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  1. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    I hope that Microsoft decides to revert back to a proprietary port for charging rather than use USB. That would be a step in getting me interesting in upgrading from my Surface 2.
    10-28-2015 02:28 PM
  2. SteelSteve's Avatar
    Now I'm the opposite. I like the fact that I can use portable chargers for long trips where I can't easily on my Surface 2
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    10-28-2015 03:00 PM
  3. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Now I'm the opposite. I like the fact that I can use portable chargers for long trips where I can't easily on my Surface 2
    Fair enough. I bought a Surface Pro charger for my Surface 2 that I take with me when traveling... not only does it charge faster than the USB charging on the Surface 3 but since it has an additional USB port on the block, I can simultaneously charge my Surface *and* my smartphone. I only take one charger with me.
    10-29-2015 02:56 PM
  4. GizmoEV's Avatar
    I hope that Microsoft decides to revert back to a proprietary port for charging rather than use USB. That would be a step in getting me interesting in upgrading from my Surface 2.
    I do miss the 80% charge in 60 min of the Lumia 2520. For the Surface 3 I wish they would have put in a USB-C rather than the micro-USB port. Maybe even allowed higher voltage charging to speed things up.
    11-15-2015 07:05 PM
  5. Steve Adams's Avatar
    magnetic charging is a must. I am so scared of the surface 3 micro usb charger.
    11-17-2015 05:47 AM
  6. cygnus11's Avatar
    magnetic charging is a must. I am so scared of the surface 3 micro usb charger.
    I agree. Charging using that USB port is making me nervous. I had a phone whose charging port got so loose over time that it was literally impossible to charge it. I hope that doesn't happen to the Surface 3. Wireless charging would also be a nice option. I have that on my Galaxy Note 5 and it is really convenient.
    11-17-2015 12:10 PM
  7. prlundberg's Avatar
    Yeah, I accidentally put the charger in the display port a couple weeks ago and bent a pin, so I'm guessing my display port won't work anymore (I have never used it). It's a poor design for several reasons.

    Ideally, I'd prefer a standardized magnetic connector with USB on the other end.
    11-17-2015 01:01 PM
  8. bmbvideo's Avatar
    Here's what I'd like to see for the Surface 4.

    First off, based on the changes to the SP4, I think we will see a slightly larger screen and smaller bezels (probably moving from 10.8 to 11 inches, if I had to guess), and an upgraded typecover 4 with better keys and trackpad. I LOVE the SP4's typecover.

    The things I'd like to see are...
    • a move to USB type-C - one for charging, and a second that can be used to attach a hub for more ports. This would allow it to be...
    • Thinner and lighter. I'd love it if they could hit a weight of only 1lb with this generation. But this doesn't come at the cost of...
    • Battery life. Keep it the same as it is today, or better yet, improve upon it.
    • I'd also like to see it move from Intel Atom to an Intel Core M chip, and move from eMMC storage to an SSD.
    • Speaking of storage, it'd be cool to see the base model have 4GB ram, and for there to be an option to have the storage go up to 265GB SSD.
    • And finally, give it a multi-position kick stand like the SP3 and SP4.


    All that while keeping the same price tag, and I'd be sold.
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    11-21-2015 08:59 PM
  9. dstrauss's Avatar
    I hope that Microsoft decides to revert back to a proprietary port for charging rather than use USB. That would be a step in getting me interesting in upgrading from my Surface 2.
    Now I'm the opposite. I like the fact that I can use portable chargers for long trips where I can't easily on my Surface 2
    USB-3 Type C; both your prayers will be answered...
    12-30-2015 10:18 AM
  10. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    USB-3 Type C; both your prayers will be answered...
    I don't see how that answers my request unless they add an additional USB port.
    12-30-2015 11:22 AM
  11. Steve Adams's Avatar
    A smaller bezel would not work very well for handling. You would always be hitting stuff on the screen. I think the bezel and size are fine. If you want bigger screen...Go for the pro. the only thing I would really want is a mag charger. Everything else is perfect right now. I find the kickstand positions are fine.
    12-31-2015 05:29 AM
  12. 3earnhardt3's Avatar
    Have there been any new Atom releases lately? I doubt we will see a new Surface until there is a significant reason to do so. I would rather them continue to sell the S3 at a discount while they focus on the Surface Phone.
    12-31-2015 11:13 AM
  13. Steve Adams's Avatar
    That's probably whats happening. There is really no reason to upgrade it anyways yet. People really need to cool their jets with the new device every 6 months thing. The S3 is an awesome piece of tech that kills all the ipad/android offerings now. Even with our lowly little s3. There is so much more you can do with an S3 than a computer/tablet/etc.
    01-01-2016 07:37 AM
  14. Imaculum's Avatar
    My dream spec for the Surface 4 would be:

    Core-M processor - ditch the Atom completely or keep it in the base model and higher models use Core-M. The Skylake Core-M CPUs seem to be very impressive.
    2x USB-C ports
    1x USB 3 port
    Full size SD card slot
    Improved keyboard and larger trackpad with better feel (much like the improvements that were made to the Surface Pro 4 keyboard/trackpad compared to the Pro 3's).
    Magnetic stylus (so it sticks to the side of the screen)
    Reduced screen bezel and increased display resolution. Keep the form factor of the device the same size.
    Any reduction in weight but battery life maintained or increased is always welcome :)
    Windows Hello looks cool but I haven't been able to try it on a computer yet.
    Ditch the 2Gb ram option. 4Gb minimum even on base model.
    8Gb ram option, along with storage capacity going up to 256/512Gb.

