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  1. kegare's Avatar
    I'm thinkig about purchasing Lumia 830. (I want decent camera for taking photos of natural details and there are phones with better than 10.7mp camera) I know it's 1 year and 8 months old but I really like old Lumia design.
    Lumia 925, 1020, 830, 800, 735 were beautiful phones and x50 line is just... trying to look like regular android? In my opinion Microsoft is trying to get android user to it's side but they'll lose old WP users (just like me). I love Windows 10 but as designer I'll never buy "ugly" phone.
    Lumia 950 XL looks a bit like Phablet version of 830 but something isn't okay... That aluminium, geometry... it just isn't like harmonical 925 design, it's not iconic 800/1020/730 design... 950xl is only acceptable but it's little bit expensive (i liked "affordable flagship" idea of 830).
    So my question is: Should I buy Lumia 830 or wait for next wave of MS Phones and hope for nice phone with "old brave" design and big camera (like 1020/830/950XL)?
    Thank You!
    06-01-2016 04:49 AM
  2. charlatan1978's Avatar
    Hi, the Lumia 650 is a nice looking phone (8mp camera) and has a good looking screen.
    What are your thoughts on it?
    The only worry with the Lumia 830 is the fact that it is over a year old now, unless you can get it for a decent price.
    As for waiting for a new MS phone, you may be waiting a while...
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    06-01-2016 04:55 AM
  3. kegare's Avatar
    Okay now I have reply bar (it wewn't there 2 mins ago)
    Lumia x50 line looks too elegant for me with all that "glossy" parts of aluminium (all-matte aluminium on 830/930 was fine). In my opinion x50 have "business look" and i love that colorful-crazy design of older Lumias. Now I have Lumia 640 and I'd like to purchase better camera than 8mp. That's something I'm worrying about, next wave of phones that can be looooong time to wait...
    06-01-2016 05:16 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    Okay now I have reply bar (it wewn't there 2 mins ago)
    Lumia x50 line looks too elegant for me with all that "glossy" parts of aluminium (all-matte aluminium on 830/930 was fine). In my opinion x50 have "business look" and i love that colorful-crazy design of older Lumias. Now I have Lumia 640 and I'd like to purchase better camera than 8mp. That's something I'm worrying about, next wave of phones that can be looooong time to wait...
    You have a great point. The colors are gone unless you go Mozo. If you want a camera better than 8mp, you have no choice but to go with the 830. I have a feeling that the newer phones (which will probably come out NEXT year) will most likely follow a similar design language. Similar meaning black and white only.
    06-01-2016 07:51 AM
  5. kegare's Avatar
    You have a great point. The colors are gone unless you go Mozo. If you want a camera better than 8mp, you have no choice but to go with the 830. I have a feeling that the newer phones (which will probably come out NEXT year) will most likely follow a similar design language. Similar meaning black and white only.
    Good to know, i probably cant wait ontil next year and hope but it's great to know i'm not alone who feel it same. Idea of colorful Lumias is just 2 years old... But color are just part of it, nokia has great design language, perfect to hold in hand (Lumia925/Lumia1320), camera was dominating on phone's back... It was symphony of shapes and these x50 phones are... regular/boring? So nobody of Windows 10 mobile users will not be able to say "I'm not like anybody else"
    06-01-2016 11:42 AM
  6. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I too love the look of the 830. Mad respect for the camera. I had one with the matte black ring and it looked fantastic with the Green or Orange back and a clear snap on case.

    LOVE my screaming Yellow 1520.3 and that remains my daily driver unless I'm testing Insider on my Green 640.

    830 is worthwhile still, but if you have the $$$ look at 950/Xl and a Mozo Back.

    950Xl will take great picks, is future proof and if I had one I would put this on it. Back cover for Lumia 950 XL (red) ? Mozo Accessories , but there are a lot of Mozo options Products ? Mozo Accessories

    950 gets the same treatment from Mozo.

    I think the upcoming Spring 2017 releases from Microsoft won't be so colorful...
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    06-01-2016 03:50 PM
  7. RJ Priest's Avatar
    It's heartbreaking to see how Microsoft has discarded the Nokia team and everything good that came along with the Nokia acquisition.

