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11-19-2015 05:29 PM
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  1. saintforlife's Avatar
    I haven't even received my SP4 yet, but the heating and excessive fan noise are bothering me already.

    I am a light user - web browsing, Netflix, YouTube streaming and office apps. The most resource intensive task I do on the machine might be some Excel work with sheets with a couple of thousands lines of data.

    Should I have got the M3 to begin with? I went with the i5 because I wanted it to be a little future proof. But fan noise when streaming YouTube of Netflix when I'm in bed is a deal breaker for me.

    Thoughts?
    11-03-2015 04:21 AM
  2. GatsbyGlen's Avatar
    I have an i5 and fan/noise is not an issue with youtube, Netflix or browsing. The only time I heard the fan was initial setup, installing office, syncing OneDrive initially and benchmarking.
    11-03-2015 04:33 AM
  3. ryankelsey7's Avatar
    I've never heard the fan on my i5, but I wouldn't care if it did come on. The speakers on this thing are crazy good.
    11-03-2015 04:40 AM
  4. badMojo69's Avatar
    I was going to but decided against it especially after yesterdays firmware update. Most issues have been resolved for me.
    Passive cooling is now on, no more display driver issues and no more heat. I had if off the charger last night and have about the same amount of juice this morning. I blame windows hello for the battery drain/heat issues I was having. I have it off now. I did notice a slight whisper of fan after hours of youtube with several app open. I closed some windows and the whisper went away.
    11-03-2015 05:55 AM
  5. theefman's Avatar
    I would go with the M3. Once a device has a fan inevitably it will come on. I had an i5 SP3 and most people said theirs was silent too but i had tons of fan noise especially during the winter with the heating on so while others said they had none i had it almost all the time.
    11-03-2015 06:09 AM
  6. ioaniro's Avatar
    In my opinion if you already ordered the i5 and assuming you can return it afterwards, I would first test it and see if it lives to your expectations. You should have a 2 weeks window (or more depending on where you get it from) to return it free of charge I think?

    Edit: I would also be interested in the M3 but with 256 SSD and optional 8gb ram something you can't configure atm
    11-03-2015 06:40 AM
  7. GatsbyGlen's Avatar
    I've never heard the fan on my i5, but I wouldn't care if it did come on. The speakers on this thing are crazy good.
    You might, it's pretty damn loud when it kicks on :)
    11-03-2015 07:20 AM
  8. GatsbyGlen's Avatar
    In my opinion if you already ordered the i5 and assuming you can return it afterwards, I would first test it and see if it lives to your expectations. You should have a 2 weeks window (or more depending on where you get it from) to return it free of charge I think?

    Edit: I would also be interested in the M3 but with 256 SSD and optional 8gb ram something you can't configure atm
    I agree with testing it first. I have another 7 or 8 days to test mine - who knows, maybe I'll return it :)

    As for the M3, does anyone know or can say what model SSD came with theirs (Toshiba vs Samsung)? There are some threads out there that suggest it comes with a slower SSD than the i5 model, but that's by bench-marking standards and not by "would you really notice it".
    11-03-2015 07:24 AM
  9. DCProjMgr's Avatar
    Yes! Get the Core M. It is perfect for your use case and you are throwing away battery life feeding processor and RAM that isn't making your experience any better.
    saintforlife likes this.
    11-03-2015 12:00 PM
  10. boltman2013's Avatar
    Get the M3....

    Max temp 42 (without any fans)
    Avg running 32

    Its the PERFECT processor for this device and 9.9 Wei on 3d Graphics
    i5 will not be worth $100 extra and come with fans and more power draw and heat...less moving parts the better and the M3 is absolutely silent.
    11-03-2015 12:27 PM
  11. Derman's Avatar
    for what it's worth...

    My i5 was a brick and - based on comments - I returned it for the M3. I'm doing similar usage - MS office apps, web, and streaming. The fanless design of the M3 really sold me - my SP2 heats up and the fan gets going, so I would expect that to continue with the i5 and i7 models. And I saved $600.
    11-03-2015 01:28 PM
  12. Christopher Senn1's Avatar
    Is it me or are the M3 fans totally overlooking the possibility of getting the much cheaper and highly rated Surface 3 instead?

