11-16-2013 09:34 PM
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  1. nico002's Avatar
    90% of the time, people use tablets (and even laptops) for the same thing. Browsing the internet and watching videos.

    The Surface 2 is better than the iPad at both these things.

    Browsing isn't even close, IE is a FULL browser with the feel and security of a tablet browser like safari. Flash works, Pandora works, everything renders perfectly, its awesome. This to me is the killer feature of this device. It's hard to explain, but you quickly realize that you no longer need to comprise your browsing experience because you're on a tablet.

    Video is better on the Surface because of the 16:9 aspect ratio and HDMI out.

    Productivity, its a not contest. And this is a bigger deal that most realize, even for people who still have computers to compliment their tablets. On the road and need to make a quick edit to an email attachment? No problem with the surface.

    The iPad is better for games, it has more games and the smaller size makes it more comfortable to hold.

    The iPad is better for reading, again its the smaller size that gives it an edge. Although an e-ink device is better than any tablet for this.

    The iPad is easier to use with one hand and standing up, again, because if its smaller size.

    The iPad wins in the app department. But ill argue this. A large percentage of apps exist because phone/tablet browsers are limited. The Surface doesn't have this problem. Again, all websites, including Pandora work perfectly.

    Hardware is a no contest in the Surface's favor. Better construction, kickstand, more ports, expandable memory, in my opinion a more beautiful design. They keyboard cases are flat out sick. Nothing on the market compares.
    Vallos likes this.
    11-12-2013 07:35 PM
  2. gsquared's Avatar
    "90% of the time, people use tablets (and even laptops) for the same thing. Browsing the internet and watching videos."

    Are you still in college or do not hold a professional position? My laptop, and tablet for that matter gets used for real work. It's the tool that puts food on my table.
    11-12-2013 07:41 PM
  3. rdubmu's Avatar
    90% of my time is for work, or school. The other 10% is just browsing the internet mostly on WpCentral :)
    11-12-2013 07:43 PM
  4. nico002's Avatar
    To me there is a difference between a work station and a home computer. At work, I need to huge monitors and a large mouse and keyboard. At home and when I was at school? The Surface 2 does everything and more.
    11-12-2013 07:50 PM
  5. berty6294's Avatar
    Ladies 90% of the population don't browse forum sites religiously like we do, so clearly we aren't the ones he's referring too! And he is 100% right.
    11-12-2013 08:22 PM
  6. christenmartin's Avatar
    Ladies 90% of the population don't browse forum sites religiously like we do, so clearly we aren't the ones he's referring too! And he is 100% right.
    Oh ya he's right. I bought mine for my business and still my kid watches movies for hours on it.
    11-12-2013 09:14 PM
  7. realwarder's Avatar
    Kind of funny, as I'm listening to a video while browsing this site...
    christenmartin likes this.
    11-12-2013 10:30 PM
  8. wpjuanra's Avatar
    At home we have both the iPad 2 and the Surface 2 and I agree with your thoughts. They're both great devices, with their own pros and cons.

    For me, another positive thing for the Surface 2 is the ability to have different user accounts. At home, both me and my wife share our two tablets, and when it comes to the iPad we're always "fighting" back and forth about the installed apps and how the icons are set. However, with the Surface 2 we can have our own apps and we can arrange the tiles as we prefer without messing with the other one's setup. :D
    rav16 and Hoekie like this.
    11-13-2013 04:44 AM
  9. martinmc78's Avatar
    At home we have both the iPad 2 and the Surface 2 and I agree with your thoughts. They're both great devices, with their own pros and cons.

    For me, another positive thing for the Surface 2 is the ability to have different user accounts. At home, both me and my wife share our two tablets, and when it comes to the iPad we're always "fighting" back and forth about the installed apps and how the icons are set. However, with the Surface 2 we can have our own apps and we can arrange the tiles as we prefer without messing with the other one's setup. :D
    ^^^This^^^

    I share my surface with my girlfriend and my daughter. Its reassuring knowing I can just hand my surface to my 4 year old, she has her own locked off profile with everything she needs on it and I don't have to worry about her buying anything by accident on either mine or my girlfriends accounts.
    Hoekie likes this.
    11-13-2013 05:03 AM
  10. gschneiderAW18's Avatar
    There both great products, my partner and I have different eco systems, I have windows she has Apple. Therefore I have a surface 2 and she has an iPad air. one this is true of both devices in there respective environments they place nice. Outside this their not very happy tablets.

