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  1. Barstow15's Avatar
    Here's a recent Forbes article I found: Tim Sweeney: Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform Must, And Will, Die

    I cannot post the article's link because the site says I don't have enough posts. Strange. I thought I did. The article is dated March 4, 2016. Here's the article copied and pasted:

    Strong words coming from Epic Games Tim Sweeney today. Microsoft MSFT -0.64% has recently been making a push to unify the Windows platform across PC, Xbox and mobile, and Sweeney is not a fan. In an editorial in The Guardian, the veteran game developer argues that Microsoft is trying to close down the Windows platform and monopolize all of its app business. He reminds us that Microsoft has had flirtations with monopoly in the past:

    In my view, this is the most aggressive move Microsoft has ever made. While the company has been convicted of violating antitrust law in the past, its wrongful actions were limited to fights with specific competitors and contracts with certain PC manufacturers.

    Epic Games own the Unreal Engine, and so Sweeneys words go a long way in the developer communtiy. He argues that the Unified Windows Platform needs to be as open as the current win32 API, allowing any companies or individuals to operate stores or engage in commerce, and that any Windows user needs to be able to download and install any Windows 10 application downloaded directly from the web. Windows 10, he argues, has been less than perfectly open so far:

    Microsoft has launched new PC Windows features exclusively in UWP, and is effectively telling developers you can use these Windows features only if you submit to the control of our locked-down UWP ecosystem. Theyre curtailing users freedom to install full-featured PC software, and subverting the rights of developers and publishers to maintain a direct relationship with their customers.

    Microsofts Phil Spencer has responded on Twitter TWTR +0.26% in no uncertain terms. Windows has always been an open ecosystem welcoming the contributions of hardware and software partners, and will always continue to be, he said. UWP is a fully open ecosystem, available to every developer, and can be supported by any store.

    Its an important question: Windows is one of the most open platforms out there, and its still a bastion of indie game and app development. But Sweeney argues that Microsofts rhetoric and actions dont quite line up:

    Microsofts intentions must be judged by Microsofts actions, not Microsofts words. Their actions speak plainly enough: they are working to turn todays open PC ecosystem into a closed, Microsoft-controlled distribution and commerce monopoly, over time, in a series of steps of which were seeing the very first. Unless Microsoft changes course, all of the independent companies comprising the PC ecosystem have a decision to make: to oppose this, or cede control of their existing customer relationships and commerce to Microsofts exclusive control.

    What do you think? I'd love to read your opinions.

    -Cheers.
    03-06-2016 06:02 PM
  2. Jazmac's Avatar
    Sweeney is talking anti-trust? I wonder what his motives are to make such a claim? He may have a bone to pick about unification (I have yet to read his "compelling" take on it) but where does it get to anti-trust? Moreover, doesn't the Unreal engine run on walled-gardens like OSX and Sony's PS4? Why is this he tripping about what he thinks Microsoft is doing? But why do you say it WILL die OP? You have a bone to pick too? Would you enlighten me?
    03-06-2016 06:34 PM
  3. Guytronic's Avatar
    That story was on the frontpage blog here at WC:
    http://www.windowscentral.com/epic-g...-microsoft-uwp

    Lot's of comments below the article.
    03-06-2016 07:19 PM
  4. triageatdawn's Avatar
    As if Google and Apple are doing bad because of Microsoft's "monopoly" or whatever Sweeney was referring to. MS apps and services are everywhere. Even the UWP is rumored to spread across iOS and Android in the future. We haven't seen much of iOS and Android on Windows, have we? Talk about being an utter hypocrite. The only thing that will die (in case it hasn't happened already) is his sanity. //end rant
    03-06-2016 08:34 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Mr. Sweeney sounds like that kid who thought he had the hottest toy on his block and then the rich kid down the street blew him away with something better. When has Microsoft said or hinted that only Store apps will work on a PC. Apps are for tablets and phones, PROGRAMS are for PCs. Always have, always will.
    03-06-2016 08:47 PM
  6. Barstow15's Avatar
    "Sweeney is talking anti-trust? I wonder what his motives are to make such a claim? He may have a bone to pick about unification (I have yet to read his "compelling" take on it) but where does it get to anti-trust? Moreover, doesn't the Unreal engine run on walled-gardens like OSX and Sony's PS4? Why is this he tripping about what he thinks Microsoft is doing? But why do you say it WILL die OP? You have a bone to pick too? Would you enlighten me?"

    You misunderstood. I didn't say it will die. Tim Sweeney said it. That's the name of the article: Tim Sweeney: Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform Must, And Will, Die.

    Nope. No bone to pick. I actually didn't understand what Sweeney was complaining about. I was hoping I'd understand his gripe with people's comments/opinions about the article.
    Last edited by Barstow15; 03-06-2016 at 09:48 PM. Reason: forgot to quote the comment
    03-06-2016 09:45 PM
  7. ArtificiallyYours's Avatar
    What an angry little hipster Sweeney is lol.
    HeyCori, KimRM, fatclue_98 and 1 others like this.
    03-06-2016 10:30 PM
  8. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    WOW, I mean really, WOW, I have never read so much BS in my life.
    ArtificiallyYours likes this.
    03-08-2016 10:58 AM
  9. HeyCori's Avatar
    I thought this was a good counter opinion

    Tim Sweeney is missing the point; the PC platform needs fixing | Ars Technica
    Guytronic, TechFreak1 and jmshub like this.
    03-08-2016 11:22 AM
  10. jmshub's Avatar
    I agree. Peter knocked it out of the park with this one. There is no need for a game to require elevated privileges to run properly.
    HeyCori and Guytronic like this.
    03-08-2016 03:46 PM

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