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  1. Closingracer's Avatar
    For Goodness sake don't tell Bolt he will come live next door to you, dig your garden and mow your lawn! lol

    Sounds to me a wise choice you made.

    Have a great 2016, Ryland


    LOL. I seen his posts and just sounds like a crazy fanboy. The M3 happens to be the cheapest model and for me I don't need a powerhouse for my needs. I have a laptop with 8gb of RAM, an Intel i7 -4710MQ which is clocked at 2.5 and turbo boost up to 3.5ghz and a nvidia 970m gpu. I have that for at home and just need this for notes and papers for college while in school.
    12-31-2015 07:23 PM
  2. ryland Johnson's Avatar
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    Last edited by ryland Johnson; 01-02-2016 at 11:22 AM.
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    12-31-2015 07:46 PM
  3. onlysublime's Avatar
    Good choice. Happy New Year! See everyone next year!
    12-31-2015 10:49 PM
  4. Ron Simpson's Avatar
    I'm sure you must already know you can get a LOT of laptop for that kind of money. Agree on the charging aspect. Laptop chargers are getting smaller, though
    01-01-2016 02:57 PM
  5. Closingracer's Avatar
    I'm sure you must already know you can get a LOT of laptop for that kind of money. Agree on the charging aspect. Laptop chargers are getting smaller, though


    Oh know lol and I'm debating it still but I have my heart set on a surface pro 4. I really do like the pen and the fact it's a "tablet" still. I'm looking between a Macbook Air, sp4 and a few laptops like the Dell XPS 13 and some others on the Microsoft store but I keep coming back to the sp4 and the pen.
    01-01-2016 04:46 PM
  6. Ron Simpson's Avatar
    Happy New Year everyone!
    I like the thinking of applying the right amount of power where its needed. MY main PC is a Pro4 in my home office with a Pluggable dock, but I have a "Mini-Office" in the family room (a tiny gate leg table that I can pull up to the couch between my knees), where I use a Surface 2 with type cover. It works great for every business and personal need. Low-cost, High-service. As portable as these two units are, they rarely move from these positions. My real mobile needs around the house and outside are handled by a Dell Venue 8 Pro and my Lumia 920. Heavy work outside the house can be supported by either Surface, unplug and go.
    01-01-2016 07:02 PM
  7. Ron Simpson's Avatar
    If you go the 4, you'll love it. It has easily replaced my HP dv7, so when it's time to lug, I'll be lugging less. Take a look at my other post.
    I don't get why any person doing business (regular business, not broadcast or press) would think Apple anything. Business does not have the time to wedge in non-Windows devices, especially over time. Using common platforms means best integration, least overall learning curves, best collaboration.
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    01-01-2016 07:14 PM
  8. Closingracer's Avatar
    If you go the 4, you'll love it. It has easily replaced my HP dv7, so when it's time to lug, I'll be lugging less. Take a look at my other post.
    I don't get why any person doing business (regular business, not broadcast or press) would think Apple anything. Business does not have the time to wedge in non-Windows devices, especially over time. Using common platforms means best integration, least overall learning curves, best collaboration.


    Eh Apple devices aren't that bad specially if you've used them before. For me I basically only need Microsoft Office so a Macbook would work in theory. Still am considering it because the 11 inch and 13 inch air is still cheaper if you include the type cover. Granted I am leaning towards the surface because it is windows.


    I also have an iPad for now and an iPhone and the integration is a factor why I am considering a Macbook Air.
    01-01-2016 07:18 PM
  9. thatdennis's Avatar
    Honestly the only thing that sets apart the SP4 and other laptops is the portability, screen res, and pen+ OneNote integration.

    I'm in college too, starting second semester soon, and let me tell you the Surface is a godsend when taking notes. It's easier to take notes with the pen (can erase quickly and draw diagrams fast), and easier to organize your notes.

    Also, you can record lectures in case a professor doesn't want to use textbooks.

    The SP4 might fit the bill for you, but since you don't do intensive stuff, the SP3 might be the cheaper option. The fan should rarely kick in as usage is minimal.

