11-12-2018 08:08 AM
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  1. mtf1380's Avatar
    I don't think MS have plans for any more mobile devices. Otherwise they wouldn't be supporting Android and, to a lesser extent, iOS so much with all their apps and services.
    "I believe" MS is supporting Android and iOS users to demonstrate what we WP users already know, how usefully and important MS built-in apps are and once (if) Android (and maybe iOS) are able to establish a unified communication standard to allow OEM's of all sorts of products to go "nuts" making our lives more "whatever" without having to worry about the incompatiblity of an OS will benefit the greater good and faster technology advancement.
    10-27-2018 09:31 AM
  2. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    It may even be that if MS does release a mobile device of any note that it runs Android. Whatever mobile device they launch that runs any kind of Windows will always have the stigma of all of the past MS Windows Phone failures attached to it. Therefore, it'll tank and MS will have tried, and failed, again, at a phone of their own.
    G4Grandad likes this.
    10-27-2018 11:04 AM
  3. mtf1380's Avatar
    It may even be that if MS does release a mobile device of any note that it runs Android. Whatever mobile device they launch that runs any kind of Windows will always have the stigma of all of the past MS Windows Phone failures attached to it. Therefore, it'll tank and MS will have tried, and failed, again, at a phone of their own.
    You may be to young to remember, but Apple had an arduous uphill battle to be where they are now, due to the success of a new twist to an old category (the phone). All I'm saying is that when all OSs realize that all devices should be able to interact SECURELY for future harmony in the marketplace, the better off all concern will be. The television business didn't succeed because every production company only broadcasted on it's own proprietary device...no! it succeeded due to the merit of the collective whole: content; manufacturing the brought that content to the consumer; unified standards that allowed cordination between manufacturing and the content to the consumer. I don't see how the IoT can succeed (long term) without ALL devices being able to communicate sercurely with each other.
    10-27-2018 12:58 PM
  4. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    You may be to young to remember, but Apple had an arduous uphill battle to be where they are now, due to the success of a new twist to an old category (the phone). All I'm saying is that when all OSs realize that all devices should be able to interact SECURELY for future harmony in the marketplace, the better off all concern will be. The television business didn't succeed because every production company only broadcasted on it's own proprietary device...no! it succeeded due to the merit of the collective whole: content; manufacturing the brought that content to the consumer; unified standards that allowed cordination between manufacturing and the content to the consumer. I don't see how the IoT can succeed (long term) without ALL devices being able to communicate sercurely with each other.
    I see your point. Maybe there is still hope for MS to have their 'iPhone moment' yet.
    mtf1380 and fatclue_98 like this.
    10-27-2018 08:54 PM
  5. mtf1380's Avatar
    @Ryujingt3, you are indeed a gentleman, sir.
    aximtreo and fatclue_98 like this.
    10-28-2018 08:29 AM
  6. KJW23's Avatar
    10-28-2018 07:12 PM
  7. KJW23's Avatar
    I don't think MS have plans for any more mobile devices. Otherwise they wouldn't be supporting Android and, to a lesser extent, iOS so much with all their apps and services.
    I have to say this with Windows Core OS. Windows Phone will be will be back.
    10-28-2018 07:43 PM
  8. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    I have to say this with Windows Core OS. Windows Phone will be will be back.
    But even if it is coming back, it still doesn't replace the sour taste most people have for Windows on mobile devices? The developers won't come back either, it's just the same thing, in different clothing, because MS never really learn from their mistakes.
    Lobo Technician and sd4f like this.
    10-28-2018 10:15 PM
  9. KJW23's Avatar
    But even if it is coming back, it still doesn't replace the sour taste most people have for Windows on mobile devices? The developers won't come back either, it's just the same thing, in different clothing, because MS never really learn from their mistakes.
    yes there have learn for the mistakes. that is why there
    Taking time Windows Core OS.
    11-02-2018 02:00 AM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    yes there have learn for the mistakes. that is why there
    Taking time Windows Core OS.
    Core OS is not a mobile OS in the way we’re used to. Portable is a more accurate description and for PCs at that. The fact that Microsoft is trying to leverage telephony into the mix doesn’t make it a smartphone any more than putting a motor on a hang glider and calling it an airplane.
    11-02-2018 08:39 AM
  11. KJW23's Avatar
    Core OS is not a mobile OS in the way we’re used to. Portable is a more accurate description and for PCs at that. The fact that Microsoft is trying to leverage telephony into the mix doesn’t make it a smartphone any more than putting a motor on a hang glider and calling it an airplane.
    Yes it's true lol
    11-06-2018 05:46 PM
  12. Yntyzar's Avatar
    mine android and ios is better than windows
    11-07-2018 02:06 AM
  13. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Core OS is not a mobile OS in the way we’re used to. Portable is a more accurate description and for PCs at that. The fact that Microsoft is trying to leverage telephony into the mix doesn’t make it a smartphone any more than putting a motor on a hang glider and calling it an airplane.
    Exactly this. It seems like MS is currently just throwing whatever they can at the wall to see what sticks.
    Lobo Technician likes this.
    11-07-2018 08:00 AM
  14. sd4f's Avatar
    But even if it is coming back, it still doesn't replace the sour taste most people have for Windows on mobile devices? The developers won't come back either, it's just the same thing, in different clothing, because MS never really learn from their mistakes.
    I completely agree that developers won't come back, and if the developers don't come back, users definitely won't.

