentrating on windows phone even a little. I dont think the platform would last another year. See how much of the sales declined 1st problem because of the less number of devices 2nd they are busy concentrating on other platforms.
    arwars and Kevin Rush like this.
    01-29-2016 03:06 AM
  17. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Once I used to praise WP 8 and 8.1 and convinced many to switch. boy that was a nice period. Now I would not dare to even try to speak of switching to Win10 as buggy and crappy as it is.
    01-29-2016 04:11 AM
  18. Victor Carvalho's Avatar
    He is a spy! kidding, I see no problem using an iPhone or Android device. Microsoft services are available for all of them!
    WinCoffee likes this.
    01-29-2016 05:08 AM
  19. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    He is a spy! kidding, I see no problem using an iPhone or Android device. Microsoft services are available for all of them!
    Yes they are, and work better. but the excuse he wrote is despicable really...I mean come on, the iphone and android are on the market for a long time, don't tell me that he does not know what those platforms can and can't do, even more if MS has apps on them...
    01-29-2016 05:14 AM
  20. Lord Method Man's Avatar
    Yes they are, and work better. but the excuse he wrote is despicable really...I mean come on, the iphone and android are on the market for a long time, don't tell me that he does not know what those platforms can and can't do, even more if MS has apps on them...
    I'd be happier if he just told the truth and said iPhone works better for his needs. His excuse was pretty bad and was only believed by the most institutionalized of fanboys.
    arwars likes this.
    01-29-2016 08:03 AM
  21. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    I'd be happier if he just told the truth and said iPhone works better for his needs. His excuse was pretty bad and was only believed by the most institutionalized of fanboys.
    Neither they really believed it, only pretended to, lying to themselves in hope of not being disapp. again by MS.
    01-29-2016 09:01 AM
  22. Mohammed Hikmet's Avatar
    sigh.. no one really cares what he uses, most consumers don't go reading every article in every tech site, they don't even read articles in tech sites..

    Plus it doesn't harm you in any way. you like windows phone? then freaking use windows phone.
    How annoying.
    01-29-2016 09:09 AM
  23. Edwin Yuen's Avatar
    I'd be happier if he just told the truth and said iPhone works better for his needs. His excuse was pretty bad and was only believed by the most institutionalized of fanboys.
    I know that I'm late to the thread but I'm ex-MSFT, worked there for 7 years, and I saw Joe a number of times on Campus, even at the Commons at the various cell carrier stores to have his phone looked at. Even then, in 2011, he carried an iPhone. I was a little shocked at first to see it but when I asked others I knew in the WP group about it, they said that's common since they work with WP every day and many needed the every day experience with other phone OS. Most of them had 8-10 different phones and used 2-3 regularly. I even know one of the leads of Google compete that used a Nexus phone as his daily phone. I know the "use the competition" story seems like an excuse but it really isn't at MSFT. I would know, I ran a competitive intelligence team there.

    All this didn't mean that their loyalty to MSFT or WP was any less. Now, if Joe is on sabbatical (which is available to MSFT employees at a high enough level and after 10 years of service), he can certainly use any phone he wants. Is it a little weird he is posting from his iPhone? Kinda. Is it disappointing? Yes. Is it some betrayal of MSFT/Windows that all of a sudden he is using an iPhone? No. He's been using iPhone for years, even potentially as a daily driver, he just hasn't been posting from it.
    a5cent, curi0CT, arwars and 1 others like this.
    01-29-2016 09:15 AM
  24. jbestman's Avatar
    Yes they are, and work better. but the excuse he wrote is despicable really...I mean come on, the iphone and android are on the market for a long time, don't tell me that he does not know what those platforms can and can't do, even more if MS has apps on them...
    You are being ridiculous. He has been working on Windows Phone for most of his career. He is on an extended leave. This is his first free time in a while. He has decided to get to know THE CURRENT iOS iteration. Not the old one. Not the iOS that was available last year. THE CURRENT ONE. And he has decided to do that on his free time. And get this.... he said he would be doing this weeks before he did it. He wasn't caught using it. We knew he would be doing this because he told us he would weeks ago!
    Seriously, you guys need to get a life. You guys get upset over the most mundane of things.
    01-29-2016 09:24 AM
  25. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ I agree, but I also understand the outrage (to an extent). People are frustrated, their nerves are raw. People wish WM would finally succeed and we've since noticed W10M offers us nothing to get excited over. So, everybody is looking for someone to blame.
    This occurence serves us a possible traitor on a silver tablet. I think the level of outrage is completely overblown , but that it's happening is very much expected.
    Last edited by a5cent; 01-29-2016 at 09:55 AM.
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    01-29-2016 09:38 AM
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