    Basically, Microsoft can you please apply the same improvements you did for the Pro devices, add an extra USB port or two and have a Core-M, 8Gb ram, 256Gb storage configuration. That spec with the stylus would be lovely for editing images on the go. I really like Windows 10 and combined with the above spec it would be my portable computer heaven ;)
    01-04-2016 08:46 AM
  15. Smithy London's Avatar
    I bought a Surface pro 4 a couple of weeks ago and have been seriously impressed by how "slick" the device has been. I bought the i7 256gb 8gb version and coming from a Macbook Pro 13 have been delighted with it. I believe for the earlier adopters there were some glitches, but I have had none on that device. In fact I have been so impressed, I went out and bought the i5 Surface Pro 3 and the 4gb 128gb Surface 3. Both the Surface and the Pro 3 are being heavily discounted here in London over the Xmas period (i5 Pro 3 with 33% off and surface with 18% off) and all models are preinstalled with Windows 10.
    The Pro models are super slick and very fast. I bought the Surface 3 for personal travelling and holidays. I am a tech guy and the idea of having a full on PC in a tablet the size of an iPad 4 is VERY appealing indeed. Unlike the pro versions, I didn't bother with the keyboard and will only use it as a touch screen. I bought the 128gb version and added a fast 128gb SD card. Yes compared to the Pros, its not slick or super fast... but it boots up quickly and is great to use. I have done some light video and photo editing and it didn't feel slow at all. It plays Grand Theft Auto from the Windows store flawlessly and it also runs my Android emulator and games without a hitch.
    The Surface is really aimed at students who want a great device on a budget and who don't need high processing power. It was launched only 8months ago and you don't think they fully tested it with Windows 10?
    This device for me, is neither slow or very fast... its totally adequate for 95% of everything I do, in an awesome package size! I appreciate the fanless system and the USB charging.
    If it had a intel core M processor in it... I am sure I would love it a little more.... but also it would have been way more expensive!

    I have only seen a couple of minor issues with mine... Once when I charged it overnight with it switched off, it failed to charge... I have since installed the full surface 3 driver pack and not seen an issue there since. Secondly, very occasionally on boot up the touch screen keyboard service fails to run and I needed to reboot.

    No other issues, oh and I get around 7 hours battery life too!
    01-04-2016 10:59 AM
  16. Genio88's Avatar
    I love my Surface 3, but it's clear that unfortunately it's not that fast, the main problem for me is the slow(at least compared to SSD) eMMC and secondly the Atom CPU, these things make it feel it a bit slower in launching application and booting than most of this kind of devices we are used at today. I've considered the upgrade to a Surface Pro 4 to overcome this issue, but the price is really high, and i'm concerned about it's portability, i love to use my Surface 3 as a tablet which turns into a laptop in a second, and with it's 10.6 inch display and its low weight it is perfect to carry around, also its micro USB charging port allows me to use a battery bank to charge it wherever i am.
    Thats why i really looking forward for the new Surface 4 to be revealed, that could be the perfect solution for me, they just need to keep it as it i but putting in a real SSD and improving the CPU, a core M would be great but it's expensive, so i'd take what ever as long as it's at least a 20% faster that the actual Atom, but really the most important think is the SSD, that would speed things up for real
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    01-04-2016 12:12 PM
  17. metalb00's Avatar
    My dream spec for the Surface 4 would be:

    Core-M processor - ditch the Atom completely or keep it in the base model and higher models use Core-M. The Skylake Core-M CPUs seem to be very impressive.
    2x USB-C ports
    1x USB 3 port
    Full size SD card slot
    Improved keyboard and larger trackpad with better feel (much like the improvements that were made to the Surface Pro 4 keyboard/trackpad compared to the Pro 3's).
    Magnetic stylus (so it sticks to the side of the screen)
    Reduced screen bezel and increased display resolution. Keep the form factor of the device the same size.
    Any reduction in weight but battery life maintained or increased is always welcome :)
    Windows Hello looks cool but I haven't been able to try it on a computer yet.
    Ditch the 2Gb ram option. 4Gb minimum even on base model.
    8Gb ram option, along with storage capacity going up to 256/512Gb.

