07-09-2014 11:53 PM
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  1. Azurus's Avatar
    when the surface pro3 was first launched they said it cant get any thinner due to the size of the USB 3.0
    As far as I remember, there was a post a few month ago stating that the next generation of USB ports will be thinner ( the size of the iPhone 5 and 5S current charger) with that being said, this will allow the next generations of surfaces to be thinner if possible.
    the second issue is that surface pro 3 was made before Microsoft acquired Nokia

    My main concern is , is the surface pro 3 the ultimate laptop/tablet or should I be waiting for the next big thing from Microsoft after they acquired Nokia?
    And about the USB port . is it just an idea that will come to life in a few years or is it coming in 2015 ?
    07-06-2014 09:23 PM
  2. ians18's Avatar
    Surface is the premium end of the market, yes. How does Nokia have anything to do? They make mostly phones (great at making phones actually), and the 2520 is the only tablet they sell, plus it is ARM based. I doubt the Pro would EVER become ARM based, because it is using the 64-bit intel Haswell processor, the only next step would be the Broadwell series. The next gen may be thinner, but would any of your devices be compatible? No. I doubt they will get thinner, faster maybe. I doubt the USB will be lightening port size even Thunderbolt ports are not that small, wrong purpose, wrong size. The Surface Pro 3 is so thing (the thinnest intel there is) yet you don't think that's enough? Surface (ARM based) may get thinner, and the USB in this case is not the inhibitor for the thinness, the rest of the needed components are. The Surface 2 is the thinnest device with a full USB, not the Pro.
    07-06-2014 09:37 PM
  3. badMojo69's Avatar
    When they can do this with small tablet with full windows buying a SPx seems like a waste of $$.
    Things are really going to change next year. SP3 seems dated by comparison. Heck my old SP2 seems ancient.

    ThinkPad 8 Dockable Windows 8 Business Tablet | Lenovo (US)
    07-06-2014 10:02 PM
  4. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    It seems the consensus is always to not wait for something that is speculative. I just went down to check out the SP3 today at Best Buy and am seriously considering upgrading my original Surface Pro. The SP3 is one sweet device IMO.
    aximtreo, jedge, Stravincy and 1 others like this.
    07-06-2014 10:05 PM
  5. badMojo69's Avatar
    Normally id agree to not wait but this year is a year of change and imop its a bad time to invest in tech if you can wait. Everything to me right now feels like beta which is why I sold my SP2 and picked up a S2 to hold me over for 4-6 months.
    WillysJeepMan likes this.
    07-06-2014 10:19 PM
  6. kristalsoldier's Avatar
    When they can do this with small tablet with full windows buying a SPx seems like a waste of $$.
    Things are really going to change next year. SP3 seems dated by comparison. Heck my old SP2 seems ancient.

    ThinkPad 8 Dockable Windows 8 Business Tablet | Lenovo (US)
    I am not sure that the TP8 - dockable or not - is comparable to the SP3. They are just different classes of machines.
    BobLobIaw likes this.
    07-06-2014 10:52 PM
  7. seangprice's Avatar
    Not sure what data everyone is looking at but for the size and capability of the SP3 it seems at least to this point the pinnacle for this year on mobility and power. I'm sure in the next 6 months to a year it will get thinner and faster, but I doubt it will be significant. SP3 isn't the jack of all trades but it's darn close. So far I'm very impressed by the SP3, this is coming from an Apple guy. Sure, there are aspects that can get better, and will but from my point of view the SP3 is an Impressive device and should be on the radar for heavy mobile users and travelers.
    BobLobIaw likes this.
    07-07-2014 12:04 AM
  8. darthhen's Avatar
    How does SP3 being design and made before Microsoft acquire Nokia have anything to do with your decision?
    07-07-2014 12:04 AM
  9. seangprice's Avatar
    How does SP3 being design and made before Microsoft acquire Nokia have anything to do with your decision?
    I don't think it should, research this product based on third party reviews and personal experiences. I don't think this product has anything to do with the Nokia/Microsoft business ventures. The SP3 can speak for itself on its own merits.
    07-07-2014 12:18 AM
  10. cdf3's Avatar
    It's a possibility USB 3.1 Type C could become the new standard for USB. With smaller port size, this will allow devices to manufactured thinner.
    I'm not too concerned about this at this point because all of my printers, scanners, USB Jump drives, etc. all use the current size USB.
    I'm sure adapters will be made, but at the moment I don't have to worry about keeping up with an adapter.
    07-07-2014 12:48 AM
  11. mozman68's Avatar
    Not sure if the connector size will change or not, but excited to see that the next big thing in USB is the integration of power. USB is currently the only universal "plug" of its type in the world and the plan is to move to it as the universal power and data source around the globe.
    07-07-2014 08:57 AM
  12. Infamy79's Avatar
    The only thing stopping me from getting a SP3 is that a Broadwell version should be out some time in the next 6-7 months which should be truly fanless and even thinner again which will help reduce weight and make it easier to be a true laptop in hybrid form. I may not be able to wait though as I will probably need a new laptop in the next 3 months, not sure my 2011 Mac Book Air will last me until the SP4.
    07-07-2014 09:06 AM
  13. jedge's Avatar
    Anyone who says they're waiting for "the next big thing" should probably wait.
    Not because there's something better coming (there's ALWAYS something better coming) but because it's a sign of hesitation. If you really needed a new laptop right now, you wouldn't be comparing it to products that MIGHT be out in the next 6 months, you'd be comparing it to products that are available RIGHT NOW. And on that basis the SP3 is the best.
    07-07-2014 03:46 PM
  14. wynand32's Avatar
    Anyone who says they're waiting for "the next big thing" should probably wait.
    Not because there's something better coming (there's ALWAYS something better coming) but because it's a sign of hesitation. If you really needed a new laptop right now, you wouldn't be comparing it to products that MIGHT be out in the next 6 months, you'd be comparing it to products that are available RIGHT NOW. And on that basis the SP3 is the best.
    Agree. I mean, we buy these thing to _use them_, right? Sure, you can wait six months for a Broadwell version to be released, but I'd rather enjoy using today's SP3 in the meantime. And it's not like today's SP3 is going to suddenly be useless just because a newer version is released.
    07-07-2014 06:55 PM
  15. James8561's Avatar
    personally I'm waiting for either an updated SP3 with Broadwell SoC or even a SP4 (if they decide to up the version number after the SoC update)
    WillysJeepMan likes this.
    07-08-2014 03:57 AM
  16. badr0b0t's Avatar
    when the surface pro3 was first launched they said it cant get any thinner due to the size of the USB 3.0
    As far as I remember, there was a post a few month ago stating that the next generation of USB ports will be thinner ( the size of the iPhone 5 and 5S current charger) with that being said, this will allow the next generations of surfaces to be thinner if possible.
    the second issue is that surface pro 3 was made before Microsoft acquired Nokia

