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  1. jayblazer's Avatar
    Well mine is preordered. When the S8+ was announced I thought it was a beautiful device "BUT" I am a windows guy. Then the announcement of the windows edition hit and I see it as a white flag. If Microsoft brings something interesting to the table I will be back but until then wish me luck with my first android since 2009.
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    04-03-2017 07:32 PM
  2. Luuthian's Avatar
    This is probably for the best... For everyone. If Samsung not only has an interest in the phone to PC space, but is somehow capable of doing it BETTER than MS, then having MS embrace that in its entirety is good news for everyone. Microsoft can focus on what they do best and Samsung can complete the other half of the picture.

    I mean really, does it matter what OS a person runs these days? Google had the right vision first: the internet is the future platform of everything. Aside from the profits of hardware sales Microsoft can only harm itself by pursuing Windows mobile in its current state. Teaming up with Samsung, instead, to ensure that Android users are introduced to MS's productivity suite off the bat was the right plan.

    This move is a breath of fresh air. Microsoft becoming as platform agnostic as possible is a gift. I realize they can't embrace that move fully (and MANY of us will need Windows for a long time no matter what Dex can do) but it's a perfect step in the right direction for their mobile services.
    04-03-2017 07:55 PM
  3. eryker's Avatar
    Nadella is a moron. I hope ICE come knocking on his door soon. He isn't a Windows Phone fan, there's a fine balance between pragmatism and conviction and he's just a long line of politically correct, lily-livered, spineless, one-big-happy-family-let's-all-get-along-together CEO's that seem to be the norm these days. It's been two years since we've had a new Windows Phone and the ***** isn't listening.
    04-03-2017 08:11 PM
  4. nate0's Avatar
    I'm not certain on what all the huss and fuss is about. It is not running Windows and it is still an Android device. Android. I t runs android apps, and uses a linux kernel. Still the same Samsung type of device we see once a year. Just a little bigger and even more expensive.

    To me it just is not the same without a Windows OS plain and simple. I am not Microsoft so they are going to do whatever they want to do in their stores. I still have W10M phone, still running the latest OS and still getting updates so for now I see nothing different.
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    04-03-2017 08:46 PM
  5. mayconvert's Avatar
    I wish Microsoft would embrace an Android base so that it can instantly have millions of apps, but put a Really Good Microsoft "skin" on top, and make All Microsoft services Native defaults. Windows mobile OS will always be the best OS there ever was on a phone, but with no apps, it will never go anywhere. Stick a fork in WP, it's done.
    Samsung takes Android OS and makes it VERY Samsung with a tizen "skin" and all Samsung apps are defaults even though there are google apps on the phone as well
    Microsoft should just run with it but take it a LOT further than a S8 with pre installed MS apps.
    blackberry did this, MS should too since WP is dead. There is Not going to be a Surface phone. it will still have NO APPS.
    The iPhone with MS apps preinstalled will never happen. With iOS, you can't set native apps like you can on android.
    So Cortana, Bing maps etc can be installed, but as soon as you bring up Siri etc. it will always go to Apples native apps. Also, every time you wiped the iPhone and reinstalled the OS, it would just default back to apple and erase the MS apps.
    So, embrace what you can and make it your own Microsoft.
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    04-03-2017 08:50 PM
  6. cyan1two's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    Why is MS being so secretive? It is better for them to come out in the open and tell us what they are up to. It would wise for them to tell the world that they are out of making phones let alone smartphones on the windows platform. Then we would decide what to do next and where to go for our next smart phones. It is not doing them any good both the windows phone fans and manufacturers. As you have asked ask this question, ask MS as well we need to hear what their take is. My Nokia Lumia 1520 is aging I need a good new smart phone from MS.
    Cyan1two
    04-03-2017 08:57 PM
  7. AZTonyUSA's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    I'm with you. Unhappy as well. I'm a long time WP user from back when it was WinMobile. Now using the 950XL. Seems to me MS is doing more for android and iPhone users then it's own users and platform. I hear their apps work more efficiently and smoother on the other platforms, that really irks me. I'm getting tired with the phone freezing up and randomly rebooting for no reason. Edge sucks as well. Ever try to copy and paste something on facebook.com? Good luck with that!!! I'll probably be going to android for my next phone. I'm not holding my breath on a Surface phone coming out any time soon. Like a father would say to his kid when they do something wrong, MS I'm not mad at you, I'm disappointed in you, for not supporting the best OS out there.
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    04-03-2017 10:54 PM
  8. WinCoder's Avatar
    As a long time developer of Windows Phone apps, this is a bit of a F@¢k you from Microsoft for all my years of support as they repeatedly restarted their efforts.

