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  1. Yangstax's Avatar
    Then they should sell all phones with pre-loaded MS apps.
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    04-03-2017 12:46 PM
  2. Maracucho Tejas's Avatar
    Haha, I know. That will be the day, and Steve Jobs would wake up and dance a jig I guess. The point was that Microsoft has obviously partnered with Samsung. A new tablet also awaits in every Microsoft store made by Samsung now too. There's a deal in there somewhere.
    They already do this...no joke. I was in the Microsoft Store in The Woodlands mall recently (Houston area) and they have a display set up with an iPhone and iPad with all of the Microsoft apps installed and are showcasing Microsoft services on Apple.
    libra89 and nate0 like this.
    04-03-2017 12:49 PM
  3. dlalonde's Avatar
    It's a great move for the moment being. They don't have phones anymore. They have some in the wild sure but they've had nothing new in the last year and a half. They are apparently working on something but we're in the second quarter of the year and nothing is about to be announced. So hooking up with a company like Samsung on Android is the best way to get their services to more people in the meantime.

    Don't forget that Microsoft's focus is now services. That's how they'll make their money in the future. That's why they're giving Windows 10 for free and putting ads in it for its services.

    Plus if their future phone is business oriented like it seems to be the case according to the rumours, then a partnership with the biggest selling Android phone company on its biggest selling model is a no brainer.
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    04-03-2017 01:57 PM
  4. gemini5150's Avatar
    I guess its good for brand awareness. I feel if you like windows mobile you have it. If you don't know of it, you probably won't switch anyway. So why not get people into the use of Microsoft services. Then when (if) they make a surface phone, people may hear its the best way to use the Microsoft services. Its just a way to keep the name relevant and make the big push when its right. windows mobile now is not what the majority of people want. So people should not feel betrayed, Its kind of like the Trojan horse analogy
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:17 PM
  5. passin's Avatar
    If Microsoft is really working on a next gen cellular device, wouldn't support for last gen no longer really compete with them? Therefore supporting desktop like experience would only push people towards their full desktop on phone experience in the long term once they realize how useful it is. Add in more nifty features that you are able to pull from the devices you used to help support and wrap them into your future design and all of a sudden the people that wouldn't switch before would have less reasons to not switch now. I keep thinking of this like a long term chess game. Microsoft needs to get things lined up now to show their features where people currently reside. In the future they will pull the pin, let their OS lose on the market again. Sounds somewhat far fetched for what Microsoft has done in the past and may not even work in the long run but at least it is an idea.
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:22 PM
  6. JVendetta7's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    welp looks like its time to change back to android. phones are better, UI is still crap compared to windows but now windows is making it easier to leave their mobile since i can get native windows apps and cortana?!!? and wayyyyy more apps... like just be honest windows and say your not going to be supporting mobile anymore.
    jmshub likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:29 PM
  7. Mike Semblance's Avatar
    If only it would dual boot to android, like my CHUWI Hi10 Pro, I would consider it. I could run Windows day and night, and then switch to android for that odd app.
    jmshub likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:31 PM
  8. jmshub's Avatar
    Android is the new Windows. It's the single most used computing platform in the world. It would benefit Microsoft to make sure everybody knows about the products and services that they offer on the platform. Furthermore, if you find yourself in the position of being a Windows Phone user, and unhappy about the experience, this could be a good package for you. You can switch to Android, but still access all the services that you used on your Windows device.

    It's a lemonade out of lemons kind of situation, but after their recent handling of Windows Mobile, I don't see any case in which Microsoft could currently draw a user base that would even compete with the best days of Windows Phone, let alone any magical 10% that we looked for in years past.
    libra89 likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:36 PM
  9. dov1978's Avatar
    Would you want a Google edition W10 Phone?? With official google services (YouTube, maps, drive etc..)

    ... !!
    If only. It would be a resounding YES from me
    aximtreo likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:37 PM
  10. nate0's Avatar
    They already do this...no joke. I was in the Microsoft Store in The Woodlands mall recently (Houston area) and they have a display set up with an iPhone and iPad with all of the Microsoft apps installed and are showcasing Microsoft services on Apple.
    Ya, I know. Androids are at the store local to me. Did not see any iPhones yet. So like we said, it would not be surprising if they move the next step at some point, like with the S8. However Apple is a whole other playing field unlike another OEM (Samsung).
    04-03-2017 02:52 PM
  11. pallentx's Avatar
    I don't really see the point. I can install 5-6 apps in a matter of minutes by searching "Microsoft" in the store.
    Now, if the "de-Googled" it and had it running a WP style launcher and an alternative store like Amazon has done, I might be interested.
    eddieDOTexe likes this.
    04-03-2017 02:53 PM
  12. Jarrick Finkley's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    I honestly think it's genius. Windows phone is no longer a thing in most peoples minds. Even when Microsoft finally releases it's mobile surface device, it will be in a lane of it's own. Why shouldn't Microsoft support the most popular mobile OS-es. This way, IOS and Android can make Microsoft/Windows 10 relevant to the people who aren't interested in Surface.
    04-03-2017 02:59 PM
  13. QuietNine's Avatar
    I think this is a good move. Lumia owners know what they are: beta testers for whatever the next thing to come is.