    Surface 2 is clearly better at productivity the iPad real annoys me when I actually want to do some work. However the iPad air is great for our daughter as the app range is better.

    Personally I prefer Windows 8 to OSX so I am biased lol
    11-13-2013 11:39 AM
  11. onysi's Avatar
    the surface 2 wins by a mile with multitasking.
    11-13-2013 11:47 AM
  12. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    the surface 2 wins by a mile with multitasking.
    Only if multitasking is the top priority.

    I'm working on creating a mobile rig for recording and producing podcasts. The Surface RT jumped quickly to the front because it directly supports a variety of quality microphones like the Blue Yeti usb microphone. But that's where it ended... there is no podcast recording software for WinRT. There are a bunch of audio recording apps, but these are all pretty much the same and don't offer the functionality that would be required for easily recording and producing a podcast.

    So I switched to attempting this with the iPad 4. I needed to switch to a lower-powered usb mic. A Logitech wand usb mic works directly with the iPad 4 (w/usb dongle). Went to the iTunes app store and purchased "Boss Jock". This is a professional quality podcast recording app. As much as I wanted to use the RT, the iPad wins.

    I don't want to harp on the app situation, but it is perhaps the single thing that will torpedo the platform.
    11-13-2013 12:13 PM
  13. gschneiderAW18's Avatar
    The App issue is a little annoying but I find it hard to criticise a 2 year old eco system. Apple wasn't much better when it started out. Windows growth is exponential though, due to the surge in the european markets it won't be long before windows catches up. Then we will have just as many S*** apps as iOS does so we can all rest easy lol
    Hoekie likes this.
    11-13-2013 02:11 PM
  14. homeedition88's Avatar
    Me too but unfortunately I am on surface rt and it is hell of lag a when try to write this message but anyway it works
    11-13-2013 03:26 PM
  15. etphoto's Avatar
    Only if multitasking is the top priority.


    I don't want to harp on the app situation, but it is perhaps the single thing that will torpedo the platform.
    Yet, the Windows eco system still grows. Slower in the US then across the pond, but still growing. Hearing about the app situation gets old.
    11-13-2013 04:44 PM
  16. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Yet, the Windows eco system still grows. Slower in the US then across the pond, but still growing. Hearing about the app situation gets old.
    Yeah, it gets old... but I didn't just lament in the abstract about it, I offered a real world example where it is impacting early adopters. What would YOU say to a person who is considering the purchase of a Surface with that example in mind?

    The answer isn't for me, I've already purchased my RT. But for those yet to decide, an answer would be helpful.
    11-13-2013 05:13 PM
  17. AndroidRon's Avatar
    Not a huge iPad fan since they have not innovated in years, but to Apple's credit, they have stable software that doesn't reboot, freeze up, lock down every day, Surface 2 sadly does...Surface 2 is a MUCH better device in nearly every other respect (but stable system software is critical).

    Ron
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    11-13-2013 08:26 PM
  18. hcrick's Avatar
    Only if multitasking is the top priority.

    I'm working on creating a mobile rig for recording and producing podcasts. The Surface RT jumped quickly to the front because it directly supports a variety of quality microphones like the Blue Yeti usb microphone. But that's where it ended... there is no podcast recording software for WinRT. There are a bunch of audio recording apps, but these are all pretty much the same and don't offer the functionality that would be required for easily recording and producing a podcast.

    So I switched to attempting this with the iPad 4. I needed to switch to a lower-powered usb mic. A Logitech wand usb mic works directly with the iPad 4 (w/usb dongle). Went to the iTunes app store and purchased "Boss Jock". This is a professional quality podcast recording app. As much as I wanted to use the RT, the iPad wins.

    I don't want to harp on the app situation, but it is perhaps the single thing that will torpedo the platform.
    I'd wager that having the ability to multi task will benefit a much greater percentage of people than having the ability to produce professional quality podcasts.
    11-13-2013 11:08 PM
  19. hcrick's Avatar
    Not a huge iPad fan since they have not innovated in years, but to Apple's credit, they have stable software that doesn't reboot, freeze up, lock down every day, Surface 2 sadly does...Surface 2 is a MUCH better device in nearly every other respect (but stable system software is critical).