    Nokia Lumia was single handedly responsible for the exciting couple of years that we had with Windows Phone. The phone designs were beautiful, and packed innovative features (display, camera, microphones, glance screen, double tap to wake, etc). Nokia drove further innovation on the software side of things (the various imaging apps, the first storage check app, helping bring developers to the Windows Phone platform).

    Nokia was constantly held back due to Microsoft's slow progress with the OS (the Lumia 1020 is an example). When Microsoft acquired the Devices & Services division, it was supposed to herald "the dream team". Under Microsoft, the D&S group was supposed to have the resources be able to innovate more dramatically, taking advantage of synergy with Microsoft, helping to create the ultimate marriage of Windows Phone OS + hardware.

    Remember the first year of Windows Phone 8 and Nokia's products. Lumia was constantly catching headlines, stirring positive discussion, making Android users cry out in jeliousy for Nokia hardware. Now, I can just imagine how Nokia's return to the mobile world is going to give us a bitter taste from that Android perspective circa 2012/13. Many say that the old Nokia is gone, but Nokia retained the R&D division, and even though they are not manufacturing the phones, I anticipate some truly brilliant devices will be arriving from Nokia through their new shell company.

    I imagine that Nokia probably has a hate on for Microsoft for what MS did to the D&S division and the talented employees, but hopefully Nokia will look to service their Lumia customers by offering Windows 10 mobile devices in addition to the expected Android ones.

    My fear is that Microsoft will continue with the dull, uninspired, generic 'iPhone' style design, while Nokia will come roaring back with Fabula Design language (Lumia 920 style). Hopefully Panos will pleasantly surprise us, but nothing will change the fact that the Nokia Lumia 920 and Nokia Lumia 1520 will continue to stand among the greatest mobile devices ever made.

    I will proudly continue to use my Lumia 1520 as long as it continues to function. Such a brilliant device, yet to be equalled or surpassed (in my opinion).
    06-01-2016 05:32 PM
  8. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    Couldn't have said it better myself. I came to WP because of the Nokia's colorful and sexy hardware and MS' brilliant Metro UI. Both were unique and extremely easy on the eyes. Now it's... sigh.
    06-01-2016 07:12 PM
  9. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    You should get it if it's what you want. I had one and I loved it, except for some issues I had (maybe just bad luck). The battery life was more than good (used to last me a whole day of VERY intense use, or almost 2 of moderate use. Not sure on how it performs now with W10M). Screen is decent (black levels and viewing angles were mostly just ok, but great colors and brightness level). Camera is awesome and has a dedicated button. You can put a SD card on it. The phone simply looks so sexy and is very slim. Any color you pick is good, even black and white really stand out thanks to its "bold" design. Indeed one of the best looking Lumias, if not phones, ever.
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    06-01-2016 08:37 PM
  10. Tottee's Avatar
    Myself isn't sure yet. Because I didn't heard any news about it. Actually Microsoft Lumia is a great device. Because of it's excellent and fantastic look. I have one of it which is used by my mother.
    06-01-2016 08:47 PM
  11. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    I'm thinkig about purchasing Lumia 830. (I want decent camera for taking photos of natural details and there are phones with better than 10.7mp camera) I know it's 1 year and 8 months old but I really like old Lumia design.
    Lumia 925, 1020, 830, 800, 735 were beautiful phones and x50 line is just... trying to look like regular android? In my opinion Microsoft is trying to get android user to it's side but they'll lose old WP users (just like me). I love Windows 10 but as designer I'll never buy "ugly" phone.
    Lumia 950 XL looks a bit like Phablet version of 830 but something isn't okay... That aluminium, geometry... it just isn't like harmonical 925 design, it's not iconic 800/1020/730 design... 950xl is only acceptable but it's little bit expensive (i liked "affordable flagship" idea of 830).
    So my question is: Should I buy Lumia 830 or wait for next wave of MS Phones and hope for nice phone with "old brave" design and big camera (like 1020/830/950XL)?
    Thank You!
    Why not consider the upgrade to the 830, the 930?

    TL;DR: Almost similar design, but with better internals and screen, and a bit more bulky to make it more hefty. Unfortunately it doesn't support expandable storage (SD card) and since the screen is FHD and internals are better, the battery life is a bit poorer as a result.