    On another note, can you recommend any good macroeconomics textbooks?

    Edit: Happy New Years everyone!
    01-01-2016 08:42 PM
  10. Ron Simpson's Avatar
    Eh Apple devices aren't that bad specially if you've used them before. For me I basically only need Microsoft Office so a Macbook would work in theory. Still am considering it because the 11 inch and 13 inch air is still cheaper if you include the type cover. Granted I am leaning towards the surface because it is windows.


    I also have an iPad for now and an iPhone and the integration is a factor why I am considering a Macbook Air.
    I would guess you do not work for a business that is Windows-based. If you did, then the integration of using the same personal platforms at home as well as the office would be the right move, without a doubt.
    01-01-2016 08:45 PM
  11. Closingracer's Avatar
    I would guess you do not work for a business that is Windows-based. If you did, then the integration of using the same personal platforms at home as well as the office would be the right move, without a doubt.
    I don't. I understand how that is useful but for me it's just about value and what makes it the easiest for me for college.
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    01-01-2016 09:10 PM
  12. Closingracer's Avatar
    Honestly the only thing that sets apart the SP4 and other laptops is the portability, screen res, and pen+ OneNote integration.

    I'm in college too, starting second semester soon, and let me tell you the Surface is a godsend when taking notes. It's easier to take notes with the pen (can erase quickly and draw diagrams fast), and easier to organize your notes.

    Also, you can record lectures in case a professor doesn't want to use textbooks.

    The SP4 might fit the bill for you, but since you don't do intensive stuff, the SP3 might be the cheaper option. The fan should rarely kick in as usage is minimal.

    On another note, can you recommend any good macroeconomics textbooks?

    Edit: Happy New Years everyone!



    The funny part is I just passed my macroeconomics class with an A- lol. The college I go to had their special book which took only a small part of it so I wouldn't know :(. Even than I never really opened it up lol. The sp3 probably is a better fit for me but the cheapest option the i3 model doesn't even come with the pen and the models after the $599 i3 model is similarly priced to the sp4 I I am better off getting the sp4 anyways.



    Actually probably going to sell my iPad Air 2 so this way I can make it easier on my wallet so probably end up getting the i5 model so this way I could play some games on it.

    I can get the i5 model at Bestbuy for $899 which is why I'm considering it.
    01-01-2016 09:15 PM
  13. sjaduae's Avatar
    Eh Apple devices aren't that bad specially if you've used them before. For me I basically only need Microsoft Office so a Macbook would work in theory. Still am considering it because the 11 inch and 13 inch air is still cheaper if you include the type cover. Granted I am leaning towards the surface because it is windows.
    I also have an iPad for now and an iPhone and the integration is a factor why I am considering a Macbook Air.
    There's no reason not to use Windows on and Mac, bootcamp works very well I have owned many MBA's and have exclusively run windows on them ie I like the hardware but not the OS

    I have been using the rMB 12" for some months now and it's a very fine laptop and if you are in the US you should be able to find a rMB (open box or discounted etc) much closer to your price point.

    Once you get over the initial learning curve of the KB the screen is just soo much nicer than the MBA's and as you already have tablet consumption devices unless you really want to go without them via the SP4's you could not go wrong with the Mackbook IMO for portability and day to day use

    Equally the SP4 would cover most of your consumption needs and laptop requirements plus other functionality ie pen in one device, after all synching with you IPhone is not an issue with windows

    An added benefit of windows on an Apple device is separate font and windows scaling many complain that the OSX on the 12" retina is too small but when running windows you can adjust the system fonts etc without changing resolution which compromises your workspace more
    Last edited by sjaduae; 01-02-2016 at 02:32 AM.
    01-02-2016 02:13 AM
  14. thatdennis's Avatar
    The funny part is I just passed my macroeconomics class with an A- lol. The college I go to had their special book which took only a small part of it so I wouldn't know :(. Even than I never really opened it up lol. The sp3 probably is a better fit for me but the cheapest option the i3 model doesn't even come with the pen and the models after the $599 i3 model is similarly priced to the sp4 I I am better off getting the sp4 anyways.



