11-16-2013 09:34 PM
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  1. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Perhaps the same thing you'd say to someone who asks "Where is the card slot and full-size USB on your iPad". It seems to me that if an iPad lacks something, then it's not needed. But if another tablet lacks a particular app, then it's automatically inferior because the almighty iPad has it.
    I would be more likely to take your response seriously if you didn't proceed to imply how somebody would react to such a question (re: where is the usb...).

    Rather than set up strawmen arguments only to knock them down, how about offering some insight that could help others? I'm a fan of the Surface RT/2 and I'm running into real world scenarios where it is falling short. You can dismiss this scenario as one contrived to put the Surface in a bad light (which it's not) but then you are no better than the iPad apologists.
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    11-14-2013 03:36 PM
  2. Saint Michael's Avatar
    Only if multitasking is the top priority.

    I'm working on creating a mobile rig for recording and producing podcasts. The Surface RT jumped quickly to the front because it directly supports a variety of quality microphones like the Blue Yeti usb microphone. But that's where it ended... there is no podcast recording software for WinRT. There are a bunch of audio recording apps, but these are all pretty much the same and don't offer the functionality that would be required for easily recording and producing a podcast.

    So I switched to attempting this with the iPad 4. I needed to switch to a lower-powered usb mic. A Logitech wand usb mic works directly with the iPad 4 (w/usb dongle). Went to the iTunes app store and purchased "Boss Jock". This is a professional quality podcast recording app. As much as I wanted to use the RT, the iPad wins.

    I don't want to harp on the app situation, but it is perhaps the single thing that will torpedo the platform.
    Well, that's you.
    For me (and we do have the Ipad air in the house), the Ipad is a toy in comparason, caus untill I can do homework, sitting in my Chair, doing dual screen With 6-8 apps working split out over the two screens like this, it's just not productive enough ( the ipad that is)
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    11-14-2013 03:55 PM
  3. martinmc78's Avatar
    So the bottom line is... Buy the device that suits your needs best.

    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1020
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    11-14-2013 04:09 PM
  4. GreatCanadian's Avatar
    Whether you take my response seriously or not matters little to me. I did not imply anything. - you inferred. There is a difference.
    Prospective buyer's question to me: What app do I use for podcast recording on the Surface 2
    My response: There isn't one

    Prospective buyer's question to you: Where is the full size USB port on your iPad
    Your response: There isn't one

    That's all I was pointing out. I said our responses would have to be the same.

    The rest of my post was not aimed at you, but at a common trend amongst those who find a way to turn iPad negatives into unnecessities (if that's a word!)

    And please don't give me a hard time 'cause my tablet is a PlayBook!!


    I would be more likely to take your response seriously if you didn't proceed to imply how somebody would react to such a question (re: where is the usb...).

    Rather than set up strawmen arguments only to knock them down, how about offering some insight that could help others? I'm a fan of the Surface RT/2 and I'm running into real world scenarios where it is falling short. You can dismiss this scenario as one contrived to put the Surface in a bad light (which it's not) but then you are no better than the iPad apologists.
    11-14-2013 07:30 PM
  5. mrzees's Avatar
    Okay so I bought my surface two from Walmart and in 10 days it arrived at my doorstep in Trinidad. Hooray. That's until I unboxed the box and logged in with my msn account. I never had the surface rt but this surface 2 was glitch. From the first boot up things such as the swiping down to close apps and across to fast resume others had it permanently freezing the tablet. Trying to use the camera app was a disaster as it kept causing the device to severely lag. Within the first 3 hours of frustratingly toying around with it and having to restart it 4 times because it simply froze, I took it off and went to be. By the morning I was back at it, only this time it was as though someone replaced the darn thing or sprayed antifreeze on it. I've had it on all day and the thing works buttery smooth. Not sure what the problem was last night but tonight i'm watching nba broadband on it. Surface 2 on day-2 ROCKS!!!
    11-14-2013 08:24 PM
  6. gschneiderAW18's Avatar
    iPad's software was once kick I agree but since iOS7 don't get your hopes up. it really isn't the OS you expect. It is really buggy as is OSX mavericks
    11-15-2013 03:46 AM
  7. GreatCanadian's Avatar
    My first guess is that it was perhaps performing updates in the background. Just a guess though.

    Okay so I bought my surface two from Walmart and in 10 days it arrived at my doorstep in Trinidad. Hooray. That's until I unboxed the box and logged in with my msn account. I never had the surface rt but this surface 2 was glitch. From the first boot up things such as the swiping down to close apps and across to fast resume others had it permanently freezing the tablet. Trying to use the camera app was a disaster as it kept causing the device to severely lag. Within the first 3 hours of frustratingly toying around with it and having to restart it 4 times because it simply froze, I took it off and went to be. By the morning I was back at it, only this time it was as though someone replaced the darn thing or sprayed antifreeze on it. I've had it on all day and the thing works buttery smooth. Not sure what the problem was last night but tonight i'm watching nba broadband on it. Surface 2 on day-2 ROCKS!!!
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    11-15-2013 01:34 PM
  8. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    iPad's software was once kick I agree but since iOS7 don't get your hopes up. it really isn't the OS you expect. It is really buggy as is OSX mavericks
    True. My iPad 4 and MacBook Pro will be the last Apple devices I purchase. I'm not pleased with iOS7 (on one of my test iPhone 4's) nor am happy with that abomination commonly known as OSX Mavericks. There's a reason why Apple made that "free"
    11-15-2013 05:58 PM
  9. christenmartin's Avatar
    My first guess is that it was perhaps performing updates in the background. Just a guess though.
    I bet your right. Mine was acting squirrelly as hell and once I got it open it was loading about 20 updates.
    11-16-2013 11:28 AM
  10. SteelSteve's Avatar
    Not a huge iPad fan since they have not innovated in years, but to Apple's credit, they have stable software that doesn't reboot, freeze up, lock down every day, Surface 2 sadly does...Surface 2 is a MUCH better device in nearly every other respect (but stable system software is critical).

    Ron
    When your Surface 2 locks up does is create glitches or artifacts on the screen? That is what mine is doing, and Microsoft is sending me another one as they say my device is defective. I would contact them if this condition persists.
    11-16-2013 08:19 PM
  11. explosive0's Avatar
    I beg to differ. I returned my Surface 2 and got the iPad mini with retina display. For browsing and movies, iPad all the way. Try laying in bed and holding the Surface 2 for 20-30 mins, and I'm guessing you browse in landscape mode only?
    11-16-2013 08:22 PM
  12. SteelSteve's Avatar
    As for the topic, I came from an IPad 2 to the Surface 2. I am forced to agree with the OP. The Surface 2 is a great device, and I am trying to migrate everything to it, but there are still some games and apps I use that are not on the Microsoft echo system as of yet. Here is hoping this continues to improve.
    11-16-2013 08:22 PM
  13. cbreze's Avatar
    I still have my ipad3 and use it for certain functions. The KB tho has always been laggy to register key presses on the iPad. Annoying to say the least always waiting for it to catch up. The surface2 kb is spot on, no lag at all and also guesses the needed correction better. I'm really beginning to enjoy sending longer emails on the surface 2 using the kb.
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    11-16-2013 09:34 PM
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