1. midfieldpacman's Avatar
    Hi

    I recently bought a 10.5" iPad Pro to be a media device and ultra mobile computer for email and editing word docs etc.

    My current setup is Dropbox auto syncs my Mac Documents and Downloads folder and then I access these docs on my iPad. I'm spending a lot of time on planes and trains with no wifi at the moment and found that even if I make a file available offline in Dropbox, I can't open it in the office apps unless I'm online. I think it's a limitation of iOS rather than Dropbox.

    This is a big deal for me so I thought about moving to a Surface Pro as it will handle files like a normal computer and download to the hard drive rather than store in a closed off app.

    I have a 2017 Macbook Pro which I love so not looking for a laptop replacement.

    My question is, I know I'll gain better office and file management abilities, but how much will I lose with a surface on the media side? I like the wide variety of apps on iOS, even though I only really use netflix, amazon, youtube, spotify/apple music, etc.

    Thanks
    08-21-2017 06:21 AM
  2. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    You won't lose anything, as you have access to a wide plethora of fully powered browsers like Chrome and Edge for all your entertainment needs. However, if you're talking specifically about apps, yes you will lose a bit, but the app situations on the desktop version of the Windows Store isn't quite as desolate as the Mobile side. Netflix is a fully functional app, YouTube has the incredible MyTube (far better than the stock YouTube app), Spotify has, well, Spotify, and Groove Music is a fantastic and beautiful music service that, in my humble opinion, completely decimates Apple Music. You can take that as you will, but I wouldn't hesitate to replace an iPad Pro with a Surface Pro, as you're simply getting far more computer in a far more versatile package, and the new Surface Pro has a superior stylus experience, better performance, comparable battery life, and in a beautiful package. You do sacrifice the simplicity and ease of use that iOS possesses, and it'll be more annoying to tie it in with your other Apple products. The Surface Pro is also a little harder to use as a tablet just because of Windows 10's currently limited Tablet Mode.
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    08-21-2017 02:27 PM
  3. excalibur1814's Avatar
    If you can spend time with both!

    How many times does Dropbox have to release user/pass details to the web before people stop using it? There's always OneDrive if you're moving to a Surface and that's what I use on my iPad mini 4
    08-22-2017 07:24 AM
  4. convergent's Avatar
    Hi

    I recently bought a 10.5" iPad Pro to be a media device and ultra mobile computer for email and editing word docs etc.

    My current setup is Dropbox auto syncs my Mac Documents and Downloads folder and then I access these docs on my iPad. I'm spending a lot of time on planes and trains with no wifi at the moment and found that even if I make a file available offline in Dropbox, I can't open it in the office apps unless I'm online. I think it's a limitation of iOS rather than Dropbox.

    This is a big deal for me so I thought about moving to a Surface Pro as it will handle files like a normal computer and download to the hard drive rather than store in a closed off app.

    I have a 2017 Macbook Pro which I love so not looking for a laptop replacement.

    My question is, I know I'll gain better office and file management abilities, but how much will I lose with a surface on the media side? I like the wide variety of apps on iOS, even though I only really use netflix, amazon, youtube, spotify/apple music, etc.

    Thanks
    Its kind of apples vs. oranges, no pun intended. My thoughts on the apps you mentioned:

    - Netflix - the Win10 app works great in tablet mode, just as good as iOS. It also can do downloads and play disconnected or in other countries.
    - Amazon - there is no Win10 app for this, so its browser only. That means no downloads I don't believe.
    - Youtube - there is no Win10 app, so just use browser. Have to be online.
    - Spotify - there is a Win10 app, but I don't use Spotify so no comment on it.
    - Apple Music - Apple has said they will be releasing a new Win10 app for this, but haven't yet. I don't use iTunes today on my Surface.

    For news I use the USA Today app and the Microsoft News and Money apps... they all very good in tablet mode.
    All the office apps obviously work great on the Surface.
    I use Firefox as my main browser, but all of them work fine.
    08-22-2017 12:43 PM
  5. Henrik Becker's Avatar
    I was recently considering picking up a new Macbook and an iPad together vs picking up a Surface Pro.

    After messing with the iPad and the stylus I was unconvinced of the writing experience. I tried it on a few machines in the store - all of them lagged. SP seems much nippier.
    08-23-2017 08:27 AM
  6. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I was recently considering picking up a new Macbook and an iPad together vs picking up a Surface Pro.

    After messing with the iPad and the stylus I was unconvinced of the writing experience. I tried it on a few machines in the store - all of them lagged. SP seems much nippier.
    The new Surface Pro has a far better inking experience I've seen.
    08-28-2017 12:53 PM
  7. rdubmu's Avatar
    The new Surface Pro has a far better inking experience I've seen.
    The inking experience on the iPad Pro is better than the surface pro 4. In my opinion thou. :)
    09-01-2017 01:50 AM
  8. ClintRo's Avatar
    The new Surface Pro and the Surface Pro 4 have different inking experiences.

    Oh why didn't they just call it the Surface Pro 5??? SMH
    09-01-2017 07:21 AM
  9. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    The inking experience on the iPad Pro is better than the surface pro 4. In my opinion thou. :)
    I loathe the feel of the Pencil. Can't stand it. It feels cheap and uncomfortable, which is not something you can say about Apple very often. And that charging solution? Good golly it's awful. Yeah the specs are good and I'm sure it's a decent stylus that's comparable if not superior to the Pro 4 Pen but I can't get past the feel. It just doesn't feel good to me. And no buttons/eraser makes me mad too.
    09-08-2017 02:17 PM
  10. rdubmu's Avatar
    I loathe the feel of the Pencil. Can't stand it. It feels cheap and uncomfortable, which is not something you can say about Apple very often. And that charging solution? Good golly it's awful. Yeah the specs are good and I'm sure it's a decent stylus that's comparable if not superior to the Pro 4 Pen but I can't get past the feel. It just doesn't feel good to me. And no buttons/eraser makes me mad too.
    I disagree with the cheap feeling, I like it a lot.l, but the charging solution is kind of stupid but it works, 15 seconds I have a 30 minute charge.

    I hate the SP4 pen and the tips, they wear out.
    09-08-2017 11:51 PM
  11. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I disagree with the cheap feeling, I like it a lot.l, but the charging solution is kind of stupid but it works, 15 seconds I have a 30 minute charge.

    I hate the SP4 pen and the tips, they wear out.
    I've not had any issues with the tips wearing out, and I think it's great being able to hot swap them with an affordable pen tip kit. The Pen feels high quality, and has a nice heft and weight to it. The only issue I've had so far with it is that it's kind of annoying trying to find a new battery for it. I hope Microsoft switches to some form of rechargeable solution in the future because, as long as the battery lasts, they're not easy to find.
    09-09-2017 02:54 PM
  12. ClintRo's Avatar
    You can order the batteries on Amazon or your local hardware store might have it as well... not expensive either.
    09-13-2017 09:29 AM
  13. rdubmu's Avatar
    I've not had any issues with the tips wearing out, and I think it's great being able to hot swap them with an affordable pen tip kit. The Pen feels high quality, and has a nice heft and weight to it. The only issue I've had so far with it is that it's kind of annoying trying to find a new battery for it. I hope Microsoft switches to some form of rechargeable solution in the future because, as long as the battery lasts, they're not easy to find.
    They sell the batteries at Safeway and Fred Myers here in the Seattle area.
    09-14-2017 06:41 PM

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