    I'm an 830 user, and somehow I had wished I went with the 930. The 830 is not a bad phone, mind you. But going forward, the 930 can surely last longer than the 830 simply because it has better internals to cope with futuristic software advancement.

    Also, the cameras on the 930 (both front and back) are way better than the 830, if snapping photos is really what you're after. Sadly, the 930 doesn't support expandable storage, and the 930 only has 32GB internal storage (should be lesser when you minus the storage used for system files). However, as an 830 user with expandable 32GB microSD card, I found that I actually don't really need that much storage space. I don't play games on my phone, so there's that, and most of the storage on my phone is occupied by my music files (about 4.54GB = 695 songs) and photos (about 1GB++).

    Also the screen on the 930 is way better than the 830, and the extra heftiness of the device makes it a lot more pleasant to hold compared to the 830 (the 830 is too slim I guess. Using it while in bed makes me feel like the phone's about to slip off at any moment). Sadly the extra heftiness doesn't mean a better battery capacity. As most people have reported, the 930 have poor battery life thanks to the screen and the heavyweight internals. Also, the screen doesn't support double tap to wake (I didn't really needed this feature. I much prefer unlocking using the button).

    So, yeah. I guess you should go for the 930 if possible. It is much better, and is more future-proof than the 830 (even now, the 930 supports slow-mo capture).
    06-02-2016 07:03 AM
  12. kegare's Avatar
    Why not consider the upgrade to the 830, the 930?

    TL;DR: Almost similar design, but with better internals and screen, and a bit more bulky to make it more hefty. Unfortunately it doesn't support expandable storage (SD card) and since the screen is FHD and internals are better, the battery life is a bit poorer as a result.

    I'm an 830 user, and somehow I had wished I went with the 930. The 830 is not a bad phone, mind you. But going forward, the 930 can surely last longer than the 830 simply because it has better internals to cope with futuristic software advancement.

    Also, the cameras on the 930 (both front and back) are way better than the 830, if snapping photos is really what you're after. Sadly, the 930 doesn't support expandable storage, and the 930 only has 32GB internal storage (should be lesser when you minus the storage used for system files). However, as an 830 user with expandable 32GB microSD card, I found that I actually don't really need that much storage space. I don't play games on my phone, so there's that, and most of the storage on my phone is occupied by my music files (about 4.54GB = 695 songs) and photos (about 1GB++).

    Also the screen on the 930 is way better than the 830, and the extra heftiness of the device makes it a lot more pleasant to hold compared to the 830 (the 830 is too slim I guess. Using it while in bed makes me feel like the phone's about to slip off at any moment). Sadly the extra heftiness doesn't mean a better battery capacity. As most people have reported, the 930 have poor battery life thanks to the screen and the heavyweight internals. Also, the screen doesn't support double tap to wake (I didn't really needed this feature. I much prefer unlocking using the button).

    So, yeah. I guess you should go for the 930 if possible. It is much better, and is more future-proof than the 830 (even now, the 930 supports slow-mo capture).
    Oh, I know that processor used in 930 is better, but it doesn't have that brave design like 830... I like macros and details, so i don't know i I need 20mp, but why not? Battery life is big part of decition, but... is 830's display that bad? I heard something about grayish black... I didn't know about that 830 doesn't support double tap, but since W10M I'm not using it very often (in most cases it doesn't work even on slow ring). Main detail that 830 has and 930 hasn't is that circle around camera... Now I don't know which should I buy...
    Last edited by kegare; 06-02-2016 at 07:55 AM. Reason: incorrect word
    06-02-2016 07:43 AM
  13. kegare's Avatar
    It's heartbreaking to see how Microsoft has discarded the Nokia team and everything good that came along with the Nokia acquisition.

    Nokia Lumia was single handedly responsible for the exciting couple of years that we had with Windows Phone. The phone designs were beautiful, and packed innovative features (display, camera, microphones, glance screen, double tap to wake, etc). Nokia drove further innovation on the software side of things (the various imaging apps, the first storage check app, helping bring developers to the Windows Phone platform).

