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  1. lanakaryatna's Avatar
    Yeah, until december they more upgrade to pro version
    05-25-2017 07:59 AM
  2. Freddy Grande's Avatar
    It doesn't make sense not to, right? If it's free, why not?
    Then again Microsoft also hoped that with their Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrades and we all know how that turned out...
    05-25-2017 09:22 AM
  3. lanakaryatna's Avatar
    Yeah, you know win 7 and win 10 is same can install win32 app, and win10 S can't
    05-25-2017 11:59 AM
  4. Gerade_Kurve's Avatar
    I think every private user should upgrade to Windows 10 Pro. If they want, they can Limit their devices to store-apps only but being on Pro always leaves the Option open to install other programs, which is in any case preferable.
    rdubmu likes this.
    05-25-2017 02:37 PM
  5. Rafael Martins1's Avatar
    If it's free, why not?
    The truth is here.
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    05-25-2017 05:59 PM
  6. k1s23's Avatar
    I think every private user should upgrade to Windows 10 Pro. If they want, they can Limit their devices to store-apps only but being on Pro always leaves the Option open to install other programs, which is in any case preferable.
    hello. it really matters on the user so im not sure about every private user. my parents are the most basic of computer users i know, so windows 10 s is the better choice for them because they only use edge and the mail app. my nieces dont have email addresses so they just use edge. sometimes the most basic of users are the ones that download unnecessary and/or bad things to their computers because they dont know/think about viruses spamware etc.. even though windows 10 s is education focused, the "s=simple" (terry myserson mentioned it in the education event a few weeks ago) definitely applies to these users for their protection. check out this video from bitwit where he cleans up his neighbors desktop (start it at 3:16 to see all of the .exe files running) and windows 10 s wouldve benefited this pc user.

    Last edited by k1s23; 05-26-2017 at 01:38 AM.
    Drael646464 and MoggyMisc like this.
    05-25-2017 07:34 PM
  7. Keeptechcoolandsimple's Avatar
    The truth is here.
    Yes
    05-25-2017 07:35 PM
  8. benbg55's Avatar
    It will be possible to upgrade to W10Pro for free until 12/31/2017.
    After it might be 49$.
    05-26-2017 02:59 AM
  9. SP4's Avatar
    I would upgrade almost immediately, I imagine. Why limit yourself to Windows Store apps when you don't have to?
    05-26-2017 05:24 AM
  10. Drael646464's Avatar
    Hard to say "most" really.

    "Most" users are not power users and could really benefit from additional security, speed, auto-upgrades, lack of pc rot, lack of registry degradation, and they may well just see the warning, have a look in the windows store, and find everything they need.

    The average user might see the word "more secure" (which is true), and give it a go. Unless they specifically need some non-store app, which I imagine most users do not.
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    05-26-2017 06:56 AM
  11. k1s23's Avatar
    Hard to say "most" really.

    "Most" users are not power users and could really benefit from additional security, speed, auto-upgrades, lack of pc rot, lack of registry degradation, and they may well just see the warning, have a look in the windows store, and find everything they need.

    The average user might see the word "more secure" (which is true), and give it a go. Unless they specifically need some non-store app, which I imagine most users do not.
    hey there. couldnt agree more with what you said. it is a more secure os due to the fact that it blocks all this spamware adware bloatware crap in computers that are .exe files downloaded from anywhere. my whole family can benefit from windows 10 s simply because windows 10 s blocks all the random stuff they would potentially download. id say an average user can get by with edge, the mail app, and the office suite (specifically word), and if they wanted to download netflix (popular choice), hulu (popular choice), facebook (popular choice), spotify (will definitely be a popular choice), or other apps the likelihood its available in the store is high for basic users. everything is automated; they dont need to manually update because the updates will happen through the store.
    05-26-2017 08:54 AM
  12. k1s23's Avatar
    I would upgrade almost immediately, I imagine. Why limit yourself to Windows Store apps when you don't have to?
    hey there. i would upgrade immediately too, but only because one application i really need for work is not available in the store. if that were available in the store, id just leave the os at windows 10 s. i like security.
    05-26-2017 09:01 AM
  13. MoggyMisc's Avatar
    Just like the public PC in my university office.
    It's loaded of 3 antiviruses, 5 background apps in the task tray, and takes ages to open a webpage.
    05-26-2017 09:04 AM
  14. k1s23's Avatar
    Just like the public PC in my university office.
    It's loaded of 3 antiviruses, 5 background apps in the task tray, and takes ages to open a webpage.
    hey there. perfect situation where windows 10 s would benefit its users and the owner especially because im sure the librarians arent doing checks to see what is in the computers. i also have seen public computers with all kinds of things running in the background (like computers at hotels that people use to print their boarding passes), and i think for public computers windows 10 s is a great option.
    05-26-2017 09:36 AM
  15. jmerrey's Avatar
    To prepare for 10S, I've been attempting to run all Store apps the past few weeks, with the exception of the Office apps, which I know are coming at some point. The two biggest issues I've run into are Slack and Chrome.

    The Store version of Slack will not start automatically in Windows. I contacted Slack, and it's a restriction of Store apps. No biggie, I can start it manually when I reboot. Bigger problem is that the Store version isn't as stable. It locks up at least once a day, and the only time I find out is when someone asks me why I haven't responded to them, or notice a message on my phone app.

    I've noticed over the last few weeks of using Edge that it's just not on par with Chrome. Chrome is much faster for daily use, and there are still websites and features (example being some web meeting sites) that won't work in Edge.

    I had hoped to be able to stay on 10S, but at this point I don't think it's possible for my work flow. Others may be different.
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    05-26-2017 09:50 AM
  16. MoggyMisc's Avatar
    To prepare for 10S, I've been attempting to run all Store apps the past few weeks, with the exception of the Office apps, which I know are coming at some point. The two biggest issues I've run into are Slack and Chrome.