    Just saw articles that sumsung have demonstrated a dual screen flip device, not unlike the andromeda device.

    Basically, without a substantial first-to-market advantage, I can't see the andromeda device getting there now. Why become an early adopter of a niche product, when you can become an early adopter of a mainstream product, that applies for users and developers alike.

    MS is more or less stuck with android an iOS, in my humble opinion.
    11-07-2018 07:42 PM
  15. Swapy's Avatar
    Windows is great you know but since not every person uses it around you it feels that windows is down.
    11-08-2018 11:20 AM
  16. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Basically, Samsung (and a Chinese manufacturer, who preceded Samsung) have shown us all that foldable phones are possible. This is most likely the next evolution for phones. But, as with all things, Apple are the ones who will really drive foldable devices, if indeed they do plan to release one. Otherwise, it may just be seen as something of a gimmick, like the display first was on the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge.

    Of course, whilst we all wait for whatever Apple plan to release, MS will have released Andromeda, failed, rebooted it, failed again and given up and left it to die - such is their usual tactics, sadly.
    anachrotech likes this.
    11-09-2018 08:38 AM
  17. KJW23's Avatar
    mine android and ios is better than windows

    no
    11-10-2018 03:55 AM
  18. KJW23's Avatar
    Basically, Samsung (and a Chinese manufacturer, who preceded Samsung) have shown us all that foldable phones are possible. This is most likely the next evolution for phones. But, as with all things, Apple are the ones who will really drive foldable devices, if indeed they do plan to release one. Otherwise, it may just be seen as something of a gimmick, like the display first was on the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge.

    Of course, whilst we all wait for whatever Apple plan to release, MS will have released Andromeda, failed, rebooted it, failed again and given up and left it to die - such is their usual tactics, sadly.
    lol yeah I know the surface team have a lot of successful devices but they will fail with this device. one word describe you delusional.
    11-10-2018 04:13 AM
  19. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    lol yeah I know the surface team have a lot of successful devices but they will fail with this device. one word describe you delusional.
    Who knows, maybe after all these failures, MS might get this one right?
    11-11-2018 04:55 AM
  20. sd4f's Avatar
    Who knows, maybe after all these failures, MS might get this one right?
    I have my doubts. The fact that the others have played their hand, shows that MS no longer have anything new to really show, and there's a lot of articles now of how google is baking in the dual screen aspect into android.

    I doubt andromeda can get off the ground at this stage. It's going to be a niche product, and can't compete with smartphones at all.

    By now, I have serious doubts it will entice developers to come along at all which has always been the weak point of MS mobile platform of late. If it succeeds, then great, but I'm not holding my breath.
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    11-11-2018 10:21 PM
  21. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    I have my doubts. The fact that the others have played their hand, shows that MS no longer have anything new to really show, and there's a lot of articles now of how google is baking in the dual screen aspect into android.

    I doubt andromeda can get off the ground at this stage. It's going to be a niche product, and can't compete with smartphones at all.

    By now, I have serious doubts it will entice developers to come along at all which has always been the weak point of MS mobile platform of late. If it succeeds, then great, but I'm not holding my breath.
    This pretty much sums everything up nicely.
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    11-12-2018 08:08 AM
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