    My main concern is , is the surface pro 3 the ultimate laptop/tablet or should I be waiting for the next big thing from Microsoft after they acquired Nokia?
    And about the USB port . is it just an idea that will come to life in a few years or is it coming in 2015 ?
    At this point, I don't think the change in USB port size will happen soon. If it does, billions of peripherals will either become useless or buggy when used with adapters.
    USB 3.0 port's size was maintained to make it compatible with older USBs.

    And to wish for something thinner and then enclose it in a thick case is ridiculous. Thicker makes it sturdier without a case. Thinner makes it very fragile. Thus, the need for cases.
    07-08-2014 08:02 AM
  17. Bizarro_Prime's Avatar
    Things stopping me from getting a Surface Pro 3
    1. Lack of funds
    07-08-2014 09:25 AM
  18. badr0b0t's Avatar
    Things stopping me from getting a Surface Pro 3
    1. Lack of funds

    If you are not gonna use it for high-powered tasks, just get the ASUS T100. :) Only $400. Intel CPU, full Win 8.1 with office and comes with a keyboard dock. :D
    07-08-2014 09:34 AM
  19. Jazmac's Avatar
    Wait a couple years before making a decision to buy the Surface. It'll surely be thinner by then.
    07-08-2014 09:55 AM
  20. DJCBS's Avatar
    when the surface pro3 was first launched they said it cant get any thinner due to the size of the USB 3.0
    As far as I remember, there was a post a few month ago stating that the next generation of USB ports will be thinner ( the size of the iPhone 5 and 5S current charger) with that being said, this will allow the next generations of surfaces to be thinner if possible.
    the second issue is that surface pro 3 was made before Microsoft acquired Nokia

    My main concern is , is the surface pro 3 the ultimate laptop/tablet or should I be waiting for the next big thing from Microsoft after they acquired Nokia?
    And about the USB port . is it just an idea that will come to life in a few years or is it coming in 2015 ?
    Two things:

    1 - The next generation of USB ports is still a long way. Unless you want a device that will have a next-gen USB port that you will not be using with basically any existing hardware, I'd say that shouldn't be a concern. MicroUSB would even be a better option than going with any next-gen USB ports.
    I wouldn't expect the next generation of USB ports to come that soon either.

    2 - Microsoft didn't acquire Nokia.
    Microsoft bought employees from Nokia's ex-D&S division. At any rate, that will have nothing to do with the Surface, as the Surface comes from Microsoft itself and the ex-Nokia employees were placed in Microsoft Mobile, a separate company that Microsoft created. Also, probably half of those employees will be sacked soon as Microsoft will obviously not keep such a large team on Mobile.
    Microsoft Mobile will not be producing the Surfaces either. If anything, they'll be producing Lumia tablets which will very likely be WP/RT tablets. MOBILE tablets. The Surface will likely remain a full blown Windows hybrid that will come from another division (kinda like the Xbox) and it will remain the ultimate laptop/tablet until another OEM or Microsoft itself replaces it with the next generation, as usual.
    07-08-2014 12:52 PM
  21. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    Microsoft bought employees from Nokia's ex-D&S division.
    The Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery.
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    07-08-2014 01:18 PM
  22. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    cash, cash is the only thing stopping me from buying one right now, with the best buy blue keyboard.
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    07-08-2014 01:44 PM
  23. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    When they can do this with small tablet with full windows buying a SPx seems like a waste of $$.
    Things are really going to change next year. SP3 seems dated by comparison. Heck my old SP2 seems ancient.

    ThinkPad 8 Dockable Windows 8 Business Tablet | Lenovo (US)
    A nice tablet, but you can't really compare intel Atom to Core series, especially not i5 and i7. ThinkPad 8 is a completely different category than Surface Pro.
    07-08-2014 02:09 PM
  24. badMojo69's Avatar
    A nice tablet, but you can't really compare intel Atom to Core series, especially not i5 and i7. ThinkPad 8 is a completely different category than Surface Pro.
    Technically you're right, but my guess is most people don't really use the full power of the SP3. I know I didn't really use my SP2 which is why I sold it for an S2. Still I think the design is going to be a ton better with SP3.5 this November. :)
    07-08-2014 07:48 PM
  25. DJCBS's Avatar
    The Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery.
    And the Second Amendment allows any nut-case in the US to hold an arsenal at home.

    Luckily for us, any Harry Potter book has more value in Europe than the US Constitution ;D
    Jazmac likes this.
    07-08-2014 07:54 PM
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