    The Store version of Slack will not start automatically in Windows. I contacted Slack, and it's a restriction of Store apps. No biggie, I can start it manually when I reboot. Bigger problem is that the Store version isn't as stable. It locks up at least once a day, and the only time I find out is when someone asks me why I haven't responded to them, or notice a message on my phone app.

    I've noticed over the last few weeks of using Edge that it's just not on par with Chrome. Chrome is much faster for daily use, and there are still websites and features (example being some web meeting sites) that won't work in Edge.

    I had hoped to be able to stay on 10S, but at this point I don't think it's possible for my work flow. Others may be different.
    I agree. MSFT should hurry to make store apps into something that at least people can rely on and use daily like they did the Win32 apps.

    Problems with Windows Store is not only the number and variety of apps but also the quality of them, too.
    05-26-2017 10:01 AM
  17. k1s23's Avatar
    The Store version of Slack will not start automatically in Windows. I contacted Slack, and it's a restriction of Store apps. No biggie, I can start it manually when I reboot.
    hey there, definitely submit feedback in the feedback hub about the option to start uwp apps automatically. i usually dont do that in my pc so i havent thought about that until you mentioned it but its something pc users are used to for years and it helps with the work flow so its a great function.
    05-26-2017 10:40 AM
  18. Drael646464's Avatar
    To prepare for 10S, I've been attempting to run all Store apps the past few weeks, with the exception of the Office apps, which I know are coming at some point. The two biggest issues I've run into are Slack and Chrome.

    The Store version of Slack will not start automatically in Windows. I contacted Slack, and it's a restriction of Store apps. No biggie, I can start it manually when I reboot. Bigger problem is that the Store version isn't as stable. It locks up at least once a day, and the only time I find out is when someone asks me why I haven't responded to them, or notice a message on my phone app.

    I've noticed over the last few weeks of using Edge that it's just not on par with Chrome. Chrome is much faster for daily use, and there are still websites and features (example being some web meeting sites) that won't work in Edge.

    I had hoped to be able to stay on 10S, but at this point I don't think it's possible for my work flow. Others may be different.
    Yeah unfortunately because chrome is so popular, and its not fully html5 compliant, some websites are also not html5 compliant. Not really any websites that I use, but I've seen it happen mainly with google based stuff. For example, google+ notifications were broken on every browser except chrome for a month or so.
    05-26-2017 10:57 AM
  19. Rafael Martins1's Avatar
    I agree. MSFT should hurry to make store apps into something that at least people can rely on and use daily like they did the Win32 apps.

    Problems with Windows Store is not only the number and variety of apps but also the quality of them, too.
    Unfortunately the UWP still lose a lot compared to WPF. Microsoft has concentrated a lot of strength on xamarin, but could be more advanced with UWP. A pity. I develop in UWP and still lacks many resources.
    Not to mention the store itself, which works very badly.
    05-26-2017 11:15 AM
  20. Surapathi_121-0's Avatar
    If the popular app developers create their apps for windows, the rate of conversion will be decreased and there by in the future those apps will come to Windows 10 Mobile only which is awesome.
    05-26-2017 11:36 AM
  21. k1s23's Avatar
    If the popular app developers create their apps for windows, the rate of conversion will be decreased and there by in the future those apps will come to Windows 10 Mobile only which is awesome.
    although not necessarily true for the desktop bridge apps as those are not full uwp apps, i hope that these apps will make its way to windows 10 mobile, or windows on arm if a phone is made using this qualcomm chip.
    05-26-2017 07:47 PM
  22. Drael646464's Avatar
    If the popular app developers create their apps for windows, the rate of conversion will be decreased and there by in the future those apps will come to Windows 10 Mobile only which is awesome.

    Hopefully. But once they have their foot in the door via centennial, they still need to be drawn over by the honey of full UWP, via other hardware platforms, like console, mobile, mixed reality, HoloLens, and whatever else MS has cooked up.

    It's a start. It certainly promotes the benefits of new app makers just writing in UWP in the first place. Windows on ARMs ability to draw iOS app makers over via islandwood is probably more immediately valuable to 10m users though- if we can get those GPS/chat/banking apps across, that is much much needed.
    05-26-2017 10:23 PM
  23. k1s23's Avatar
    Hopefully. But once they have their foot in the door via centennial, they still need to be drawn over by the honey of full UWP, via other hardware platforms, like console, mobile, mixed reality, HoloLens, and whatever else MS has cooked up.

    It's a start. It certainly promotes the benefits of new app makers just writing in UWP in the first place. Windows on ARMs ability to draw iOS app makers over via islandwood is probably more immediately valuable to 10m users though- if we can get those GPS/chat/banking apps across, that is much much needed.
    hey drael, as always i agree with you. although i dont personally care about banking apps as i really use american express mostly (which has a uwp app thankfully) i see the constant demand for these apps. just one part of the puzzle to make the windows store a very robust location to get apps for any microsoft-enabled platform.
    05-26-2017 11:49 PM
  24. overboard08's Avatar
    I'm going to give 10 S a chance. Pre online-masters I would say I'd probably just stick with S. But given the opportunity I would give 10 S a chance before upgrading. Gotta keep that Steam/gaming access!

    v/r
    BMK
    From Surface Pro 4
    05-27-2017 08:23 PM
  25. DarkLykan114's Avatar
    A $50 upgrade from Windows 10 S to Windows 10 Pro is like upgrading from a Chromebook to a Windows 10 Pro Ultrabook. I'd see why someone would give 10 S a chance, but $50 isn't that much money considering Windows 10 Pro is around $200 for a fresh copy where I live.
    05-27-2017 09:46 PM
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