    I would be a little less upset if there were every current model of Windows Mobile device available in any store that carries the competitors devices, but i know that won't be the case.
    04-03-2017 11:19 PM
  9. WinCoder's Avatar
    I won't use a phone that a ten year old with fifty bucks can get all my data from... Also wont use Google anything because I'd like to be able to decide what i share.
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    04-03-2017 11:22 PM
  10. WinCoder's Avatar
    Imagine if Google was, instead of a huge company, a single person who tracked everything you did, followed you around, tracking everything you did, where you went, who you talked to. There is a term for that... Stalker. I am sure as hell not paying a thousand dollars to get my own stalker.

    If you don't believe me, Wireshark your device one day or if you can get one, get a wireless data sniffer from the internet, you'll be surprised what you're sharing
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    04-03-2017 11:26 PM
  11. Allan Breum's Avatar
    Doesn't have Win10M on it.
    Not interested.
    04-03-2017 11:32 PM
  12. evillama's Avatar
    Imagine if Google was, instead of a huge company, a single person who tracked everything you did, followed you around, tracking everything you did, where you went, who you talked to. There is a term for that... Stalker. I am sure as hell not paying a thousand dollars to get my own stalker.

    If you don't believe me, Wireshark your device one day or if you can get one, get a wireless data sniffer from the internet, you'll be surprised what you're sharing
    Interesting as this is giving me second thoughts. Are we certain that our W10M phones are much more secure? or is it that we're the 0.01% so nobody is caring to hack us?
    04-03-2017 11:34 PM
  13. mayconvert's Avatar
    if you want privacy, get an iPhone. if you want bells and whistles, get an android.
    If you want a phone with no future, keep the windows phone.

    With a .01% market share, MS is just going to stop spending money on the OS.
    Surface Phone isn't real, never will be. Even if it came out tomorrow, it would have No Apps.
    99% of windows apps are Terrible web wraps, or are 10% of their iOS and Android versions.
    Developers put ZERO effort into their apps and it shows. Even the starbucks app, from a BIG company is Horrible compared to the iOS version.
    Even Microsoft Edge is a laughable JOKE of a web browser.
    As an iOS and Android users, I can assure you, windows apps (other than cortana) are 10X better than they are on WP.
    This new S8 windows edition will likely sell more units in a month than the 950/XL (combined) did since release.
    Last edited by mayconvert; 04-04-2017 at 10:56 AM.
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    04-03-2017 11:55 PM
  14. HM84's Avatar
    Would you want a Google edition W10 Phone?? With official google services (YouTube, maps, drive etc..)

    ... !!
    I'm not sure whether your question is served with a pinch of cynicism, but I would answer either way: Yes. The services of the internet are best delivered to everyone in equal measure, or as close as possible

    That means that, just as MS give their services to iOS and Android users, Google should deliver their maps services (still superiour to MS maps by the way) to WM users as well as they do to iOS users. The operative word here is should

    Mind you that is not the same as asking Apple to add their maps, but that's because they never stepped out of their front yard with it in the first place. Google, however, did
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    04-03-2017 11:56 PM
  15. Anthony Fenner's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    You have to follow Microsoft closely when you buy one of their products. They dump projects on the daily. Not to mention that their creativity is well... Boring. Be thankful you're being pushed towards Android. It has the highest sales, meaning that when Microsoft stops updating their apps, you have Google to fall back on.
    04-04-2017 12:06 AM
  16. Anthony Fenner's Avatar
    Microsoft will be missing out on user data collection as all OS' are really a businesses way to understand your interactions, and market to you based on those needs. Not to mention their cut on the entire app store. Most people are already using their apps on Android if they had planned on it, so from my point of view, if they are not coming out with anything new or special, expect sales to be lackluster.

    I'll be waiting to hear the specific apps they add to the phone. If I want the experience, I will add them myself to my current Android phone.
    04-04-2017 12:35 AM
  17. Jcmg62's Avatar
    I suspect this is nothing more than two tech firms working symbiotically and showing that rival firms don't need to tear each other to death in a courtroom to survive.

    Samsung build tablets and laptops that run Windows 10 as a show of support for the Microsoft platform. And Microsoft, in return, develop software that compliments the Samsung mobile ecosystem.

