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  1. RyanOnWindows10's Avatar
    It is a statement that MS has lost the mobile war, but we Windows fans can also make a statement, by not buying it, in protest of Microsoft's decision to sell it instead of focusing development dollars into W10M.
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    04-03-2017 10:17 AM
  2. davebwi's Avatar
    It's a good thing. Be confident in your product. Show you are the system to run across all devices. Now I almost died thinking they might have gotten an S8 to run Win 10 mobile, haha. But still MS is the only one with the ability to say "our stuff, even Cortana runs on any platform you the user choose". That's a lot stronger statement of confidence than people give MS credit for. Apple would be smart to allow the same thing. They won't but this alone shows Samsung is smarter. You wouldn't hesitate to run an Xbox on a Samsung TV right? MS stores are a place to show off a lot of technology and get help, questions answered and handle technology hands on. That is empowering the future, whether it's hardware by Lenovo, HP, Dell or MS. They all have value and for every device there is some customer out there who is looking for exactly what that device offers. All should be welcome.
    Can anyone confirm if it is the Unlocked S8? Like what Best Buy is to be carrying?
    Thanks, Dave
    04-03-2017 10:21 AM
  3. brunoadduarte's Avatar
    I honestly don't really see the point in it. You can always buy the phone elsewhere and install the apps yourself... Making it so that there isn't a differentiating feature between the two versions. Kinda redundant, IMHO.

    However, it does make me wonder why is MS wasting time with this instead of actually caring for its in house mobile OS...
    eddieDOTexe and Saeglopur89 like this.
    04-03-2017 10:36 AM
  4. naddy69's Avatar
    What would you think if MS stores were selling Macs?

    It clearly means that Windows Phones are dead. Microsoft failed in the mobile market - tablets, phones and MP3 players - because they were WAY too late to get there. Yes, I realize the Surface "tablets" are a success, but they are a niche product. For me - and most users - its too big for a tablet and too small for a laptop. It will never replace both for the vast majority of users.

    As cool as Windows phones were, it is past time to move on. I have a 920, an Icon and two 1520s (one of which is an unlocked .3 model with wireless charging). I just sold an Icon on Ebay, and I may well sell the other. I will keep the 1520s, as I like the size.

    But I also have a company-issued Galaxy S6, and I have an S7 Edge coming today (price drop since the S8s were announced). Windows phones are not even offered by the company, just Iphones and Galaxies, even though everything else is Windows at this company.

    Microsoft will be fine, however. Their enterprise/cloud/SQL Server business is thriving. Laptops and desktops will not go away, as there are many things you simply cannot do on a phone - nor would I want to even if I could. Windows will continue to dominate here, the clumsy "free giveaway" of Windows 10 notwithstanding.

    The whole Continuum/Dex thing is also a very niche product. "Modular" computing is NOT the future. We already had that in the 80s with TRS-80s and Apple 2s. Turns out that people don't want a bunch of gadgets and cables. Once box and 1 power cord is what sells.
    jmshub and eddieDOTexe like this.
    04-03-2017 10:44 AM
  5. Vincent McLaughlin's Avatar
    Considering that that Samsung isn't Google, I don't know if this question rely applies to this phone. Now, if Google had a Microsoft edition of the Nexus, that would be a different story. To answer that, I highly doubt Google would ever do such a thing.
    04-03-2017 10:57 AM
  6. Justin Reed8's Avatar
    Probably already been said, but I just with MS had convinced Samsung to make a Windows Phone version of the S8. That would be much more interesting as it's a beautiful phone.
    04-03-2017 10:58 AM
  7. meattray's Avatar
    Probably already been said, but I just with MS had convinced Samsung to make a Windows Phone version of the S8. That would be much more interesting as it's a beautiful phone.
    Maybe someday. Samsung has always been willing to try things so maybe if theirs partnership continues we could see a Samsung reiteration at some point.
    04-03-2017 11:05 AM
  8. evillama's Avatar
    Launcher that closely mimics or just looks like Windows Phone Tiles would be a great first step in pulling people over. Much as I'm embedded in the MS ecosystem, if this S8 had SquareHome preinstalled (and blessed by MS) I may have considered it as a 950 replacement.
    04-03-2017 11:13 AM
  9. ronhadas's Avatar
    As my wife said, well darling, why don't you just wait for the 10, so it would go perfectly with Windows 10....
    Saeglopur89 likes this.
    04-03-2017 11:23 AM
  10. BlackSheriff84's Avatar
    So what's the difference between the Microsoft edition and the regular S8?
    04-03-2017 11:24 AM
  11. Bobarino777's Avatar
    This is a great move for Microsoft.
    I'm glad they are looking to the future of mobile.
    04-03-2017 11:35 AM
  12. Tom Westrick's Avatar
    Launcher that closely mimics or just looks like Windows Phone Tiles would be a great first step in pulling people over. Much as I'm embedded in the MS ecosystem, if this S8 had SquareHome preinstalled (and blessed by MS) I may have considered it as a 950 replacement.
    Why would that any different than just downloading the launcher on your own?
    04-03-2017 11:40 AM
  13. Curtis Webb's Avatar
    This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
    04-03-2017 11:40 AM
  14. evillama's Avatar
    Why would that any different than just downloading the launcher on your own?
    True, could be the same. As I'm not familiar with Android, not sure what it takes. Guess the fact that this whole "MS Edition" idea came about, it made it seem like this would be easier if it was added on.
    04-03-2017 11:46 AM
  15. Bruno Coutinho1's Avatar
    This is the only way for Microsoft to sell smartphones.