    Ron
    A Surface 2 that reboots, freezes, locks down on a daily basis is defective and not indicative of the product line as a whole. Apple makes solid products despite the fact that my sister's iPad has locked up twice, my co-workers iPhone glitches randomly, and a friends iPad mini no longer turns on.
    11-13-2013 11:16 PM
  20. chinesepiratefood's Avatar
    Agreed on full IE being a key feature of Surface. I have a first gen Surface (RT) and primarily use it for web browsing. Because of this I almost predominantly use the Surface over my android tablets.
    11-13-2013 11:19 PM
  21. GreatCanadian's Avatar
    Yeah, it gets old... but I didn't just lament in the abstract about it, I offered a real world example where it is impacting early adopters. What would YOU say to a person who is considering the purchase of a Surface with that example in mind?

    The answer isn't for me, I've already purchased my RT. But for those yet to decide, an answer would be helpful.
    Perhaps the same thing you'd say to someone who asks "Where is the card slot and full-size USB on your iPad". It seems to me that if an iPad lacks something, then it's not needed. But if another tablet lacks a particular app, then it's automatically inferior because the almighty iPad has it.
    Last edited by GreatCanadian; 11-14-2013 at 08:25 AM.
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    11-14-2013 07:58 AM
  22. christenmartin's Avatar
    Perhaps the same thing you'd say to someone who asks "Where is the card slot and full-size USB on your iPad". It seems to me that if an iPad lacks something, then it's not needed. But if another tablet lacks a particular app, then it's automatically inferior because the almighty iPad has it.
    Exactly. The standard in alot of reviews starts with what the iPad does. If another tablet does something different that's strange or not needed. Example when talking about hardware the discussion is weight of the tablets not USB ports, hdmi port, key board, etc...
    11-14-2013 08:21 AM
  23. realwarder's Avatar
    The App issue is a little annoying but I find it hard to criticise a 2 year old eco system. Apple wasn't much better when it started out. Windows growth is exponential though, due to the surge in the european markets it won't be long before windows catches up. Then we will have just as many S*** apps as iOS does so we can all rest easy lol
    It's actually a one year old eco system really. You could add in some preview time before that but far from 2 years.

    This market is continuing to expand will new options like the recent 8" tablets from Lenovo and Dell. Amazing hardware for way under iPad pricing. Black Friday RT pricing of $199 will shift those units too. Apple is one hardware vendor. In the PC land there are many selling such a variety of hardware that all now runs Windows 8 and the new store apps that market share will continue to grow as more of those devices are touch enabled.

    You only have to go to BestBuy to see a stack of touch enabled options that are much more functional than an iPad.
    11-14-2013 01:36 PM
  24. z33dev33l's Avatar
    That's most intelligent people's opinion.
    11-14-2013 01:43 PM
  25. boovish's Avatar
    90% of the time, people use tablets (and even laptops) for the same thing. Browsing the internet and watching videos.

    The surface 2 is better than the ipad at both these things.

    Browsing isn't even close, ie is a full browser with the feel and security of a tablet browser like safari. Flash works, pandora works, everything renders perfectly, its awesome. This to me is the killer feature of this device. It's hard to explain, but you quickly realize that you no longer need to comprise your browsing experience because you're on a tablet.

    Video is better on the surface because of the 16:9 aspect ratio and hdmi out.

    Productivity, its a not contest. And this is a bigger deal that most realize, even for people who still have computers to compliment their tablets. On the road and need to make a quick edit to an email attachment? No problem with the surface.

    The ipad is better for games, it has more games and the smaller size makes it more comfortable to hold.

    The ipad is better for reading, again its the smaller size that gives it an edge. Although an e-ink device is better than any tablet for this.

    The ipad is easier to use with one hand and standing up, again, because if its smaller size.

    The ipad wins in the app department. But ill argue this. A large percentage of apps exist because phone/tablet browsers are limited. The surface doesn't have this problem. Again, all websites, including pandora work perfectly.

    Hardware is a no contest in the surface's favor. Better construction, kickstand, more ports, expandable memory, in my opinion a more beautiful design. They keyboard cases are flat out sick. Nothing on the market compares.
    the surface is a m*************g computer!
    11-14-2013 02:13 PM
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