    Nokia was constantly held back due to Microsoft's slow progress with the OS (the Lumia 1020 is an example). When Microsoft acquired the Devices & Services division, it was supposed to herald "the dream team". Under Microsoft, the D&S group was supposed to have the resources be able to innovate more dramatically, taking advantage of synergy with Microsoft, helping to create the ultimate marriage of Windows Phone OS + hardware.

    Remember the first year of Windows Phone 8 and Nokia's products. Lumia was constantly catching headlines, stirring positive discussion, making Android users cry out in jeliousy for Nokia hardware. Now, I can just imagine how Nokia's return to the mobile world is going to give us a bitter taste from that Android perspective circa 2012/13. Many say that the old Nokia is gone, but Nokia retained the R&D division, and even though they are not manufacturing the phones, I anticipate some truly brilliant devices will be arriving from Nokia through their new shell company.

    I imagine that Nokia probably has a hate on for Microsoft for what MS did to the D&S division and the talented employees, but hopefully Nokia will look to service their Lumia customers by offering Windows 10 mobile devices in addition to the expected Android ones.

    My fear is that Microsoft will continue with the dull, uninspired, generic 'iPhone' style design, while Nokia will come roaring back with Fabula Design language (Lumia 920 style). Hopefully Panos will pleasantly surprise us, but nothing will change the fact that the Nokia Lumia 920 and Nokia Lumia 1520 will continue to stand among the greatest mobile devices ever made.

    I will proudly continue to use my Lumia 1520 as long as it continues to function. Such a brilliant device, yet to be equalled or surpassed (in my opinion).
    Great to know that even 1520 which is pretty old still works as your daily driver. I't great to know that I'm not alone who think that sexy age is gone...
    If nokia will start making android phones with their original design (920/735; 925/1520; 1020/830) it will be realy hard to decide. I definitely don't want Android, but one day I'll need new phone and if Microsoft plans making these elegant iPhone like models I'll leave W10M... If Nokia will continue with it's sexy design, I'll hope someone will hack W10M bootloader or something and we'll see port of windows to android (I know that requires drivers & etc)
    06-02-2016 07:53 AM
  14. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    All depends on preference. I thought the 830 to be ruined by that aluminum band. I didn't like it. I prefer that angled corner design to the rounded one the 950 had, but I'll take rounded corners over light-colored metal (the 830's black version had a darker band that looked better).

    Regardless, remember that the 830 was a scam. "Affordable flagship" was a total joke, and it was more "overpriced budget device." It released in 2014, its SoC was tested to be about on-par with the 920's chip from 2012. Its internals were basically the same thing that ran in the Lumia 630 two steps below (the 730 ran it as well). Basically, all the 830 got you was the wireless charging and a better camera. It's not an impressive device, it just was marketed as much better than it really was. If all you want is a phone that looks pretty, I guess go with the 830. Then again, why even bother with the compromises of the Microsoft OS when you care more about hardware design?
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    06-02-2016 09:56 AM
  15. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    Oh, I know that processor used in 930 is better, but it doesn't have that brave design like 830... I like macros and details, so i don't know i I need 20mp, but why not? Battery life is big part of decition, but... is 830's display that bad? I heard something about grayish black... I didn't know about that 830 doesn't support double tap, but since W10M I'm not using it very often (in most cases it doesn't work even on slow ring). Main detail that 830 has and 930 hasn't is that circle around camera... Now I don't know which should I buy...

    The 830 does support double tap
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    06-02-2016 10:40 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Between 930 and 1520, I think 1520 is the better option re: SD card, Glance, battery endurance. They share the same camera. I'll be honest about my 1520, I think it lacks capability in low light and iffy lighting. 830 seems to actually be a better all around camera, except for the super close crop in that high res on 930/1520 allows for.

    Check this thread: http://forums.windowscentral.com/dev...-vs-830-a.html IMHO, it shows that 830 can shoot with the big dogs.
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    06-02-2016 03:27 PM
  17. rory753's Avatar
    I loved the 830 I had. to me, perfect size, and all the feature's i've come to enjoy in the windows platform. I also liked that it used the more meager SD 400 processor, since it did work fine for me. unfortunately, i cracked my screen, and since i bought it at the msft store with the care package, i brought it back to them and swapped it for the 950xl since they no longer stock the unlocked 830.

    the difference between the 950xl/windows 10 and the 830 is deprecation of some photo related features, while adding more video capable features. for instance, smartshot or action shot(one of my all time favorite features) is gone, but we now have slow motion video. also, no stock panorama app. Continuum is actually nice, though, and will get better with updates this summer.