    Maybe some people will actually enter MS Stores now.
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 11:51 AM
  16. MrElectrifyer's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 edition phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    I think it's an affirmation of what I've stated several times before; microsoft doesn't take their mobile platform seriously at the moment, and you're merely being used as their b*tch the more you stick with their mobile platform.

    Maybe in the later future we'll see a Surface Phone changing everything like the Surface Pro did in the Tablet space. But until that future arrives, you're much better off on a competitor platform instead of continuously being microshafted..
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 11:57 AM
  17. Tom Westrick's Avatar
    True, could be the same. As I'm not familiar with Android, not sure what it takes. Guess the fact that this whole "MS Edition" idea came about, it made it seem like this would be easier if it was added on.
    Any launcher downloaded from the Google Play Store can be used as the default home screen on your device, and you will never see the original launcher again unless you choose to. The only difference between having it built in and having to download is a few taps; there's no functional difference.
    04-03-2017 12:01 PM
  18. remmo's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 edition phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    MS wants everyone to move away from W10M as soon as possible, so they can kill it right away, then pay less money to Dona Sarkar.
    Everything is about money.
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 12:03 PM
  19. hamphlet's Avatar
    Makes the already microscopically slim hopes of a Surface Phone almost none existent.
    04-03-2017 12:08 PM
  20. Mars2003's Avatar
    It obviously doesn't matter what we think, we covered that last week.
    HP on the other hand I could imagine being a little pissed. It's the perceived undermining of and lack of confidence in it's own OS that damages one of MS's key partners that's the problem here.
    Every move MS has made in mobile over the past 2/3 years has made it that little bit harder for them to be successful in the future. The cumulative effect of this undermining has gone past the point of no return Imo.
    Last edited by Mars2003; 04-04-2017 at 06:35 AM.
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 12:12 PM
  21. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    "Samsung S8 Microsoft edition"

    I think that they should have just released a S8 running full Windows 10 Mobile. If they actually did that, that would seriously help Windows phones sales, given the brand name and advertising power Samsung has.
    04-03-2017 12:14 PM
  22. koenshaku's Avatar
    Well after reading the article I looked to my Lumia 950 and wondered about the future of the platform. A move like this isn't inspiring faith among users that decided to stick with the platform for the long run and at the same time makes sense from a business prospective 1.5 billion active android devices and maybe an optimistic 20 million windows mobile devices that is as the CEO said not sustainable. I like windows mobile as much as the next avid reader here, but a superior UI and services can only go so far if 3rd apps keep dropping support it will only be a matter of time before you buy that fitness band and don't have proper support or that DSLR that you can't wirelessly transfer pictures to or that incompatible selfie stick that pushes you over the edge.

    I personally don't need much on my smartphone I don't care for trendy apps like snapchat, there is a 3rd app that is better than the Nikon app for iOS and android for my DSLR, I still have an MS Band my upgrade will hopefully have equivalent functionality with the GATT support like every other platform. Things continue to drag, but look rewarding for those with fewer needs than the competition and enjoy their seemless UI experience. My biggest gripe is the hardware that hasn't really seen a refresh since 2015 from MS, the silence and the maps MS maps couldn't suck any harder than they do already I'm considering purchasing Sygic. >_>
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 12:27 PM
  23. EliteMikes's Avatar
    It is a statement that MS has lost the mobile war, but we Windows fans can also make a statement, by not buying it, in protest of Microsoft's decision to sell it instead of focusing development dollars into W10M.
    The only person you'd be hurting is yourself. The platform is dead for now. Maybe it comes back strong and maybe it doesn't.
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 12:31 PM
  24. EliteMikes's Avatar
    "Samsung S8 Microsoft edition"

    I think that they should have just released a S8 running full Windows 10 Mobile. If they actually did that, that would seriously help Windows phones sales, given the brand name and advertising power Samsung has.

    That's a load of crap, all this would do is give existing fans some new hardware and not grow the platform at all.
    04-03-2017 12:32 PM
  25. evillama's Avatar
    @ZacB...so we know how MS tools function on an iPhone, will you be coming up with an Android review soon? That could be the deal breaker here...
    04-03-2017 12:35 PM
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