    Basically, Microsoft can you please apply the same improvements you did for the Pro devices, add an extra USB port or two and have a Core-M, 8Gb ram, 256Gb storage configuration. That spec with the stylus would be lovely for editing images on the go. I really like Windows 10 and combined with the above spec it would be my portable computer heaven ;)
    usb c is the shape of the usb 3 port
    01-05-2016 01:52 PM
  18. Smithy London's Avatar
    Your thinking Thunderbolt2 (USB C) - USB 3 is a fast USB 2
    01-05-2016 06:01 PM
  19. jack69453's Avatar
    Why the low end surface will never have a Core M processor. The below was taken from the Intel site.

    Compare+ Intel Atom™ x7-Z8700 Processor
    (2M Cache, up to 2.40 GHz) Launched Q1'15 4 2 W TRAY: $37.00 Intel HD Graphics
    Compare+ Intel Atom™ x5-Z8500 Processor
    (2M Cache, up to 2.24 GHz) Launched Q1'15 4 2 W TRAY: $27.00 Intel HD Graphics
    Compare+ Intel Atom™ x5-Z8300 Processor
    (2M Cache, up to 1.84 GHz) Launched Q2'15 4 2 W TRAY: $21.00 Intel HD Graphics



    Compare+ Intel Core™ m3-6Y30 Processor
    (4M Cache, up to 2.20 GHz) Launched Q3'15 2 4.5 W TRAY: $281.00 Intel HD Graphics 515
    Compare+ Intel Core™ m5-6Y54 Processor
    (4M Cache, up to 2.70 GHz) Launched Q3'15 2 4.5 W TRAY: $281.00 Intel HD Graphics 515
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    01-06-2016 01:09 PM
  20. Imaculum's Avatar
    The Atom processor will stay in the low end model(s), but it would be great if there was an option for high end Surface 4 with Core M :)
    01-08-2016 10:33 AM
  21. Jens Ansorg's Avatar
    The Atom processor will stay in the low end model(s), but it would be great if there was an option for high end Surface 4 with Core M :)
    There's one already,it's called "Pro"

    Many of the wishes sound exactly like that: "Give me the Pro but for the lower price"
    Sure who wouldn't want this? ;)

    I'm using a cheap Teclast X98 since a month and that impressed me in how well it runs W10. But the device itself feels as cheap as it is and now I look forward to my just ordered Surface 3 LTE :)

    The X98 and now the S3 will replace a Nexus 9 LTE and I will not miss a thing but gain quite a few


    Surface 4? That can wait ... :)
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    01-09-2016 01:58 PM
  22. jhoff80's Avatar
    Many of the wishes sound exactly like that: "Give me the Pro but for the lower price"
    Sure who wouldn't want this? ;)
    Not really. More like "give us more performance in the smaller fanless device". Nobody is expecting to get that for the same price as the current Surface 3.
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    01-09-2016 02:11 PM
  23. eagle63's Avatar
    Not really. More like "give us more performance in the smaller fanless device". Nobody is expecting to get that for the same price as the current Surface 3.
    Yep, agreed. For me, the appeal of the Surface 3 (non-pro) isn't the lower cost it's the form factor. I'd pay a little more for the same size device but with more compute power.
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    01-09-2016 09:13 PM
  24. Imaculum's Avatar
    I don't think anyone has said they would expect a Core-M Surface 4 to cost the same as the Atom Surface 3.

    I'd pay more for a Core M processor compared to an Atom cpu. Like others, I'm after the form factor (small size) and fanless design but with more power than an Atom cpu can provide.

    The Skylake Core-M is proving to be a powerful chip, and packed into the form factor of the Surface 3 would be a wonderful device for me to carry around with all my photo gear (and damn heavy it is too - pro lenses, flashes, batteries and DSLR bodies stack up in weight!) for quick edits on the go. Raw file processing a few images on the go requires more than an Atom cpu but doesn't require an i5/i7. I work in some dusty and some very quiet environments so the fanless design would be a real bonus there too.

    For now I've ordered a Cube i7 Stylus (ignore the name, it has a Broadwell Core-M cpu, 4gb ram, 64Gb SSD) to see how I get on with the form factor combined with my workflow.
    It cost 230 so at this price and lack of a viable alternative I thought I'd give it a go. I've coupled it with the stylus and keyboard.

    The HP Spectre x2 looks really, really good. I very nearly bought one but then reports that it was let down by the low colour gamut offered by its screen. As a photographer this was a deal breaker for me. laptopmag.com have a good review of it.
    The Cube i7 Stylus which I've bought may not have a great screen either but it is a third of the price of the HP. It will do for now until either the HP is updated with a better screen or the Surface 4 fills my needs :)

    Anyway, all this is purely speculation about the Surface 4 specs. One can have a wish list, right?
    01-12-2016 12:57 PM
  25. Telstar1948's Avatar
    If it had a intel core M processor in it... I am sure I would love it a little more.... but also it would have been way more expensive
    I'm seeing a lot of reports on the SP4 m3 having less battery life than the i5! Unless MS did a lot of work on that issue, I'd hate to see the m3 get squeezed into the S3 with less battery life than presently. As you said, though, for my office use and personal use it handles just about everything very well. I really do like my S3!
    01-17-2016 11:25 AM
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