    I haven't give up on the 950xl yet, but i do wish i had some of my old features from the 830. I have the mozo case for it, and it really makes it look alot nicer then what the phone came with. I agree with you on the 925 being a great looking phone(my personal favorite), and wish they simply would have updated the processor/ram rather then release the 930 or 1520.

    knowing what i know now, and looking at the 830 and the 950xl, and price were no object, i would go with the 950xl, simply because it has more capability, whether it's the camera, video, or running apps.
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    06-02-2016 05:06 PM
  18. RJ Priest's Avatar
    I'll be honest about my 1520, I think it lacks capability in low light and iffy lighting. 830 seems to actually be a better all around camera, except for the super close crop in that high res on 930/1520 allows for.
    I totally agree. The only flaw of the 1520 is the performance of the camera in low light. Super noisy & grainy in low light, looks really poor. In bright daylight, the quality of photos are excellent. Too bad that Nokia went with f2.4 instead of f2.0 (Lumia 920/925 style) with the 1520. The f2.2 lens on the Lumia 830 should produce better low light photos.
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    06-02-2016 07:44 PM
  19. earthman007's Avatar
    I loved the Nokia phones and the bright cases allowed me to find mine, if it had slipped somewhere, making it strikingly visible against drab clutter.

    The Microsoft phones have deterred me - largely the design and value weren't right for me. They've also narrowed their target market, away from the consumer segments that Nokia had, to largely really be a business handset provider. Now the wider world understands that businesses can cope with inspired designs and the people who use products prefer something that's ground breaking. We got the 950 and 950xl, after a tremendous waiting period. Many of us were real fans of the older inspiration and fantastic elements that Nokia had brought along - so it's likely that we were somewhat dismayed.

    I'm in the USA atm and considering a purchase - the 650 is more of a budget handset and seemingly capable, if a little lacking in being super-powered: it looks pretty neat and cool. The Acer Liquid is out here, it's a budget phone, $99 or so but only 5 megapixel camera, so not fit for the op's needs. I'm more tempted as it's dual sim, rather than for stunning design: it's seemingly a fairly standard look, though not ugly by any stretch.

    If Nokia did ever return to Windows phones I'm sure it would be wonderful - could they, after having their teams decimated? I'm guessing that it would be very tough. I don't know if they'd have restrictions built into any contractual terms with MS from their past interaction, but it would be likely.
    06-02-2016 07:45 PM
  20. kegare's Avatar
    Thank you, great comparison! 1520 is grat in focusing to far object but after this i think 830 can handle my needs (depth of field, macros etc.)
    @earthman007 I don't think that'll happen but i'd like to see new WP nokia... It could be fun to see how nokia can "steal" customers from MS Lumia to Nokia Lumia on the same OS... So after reading your opinions Lumia 830 will be last chance to Microsoft from me. If there'll not be "old-nokia-nice-designed" phone, I'll leave W10M. But that's future, maybe Microsoft will change their decitions and they'll slowly accept fact that Nokia's desugn was better.
    06-03-2016 01:31 AM
  21. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    Oh, I know that processor used in 930 is better, but it doesn't have that brave design like 830... I like macros and details, so i don't know i I need 20mp, but why not? Battery life is big part of decition, but... is 830's display that bad? I heard something about grayish black... I didn't know about that 830 doesn't support double tap, but since W10M I'm not using it very often (in most cases it doesn't work even on slow ring). Main detail that 830 has and 930 hasn't is that circle around camera... Now I don't know which should I buy...
    Sorry if I had confused you regarding the double tap thingy. 830 has it, 930 doesn't.
    Battery life wise, I'd say it depends on your usage, but most certainly both phones have poor battery compared to the cheaper 640XL or the rare 1520. The 830 has a measly battery life, though it definitely can last you throughout your working hours. I unplugged mine at 100% at around 7.00am, came back from school around 6-7-ish pm, and still had around 15%. While at school I usually receive an average of 18 e-mails, 30 whatsapp messages, 1 or 2 calls, lots of social media browsing (I'd say about an hour plus of browsing in between 7am-7pm. School comes first lol). That's my average use. And most of my apps are enabled in background.