    Actually probably going to sell my iPad Air 2 so this way I can make it easier on my wallet so probably end up getting the i5 model so this way I could play some games on it.

    I can get the i5 model at Bestbuy for $899 which is why I'm considering it.
    Huh that sucks. I hated professors who don't use textbooks, got a C because of no textbooks :(

    Now if the SP3 i3 is not good enough and the i5 is the same as the m3, I would honestly choose the SP4 m3 then. It has Windows Hello, better Microsoft support and you don't lose out much. The m3's like an i4 on SP3 terms, but you also get the benefit of a newer machine.
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    01-02-2016 09:30 AM
  15. Closingracer's Avatar
    Huh that sucks. I hated professors who don't use textbooks, got a C because of no textbooks :(

    Now if the SP3 i3 is not good enough and the i5 is the same as the m3, I would honestly choose the SP4 m3 then. It has Windows Hello, better Microsoft support and you don't lose out much. The m3's like an i4 on SP3 terms, but you also get the benefit of a newer machine.
    Actually we were supposed to use it but the online component didn't work which was our homework so he gave it up :(



    With a student discount I can get the sp4 i5 for the same price as the m3 so I'll actually be getting that.
    01-02-2016 09:33 AM
  16. Closingracer's Avatar
    Went to bestbuy and got the i5 model since I had $100 off since I had a coupon for being a student. I quite like the device so far



    Note the M3 model wasn't part of the coupon so I figured for the same price as the M3 I'll get the i5 but I was sort of curious about the fan less model the M3 had
    01-02-2016 06:13 PM
  17. Closingracer's Avatar
    I have been playing around with it and I quite like the device. Feels like a laptop for me so I guess I'll be using my main one less unless it is to game on and I love the pen support.
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    01-03-2016 02:57 AM
  18. mr_fomo's Avatar
    I have been playing around with it and I quite like the device. Feels like a laptop for me so I guess I'll be using my main one less unless it is to game on and I love the pen support.
    Great stuff!
    If you haven't already, you might consider creating an additional, battery-friendly power profile.
    Guides can be found Windowscentral's articles and the forum.
    01-03-2016 04:01 AM
  19. Closingracer's Avatar
    Great stuff!
    If you haven't already, you might consider creating an additional, battery-friendly power profile.
    Guides can be found Windowscentral's articles and the forum.
    I'm actually going to run this in the default settings for a few days and see what happens..I don't really need the device until March when my semester starts so I can mess around with it for now
    01-03-2016 02:43 PM
  20. snakebitten's Avatar
    Late to the conversation, but the Core M Surface Pro 4 has so many things going for it in the $Value equation. A really nice configuration for the average demands. However, with Microsoft gimping it to 4 Gigs of ram, it was a deal breaker and I stepped up, just as Microsoft was hoping\forcing me to. (I still love the device)

    However, at CES 2016, Lenovo just showed off their ThinkPad branded tablet and it has Core M with up to 16 Gigs of ram. And it has a really interesting form factor with optional batteries and keyboards and such.

    I'm hoping Microsoft responds to these newest OEM products by removing the 4 Gig Ram limit on the SP4 M-core.
    The second I can get 8 Gigs on the SP4, my new I5-SP4 becomes a hand-me-down. (Although I have not ruled out the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 tablet)
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    01-04-2016 12:37 PM
  21. Closingracer's Avatar
    Update: unfortunately I exchanged my surface pro 4 for a Macbook Pro 13 inch. Similar specs but with 8gb of ram. I found battery life to be poor and the pen wasn't as accurate as I liked with my writing style since it's not the greatest to begin with. Only did about 75% of the time input my writing on the screen. I like the device and who knows when I am looking to replace my windows laptop which will still be my main device since it's bigger maybe I'll consider a surface pro 6 or 7? Battery life will only improve with better batteries.
    01-05-2016 11:17 AM
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