    For the masses: Every time I visit the Microsoft store, its busy with people messing with SurfaceBooks, Surface Pros and Xbox stuff, but other than the staff very few are picking up the phones to see what Microsoft is doing in mobile.

    If all of a sudden Microsoft has phones people recognize, that gives them a better opportunity to show off Microsoft's own mobile services, and thats important for keeping services like Cortana, Office, Bing and whatever comes next relevant.
    aximtreo likes this.
    04-03-2017 03:07 PM
  14. aximtreo's Avatar
    Would you want a Google edition W10 Phone?? With official google services (YouTube, maps, drive etc..)

    ... !!
    Yes, but not at the price it's being sold for. Maybe in a few months when my iPhone bugs out.
    04-03-2017 03:08 PM
  15. cheetahwig1's Avatar
    Not happy that Android has surpassed Windows in worldwide usage, and not happy that Microsoft hasn't used its resources to fight back in any effective way. I love my Windows Phone (950XL) and go back to pre-6.5, but the apps I want and need just aren't here. My Band 2 crapped out, and there's nothing that works well with WP, although there are literally 100's of smartphones out there that work with iOS and Android. I'm looking at the Sony Xperia XZ Premium because it has a better camera than the Galaxy (19mb compared to just 13mb) along with an 835 Snapdragon CPU and 4k screen. Guess I'll have to switch when it comes out (and add the MS apps manually). Another one bites the dust...
    Player Piano likes this.
    04-03-2017 03:16 PM
  16. passin's Avatar
    I whole heartedly agree with this. Microsoft giving its blessings to Samsung's docking solution is only a slap in the face to HP, who has done all they could to push Windows Mobile into the enterprise world. Now they will be left out in the cold while Enterprise sticks with their Android and iOS ways since they will also have the features that made Windows Mobile stand out. How will any other manufacture take Microsoft seriously if they waiver like this every time? I'm sure people have to be getting tired of this. HTC obviously was, there were companies before them and I'm sure more to follow that will dump this platform completely. All it would have taken was the ability to stand behind your own product fully instead of only putting a leg behind it and opening the door to trip it out.
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    04-03-2017 04:00 PM
  17. Avatar of Apathy's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    I understand that we are the ones on the dead platform, but this almost feels like a slap in the face.
    04-03-2017 04:27 PM
  18. Z51Corvete's Avatar
    the only thing acceptable is a Samsung S8 running w10 is the only way you get a Samsung to run right
    nate0 likes this.
    04-03-2017 04:53 PM
  19. Eric Hamilton's Avatar
    So, I am thinking this must be the "ultimate mobile device" that Satya Nadella was talking about. Now he can say... "Done and DONE!!"
    04-03-2017 05:16 PM
  20. Saeglopur89's Avatar
    This is a small but final decision which states that they are not pushing their own mobile OS at all. MS just let Office on Android without any deal with Google - they could easily trade that for basic Google support at Windows phones.

    Really I'm more and more worried with W10M as my main phone (main because for some time you just have to use iOS or Android at the same time :/ ). If they will show some ultra expensive and bulky Surface Phone it will be the end. Without anything for mass users whole platform will lose it's traction eventually. I'm still impressed that we have so many apps and from time to time something new is showing up - for who?! :O For all of us? 9 users world wide?
    04-03-2017 05:45 PM
  21. Vincent Ryan's Avatar
    Microsoft is a business, it makes business sense to have their apps on as many devices and platforms as possible, personally I will use a Windows phone a long as they are available, simply because I don't like how Android or iOS function as a mobile OS, Windows works for me and I like being the only person in the room with a unique phone!
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    04-03-2017 05:49 PM
  22. eddieDOTexe's Avatar
    "We're sorry for what Windows 10 Mobile has become. As an apology, we'll sell you a great piece of hardware with our great software that will follow you over."
    This is pretty much what it feels like.
    Although it may be that they're rubbing Samsung's back in hopes of a W10 powered S8 being made. I'm sure Samsung wouldn't mind if MS did all the work lol
    04-03-2017 06:29 PM
  23. tropolite's Avatar
    I really don't get this decision at all... selling Android phones, UNLESS they are getting ready to announce what they were rumoured to be doing some time ago by making a device dual bootable Win10/Android. This I would understand and if this is being revealed at Build or some other announcement - friggin' awesome.

    Otherwise, why stop there. Get some veggies, Hush Puppy loafers, Timex watches and make it the new 24/7 convenience store. I mean really. This isn't going to draw Android users in or iOS users for that matter... they will see it as Microsoft screwing over their customers yet again, and this is one of the big reasons why they 'hate on' Microsoft. You've all seen it. It doesn't matter what it is, there is a deep 'dislike' media and consumers have for Microsoft and we know it's unjustified. But this is the sort of gameplay they see on the surface and make up their minds that Microsoft isn't to be trusted or reputable.

    I may be completely off here but I've seen and heard it myself numbers of times to do with consumers and Microsoft.
    04-03-2017 06:56 PM
  24. jwinch2's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?

    Feels like they are admitting that it's over, which sucks, because even incomplete, Win10Mobile is a better OS than either iOS or Android. I just don't like them. I really wish MS would go all in, but they don't seem to want to.
    04-03-2017 07:23 PM
  25. fresh12's Avatar
    Give it a try
    04-03-2017 07:29 PM
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