    About the display. The 830's, even when off, doesn't really look black (you can tell the area of the screen apart from the navigation buttons and bezels). When you first turn the phone on (and with the typical NOKIA splash screen showing), you can clearly see that other parts of the screen is not black, and is, as you said, dark-grayish.

    Although others posted some positive news regarding the camera capability of the 830, I sometimes find it lacking, especially when I'm pixel-peeping. Believe me, the 930's camera is much more worth it compared to the 830 (especially the front one. Let your loved ones see your face better when skyping or whatever). When not cropped, it may look great. But sometimes, just because it "may look great" doesn't make it great at all, if you get what I mean.

    And why I'm recommending the 930 over other options like the 640XL or the 1520? Well, let's go about this based on your phone's criteria, (excluding battery since I've mentioned it above), and comparisons of them against the 830 (your first choice):

    1) Design:
    640XL and 1520 are larger than the 830 (5.7 and 6 inch respectively). Both does not have aluminium frame, and are quite flat, unlike 830 (830 has a bit of a curve between the screen and the aluminium frame, but not as significant as the 930's). Also, 930's size is almost similar to the 830, albeit with extra heftiness to make it more comfortable to hold.

    2) Hardware (Camera, Internals, etc).
    640XL has similar internals to the 830, but it has a slightly better camera in terms of MP (13MP+5MP). The camera is a Zeiss lens, but it has no OIS. Some people declared that the 640XL shoots better, but comparisons online shows that this is not always the case, especially in low-light situations.

    1520 and 930 both have similar specs and internals, and both are wayyyy better than the 830/640XL, making them future proof. Also, this extra internals brings about better features for the phone: passive Cortana listening, slow-motion capture.

    3) Availability
    Generally, only the 930 and the 640XL are still available easily (830 has been discontinued btw). For the 1520, it's hard to find original ones (still in an unopened package) unless you don't mind buying used ones.

    4) Problems with each phone
    930 - No SD-card support, no double tap to wake, microphone may be damaged (depends on your luck)
    640XL - Creaking issues (UNCONFIRMED)
    1520 - Ghosting (not sure if fixed), replacement parts is very rare
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    06-03-2016 09:47 AM
  22. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    Sorry if I had confused you regarding the double tap thingy. 830 has it, 930 doesn't.

    4) Problems with each phone
    930 - No SD-card support, no double tap to wake, microphone may be damaged (depends on your luck)
    930 has double tap too lol
    Only phones without proximity sensor don't. And x50 series Lumias, at least for now.
    06-03-2016 10:33 AM
  23. kegare's Avatar
    Sorry if I had confused you regarding the double tap thingy. 830 has it, 930 doesn't.
    Battery life wise, I'd say it depends on your usage, but most certainly both phones have poor battery compared to the cheaper 640XL or the rare 1520. The 830 has a measly battery life, though it definitely can last you throughout your working hours. I unplugged mine at 100% at around 7.00am, came back from school around 6-7-ish pm, and still had around 15%. While at school I usually receive an average of 18 e-mails, 30 whatsapp messages, 1 or 2 calls, lots of social media browsing (I'd say about an hour plus of browsing in between 7am-7pm. School comes first lol). That's my average use. And most of my apps are enabled in background.

    About the display. The 830's, even when off, doesn't really look black (you can tell the area of the screen apart from the navigation buttons and bezels). When you first turn the phone on (and with the typical NOKIA splash screen showing), you can clearly see that other parts of the screen is not black, and is, as you said, dark-grayish.

    Although others posted some positive news regarding the camera capability of the 830, I sometimes find it lacking, especially when I'm pixel-peeping. Believe me, the 930's camera is much more worth it compared to the 830 (especially the front one. Let your loved ones see your face better when skyping or whatever). When not cropped, it may look great. But sometimes, just because it "may look great" doesn't make it great at all, if you get what I mean.