    What does this mean for Windows 10 Mobile? God knows. In fact, I don't even think Microsoft has much of a handle on that question.
    04-04-2017 04:20 AM
  18. hdtvchris's Avatar
    Maybe they are "testing the market". Until MS puts a nail on the mobile coffin, and shuts it down 100% I'm sticking with native Win Phone.
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    04-04-2017 06:50 AM
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    04-04-2017 10:36 AM
  20. Vishca's Avatar
    The response to this post has been interesting and has widened my way of viewing the move Microsoft has made. As a software/business move it makes sense, but as many have rightly stated many of the Windows apps were already available to Android and iOS. However I'm still unhappy and feel Microsoft has lost it's way. As silly as it may sound,I feel like ,I've been traded in by Microsoft for an Android user.
    Last edited by Vishca; 04-04-2017 at 01:42 PM. Reason: typo
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    04-04-2017 01:01 PM
  21. Luuthian's Avatar
    I wish Microsoft would embrace an Android base so that it can instantly have millions of apps, but put a Really Good Microsoft "skin" on top, and make All Microsoft services Native defaults. Windows mobile OS will always be the best OS there ever was on a phone, but with no apps, it will never go anywhere. Stick a fork in WP, it's done.
    Samsung takes Android OS and makes it VERY Samsung with a tizen "skin" and all Samsung apps are defaults even though there are google apps on the phone as well
    Microsoft should just run with it but take it a LOT further than a S8 with pre installed MS apps.
    blackberry did this, MS should too since WP is dead. There is Not going to be a Surface phone. it will still have NO APPS.
    The iPhone with MS apps preinstalled will never happen. With iOS, you can't set native apps like you can on android.
    So Cortana, Bing maps etc can be installed, but as soon as you bring up Siri etc. it will always go to Apples native apps. Also, every time you wiped the iPhone and reinstalled the OS, it would just default back to apple and erase the MS apps.
    So, embrace what you can and make it your own Microsoft.

    This, so much this. No one is asking them to dump Windows. Just make it so that an Android base Windows phone integrates with Windows 10 as seamlessly as possible. Will it kill the MS Store? Not entirely. Just make sure and Android version of the store exists like Samsung has. Or embrace Google Play initially just to get some actual adopters and flip them into the MS Store later somehow.

    Does this also undermine the one kernel philosophy? Kinda, but not really. It's pretty clear that Windows as a Phone is toast. Android is the route to go with until they can figure out how they want to cram actual windows into a cellular device. In the meantime that one kernel will be great for everyone with a Surface or Xbox etc.

    It just makes sense. They can virtualized Windows as needed.
    04-04-2017 02:01 PM
  22. RMenz's Avatar
    Just read that Microsoft will sell Samsung S8 "Microsoft edition", phone in their stores, Microsoft edition iphone deal also agreed. These phones will not run W10 but will run their native OS respectively, but will be installed with Microsoft apps, such as office,skype etc. As a long time supporter of the windows phone platform I'm not happy.What do you all think?
    I think it is sacrilege in one way. In a desperate bid to sell and make big sales figures for the apps MS is just letting its rival platform take the cake from its own stores while they enjoy a tiny slice of it. It is also an open admission of defeat of the WM10 platform. Which is withering by the day. Being a former user/ fan of WP8.1 I feel really disappointed to see this. Well MS deserves all the humiliation for not putting enough effort behind the ever evolving touch based mobile world right from the start.
    04-04-2017 02:06 PM
  23. HM84's Avatar
    The response to this post has been interesting and has widened my way of viewing the move Microsoft has made. As a software/business move it makes sense, but as many have rightly stated many of the Windows apps were already available to Android and iOS. However I'm still unhappy and feel Microsoft has lost it's way. As silly as it may sound,I feel like ,I've been traded in by Microsoft for an Android user.
    As silly as you sound, you are absolutely right.

    I, for one, am worried about taking my next step when buying a phone. If we are going down the Android road, let us make it official the way Blackberry did. Every step has been done so unceremoniously that the user base for WM is now largely divided between the Surface Phone zealots and those who just gave up, simply because no one really knows where MS stand.

    If MS decide to take this road, I hope that at the very least, we can retain some features that we may otherwise lose by dropping our Windows phones. Off the top of my head, I would really miss the integration feature it has with Win10 PCs. It's all good and well that you have your apps in other ecosystems, but it would be a shame to have something going for you that you just drop later on.
    04-05-2017 12:15 AM
  24. HM84's Avatar
    http://www.windowscentral.com/using-...axy-s8-windows

    Just realized there is an article posted here that explains how to make use of an S8 with Windows, and I am sold. As soon as my Lumia dies (so probably by the time the Galaxy S9 rolls out) I will likely jump ship.

    Funny how half a day changes a person's position in the mobile political spectrum.
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 04-06-2017 at 01:02 PM. Reason: corrected hypelink
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    04-06-2017 12:12 AM
  25. kapil Matta's Avatar
    Cheer up folks !

    Samsung will bring out a Windows phone soon.
    I bet.
    There must have been a deal.

    Otherwise, why would MS sell a Samsung phone in their stores?

    Moreover, Samsung needs MS more than ever before.
    It's facing stiff competition in the android market, and needs 'the next big thing'.
    So, Cheers !
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    04-07-2017 06:30 AM
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