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  1. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ If they are smart MS won't market it as a Surface Phone! The term "phone" is automatically associated with apps and other expectations which W10M can't meet.

    Instant death in the media if they call it that.
    Last edited by a5cent; 05-26-2016 at 07:50 AM. Reason: spelling
    05-26-2016 03:39 AM
  2. Sensonic's Avatar
    Finnish TV news, yesterday evening: Microsoft is gonna stop phone developing and will sack 1350 employees (who used to be former Nokia employees) in Finland. The news also wrote "Microsoft is gonna run down its phone business and manufacturing". Sad day indeed...
    05-26-2016 04:16 AM
  3. ohgood's Avatar
    have not seen a Windows phone in months, now I've just read marketshare dropped below one percent.

    is it finally OK to call the game ?
    05-26-2016 04:51 AM
  4. Stef8600's Avatar
    It's over folks. Look where they stated they would continue to "support" the old Nokias, no mention of ANY future products. Done. Guess I just got lucky unloading my last 640.
    It ain't over till it's over.
    Let's see where Apple and Google will be within 3 years with their announced refreshed OS'es.... euh what you say?
    05-26-2016 04:58 AM
  5. Sensonic's Avatar
    have not seen a Windows phone in months, now I've just read marketshare dropped below one percent.

    is it finally OK to call the game ?
    Forgot the link:

    http://yle.fi/uutiset/microsoft_to_c...inland/8905938
    05-26-2016 04:58 AM
  6. Stef8600's Avatar
    Finnish TV news, yesterday evening: Microsoft is gonna stop phone developing and will sack 1350 employees (who used to be former Nokia employees) in Finland. The news also wrote "Microsoft is gonna run down its phone business and manufacturing". Sad day indeed...
    Of course they will state it like this. Patriotic, yes, but also best example of bad journalism.
    05-26-2016 05:01 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    YEP. GAME.

    Android is just too laggy on everything I have used it on, including the nexus 6p, anything Samsung, and the new LG.
    I don't think the word lag means what you think it means, but anyway. Enjoy Apple.

    One day someone is going to have to tell me what they're doing to get this so called lag....
    05-26-2016 06:59 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Of course they will state it like this. Patriotic, yes, but also best example of bad journalism.
    When someone buys up part of your biggest successful company and simply kills it within a couple of years you can understand them being slighting upset. Especially the loss of employment in a rough economy.

    Thing is, they didn't say anything untruthful. Microsoft has killed the Nokia hardware division in Finland. and has ramped down the phone division. It was news here on WC, didn't you see it?

    Microsoft is restructuring its smartphone business, will cut 1,850 jobs | Windows Central
    05-26-2016 07:04 AM
  9. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    It ain't over till it's over.
    Let's see where Apple and Google will be within 3 years with their announced refreshed OS'es.... euh what you say?
    Didn't see the news from Google I/O huh?

    http://www.windowscentral.com/micros...&utm_source=wp
    theefman and a5cent like this.
    05-26-2016 07:05 AM
  10. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    have not seen a Windows phone in months, now I've just read marketshare dropped below one percent.

    is it finally OK to call the game ?
    I'm starting to wonder if MS wants people to forget WP ever happened and then start fresh with W10M like it's something new and fresh.
    sahib lopez likes this.
    05-26-2016 07:06 AM
  11. SeeVuPlay's Avatar
    It's over folks. Look where they stated they would continue to "support" the old Nokias, no mention of ANY future products. Done. Guess I just got lucky unloading my last 640.
    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearle harbor!?
    jazz70 and Greg Wenzler like this.
    05-26-2016 07:11 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearle harbor!?
    Um... wrong country... it was Japan...

    Suggestion - You should know your history before using it as an example
    a5cent, theefman, libra89 and 6 others like this.
    05-26-2016 07:14 AM
  13. Kimmo Toivanen's Avatar
    Of course they will state it like this. Patriotic, yes, but also best example of bad journalism.
    With the uncertain exception of continuing to develop mobile(s) for enterprise (maybe in Panay's team?), I'd say there is nothing wrong with the news.

    ----

    Without MS selling consumer mobiles, how long will the OEMs continues to sell consumer mobiles (if it matters at all if they do or don't)? Without consumer mobiles, what will be the future of consumer (commonly available) apps for mobiles? And without consumer apps for mobiles what will be the future of enterprise mobile?
    05-26-2016 07:21 AM
  14. Mike Gibson's Avatar
    Um... wrong country... it was Japan...