    And why I'm recommending the 930 over other options like the 640XL or the 1520? Well, let's go about this based on your phone's criteria, (excluding battery since I've mentioned it above), and comparisons of them against the 830 (your first choice):

    1) Design:
    640XL and 1520 are larger than the 830 (5.7 and 6 inch respectively). Both does not have aluminium frame, and are quite flat, unlike 830 (830 has a bit of a curve between the screen and the aluminium frame, but not as significant as the 930's). Also, 930's size is almost similar to the 830, albeit with extra heftiness to make it more comfortable to hold.

    2) Hardware (Camera, Internals, etc).
    640XL has similar internals to the 830, but it has a slightly better camera in terms of MP (13MP+5MP). The camera is a Zeiss lens, but it has no OIS. Some people declared that the 640XL shoots better, but comparisons online shows that this is not always the case, especially in low-light situations.

    1520 and 930 both have similar specs and internals, and both are wayyyy better than the 830/640XL, making them future proof. Also, this extra internals brings about better features for the phone: passive Cortana listening, slow-motion capture.

    3) Availability
    Generally, only the 930 and the 640XL are still available easily (830 has been discontinued btw). For the 1520, it's hard to find original ones (still in an unopened package) unless you don't mind buying used ones.

    4) Problems with each phone
    930 - No SD-card support, no double tap to wake, microphone may be damaged (depends on your luck)
    640XL - Creaking issues (UNCONFIRMED)
    1520 - Ghosting (not sure if fixed), replacement parts is very rare
    Thank you, these are very useful informations. I find 830 design best, but that camera thing may be main reason to choose.
    About avaibility... I'm from slovakia (middle of europe) and all of 1520/930/830 are pretty avaible on internet and new (On one side it's sad, but we can buy new phones with normal price too!) and about 1520 it can be useful to have no replacement parts - laws in europe union works like this: warranty is 2 years long and when I have issue, I can send phone to shop (if phone is from slovak shop, shiping is paid by them) and if they can't send me working phone back in 30 days (and waranty isn't void ofcourse) they must return me price i paid = I'll can buy now phone if they can't fix it in 30 days.
    But i want colorful phone and original packages od 1520 are only in black/white (310€/351$). it hasn't detachable cover, but 930 has! Am I right? One slovak web said that no but then I saw this Green 930 costs 135$ more just because color...really? white 930 costs 289€/327$ so if I can change back cover it's new candidate. Lumia 830 costs 200€/226$ which is really less than 289€/327$ but if camera is better, future-proof, slow-motion capture... I can live without double-tap (nothinh depends on cortana - she isn't avaible in my country; I don't need more than 32GB storage and I'm doing backup every 14 days) but now I'm really thinking about spending more for 930 (It's old so with luck I can do my "plan" with 1520 with 930 too if something happens and I'll need repair).
    06-03-2016 10:34 AM
  24. Sab2468's Avatar
    I have a lumia 830 and bought it 2 months after launch. Personally I bought it because of the design, because i'm just a design person I suppose! I wanted it in orange with the silver metal around it, but EE, my carrier didn't sell it so I had to stick with the black, which felt different as I owned a cyan Lumia 520 before. I sort of just love how metal, glass (camera) and poly carbonate reflects light and feels different you know? I think its the most beautiful lumia ever and loads of people commented on it weirdly cuz of alot of people don't usually comment on a Windows Phone lol . In terms of hardware, i think its okay, not slow or anything I was on the windows 8.1 and went on the Insider Preview but it got bricked just last week so I used WDRT to get it back, so i was back on to 8.1 and then updated to the official Windows 10 Mobile. Battery wise, its good but its dropped just a bit after on Windows 10 Mobile but screen flickers black sometimes (used to happen on the WIP and the official update). I'm waiting for the surface phone like a keano cuz i'm not impressed by the design of the 950 and 950 xl so I think you should wait cuz "it will definitely be worth the wait" . Hope this helped! :)
    06-03-2016 01:10 PM
  25. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    930 has double tap too lol
    Only phones without proximity sensor don't. And x50 series Lumias, at least for now.
    eh really? Wait, then was it the glance screen missing on the 930? I'm quite confused now lol~

    And sorry, I was typing all of these info based on what I know, and I'm clearly in the wrong :(
    06-04-2016 12:09 AM
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