    Suggestion - You should know your history before using it as an example
    Forget it, he's on a roll!
    jazz70 likes this.
    05-26-2016 07:31 AM
  15. Darkseider's Avatar
    Meh... In my opinion it's much ado about nothing. They sold off the feature phone division and will no longer make Lumia phones. Doesn't say anything about FoxConn making Lumia branded phones with a little royalty deal. Also third party manufacturers are making WP10 phones and MS also stated that they are introducing new devices. Surface Phone? Me thinks so. So all in all Microsoft did what any smart company would do. Get rid of the albatross around their neck. Does anyone remember when Google sacked Motorola? Motorola is still here and Android is the 800 lb. gorilla.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    05-26-2016 08:33 AM
  16. fdalbor's Avatar
    After all this someone actually WANTS a Windows Flagship. People never cease to amaze me. Now that i have gone Android do i have to give up my avatar. I do still have my wife's 640 which she likes.
    05-26-2016 09:42 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    DO YOU know what LAG means....sounds to me as if you are lacking on the definition of it.
    I'm well aware of the definition. Just not sure most people are. :P

    I'm quite happy with my Z3, no issues but then maybe I'm more forgiving than most people.
    libra89 likes this.
    05-26-2016 09:59 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I know I am...I have been hanging on to wp for years....just had enough of the promises and then zero follow through with anything. No apps, no accessories, no wearable support...no....support.

    The z series are probably the best android phones made imo. Samsung is terrible. HTC not much better, but even the nexus and lg are not far ahead.

    I waited for something better to come out when I was ready for an upgrade and wasn't impressed so I moved. I'm a lot happier now.

    I agree the Sony phones are good. Just unfortunate that Sony can't seem to hit the sweet spot with their devices 100%
    05-26-2016 10:25 AM
  19. werner6769's Avatar
    I just can't believe this. Microsoft under Nadella seems to want to kill w10m. Windows phone 8.1 was making some good progress. Releasing such a buggy os was suicide. Good luck waiting a year to come out with something like surface phone. Everyone will have moved on. As successful as 10 is on desktop, the apps are not coming except a few and far between. And not many of these apps have mobile versions despite the ease of creating them. Why would devs bother with an os that seems abandoned for a year? It's almost like Microsoft has made a deal with Apple and Google. We'll let you guys have the phone if you stay away from desktop, tablet. Crazy.
    05-26-2016 10:27 AM
  20. Aranya Tantu's Avatar
    Microsoft will continue to make Lumia for sure. For getting the UWP up and going Microsoft needs to be keeping the mobile phone market up and hence Lumia phones will continue to show up though fewer models, until it does not get other manufacturers making phone on the Windows OS.
    Today they ensued that they are leaving the consumer market.
    05-26-2016 11:14 AM
  21. squire777's Avatar
    Nokia fanboys and people in Finland can blame MS all they want but that company was already heading down the drain before MS got to them. Considering the state of Android OEMs not named Samsung I doubt they would have survived going with Android either.

    Anyway I hope the memo that was posted today reminds people that Windows Mobile isn't dead.
    05-26-2016 11:34 AM
  22. Kieta's Avatar
    Today they ensued that they are leaving the consumer market.
    Yeah, the announcement of 1850 more job cuts in the mobile division secured that
    05-26-2016 11:37 AM
  23. spineoftheworld's Avatar
    Um... wrong country... it was Japan...

    Suggestion - You should know your history before using it as an example
    You should know your movies before replying. It's a quote from the classic "Animal House" :)
    05-26-2016 11:55 AM
  24. jazz70's Avatar
    Um... wrong country... it was Japan...

    Suggestion - You should know your history before using it as an example
    FYI that is a famous line from the movie Animal House

    JuannyBooBoo and GottaBDroid like this.
    05-26-2016 12:03 PM
  25. michael Otlowski's Avatar
    Windows Mobile is not dead, it's just on life support. Market share is embarrassing, and the beta WP10 still is riddled with bugs. We will see how this all turns out but I am really dissapointed with WM and I may be leaving (with the flocks of others who have recently left)
    05-26-2016 12:30 PM
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