    Why get Pro4 instead of the Surface 3 if you arent going to utilize the i5 or i7?
    11-03-2015 02:14 PM
  13. boltman2013's Avatar
    Is it me or are the M3 fans totally overlooking the possibility of getting the much cheaper and highly rated Surface 3 instead?

    Why get Pro4 instead of the Surface 3 if you arent going to utilize the i5 or i7?
    Display, processor , size, keyboard and capabilities?

    i5 and i7 are overrated in the SP..the M3 is quite fast enough. At several hundred over the S3 too get all the above is a no brainer.
    11-03-2015 03:33 PM
  14. mertzi's Avatar
    Is it me or are the M3 fans totally overlooking the possibility of getting the much cheaper and highly rated Surface 3 instead?

    Why get Pro4 instead of the Surface 3 if you arent going to utilize the i5 or i7?
    6Y30 is 3 times faster than Z8500. Benchmarks are scarce but it's somewhere between last gen i3 and i5.
    11-04-2015 12:42 AM
  15. badMojo69's Avatar
    If it came in 8 and 256 gb configurations i'd say yes and for most normal tablet use i'd still say yes.
    For someone that likes to run vm's and do some gaming I have to say go with the i5.

    From I have read the m does run hotter than the i5, but that is the trade off for no fan.
    Microsoft Corporation Surface 3 vs Microsoft Corporation Surface Pro 4 - Geekbench Browser

    Vs the old S3 which is what I have and it would have been a great base upgrade for me, but I wanted more.
    ioaniro likes this.
    11-04-2015 06:27 AM
  16. boltman2013's Avatar
    If it came in 8 and 256 gb configurations i'd say yes and for most normal tablet use i'd still say yes.
    For someone that likes to run vm's and do some gaming I have to say go with the i5.

    From I have read the m does run hotter than the i5, but that is the trade off for no fan.
    Microsoft Corporation Surface 3 vs Microsoft Corporation Surface Pro 4 - Geekbench Browser

    Vs the old S3 which is what I have and it would have been a great base upgrade for me, but I wanted more.
    Hotter? My M3 has never gone above 45 C...and usually operates at 37 with a low of 30
    At most the back can be described as tepid warm like a cup of tea that has been sitting for a while and not warm like you would drink tea
    11-04-2015 08:54 AM
  17. badMojo69's Avatar
    Depends on what you're doing. If its gaming with no fan it will run hotter.
    11-04-2015 10:05 AM
  18. Witness's Avatar
    Should I have got the M3 to begin with? I went with the i5 because...

    Thoughts?
    Just came here to say that when I saw the post's title, I wondered why the top thread at the moment was about the BMW i5 vs BMW M3.
    saintforlife likes this.
    11-04-2015 01:02 PM
  19. Geo Hutchings's Avatar
    I haven't even received my SP4 yet, but the heating and excessive fan noise are bothering me already.

    I am a light user - web browsing, Netflix, YouTube streaming and office apps. The most resource intensive task I do on the machine might be some Excel work with sheets with a couple of thousands lines of data.

    Should I have got the M3 to begin with? I went with the i5 because I wanted it to be a little future proof. But fan noise when streaming YouTube of Netflix when I'm in bed is a deal breaker for me.

    Thoughts?
    You can put it in to power saying thus no fan noise, its what I do on my surface pro 3
    11-04-2015 09:29 PM
  20. Geo Hutchings's Avatar
    SURFACE PRO 3
    screenshot-311-.jpg

    In power saving it runs at 1.08 GHz about 35-41c fan off
    screenshot-312-.jpg.

    High performance 2.65ghz 60-70c fan turns on

    I clocked it to 1.4ghz which feels much better but still cool and no fans
    screenshot-313-.jpg
    Last edited by Geo Hutchings; 11-05-2015 at 12:40 AM.
    11-04-2015 09:32 PM
  21. Jazmac's Avatar
    Funnest post ever.

    So I got this stone in my shoe while I'm out jogging. After about 10 minutes, it hurt so bad I'm limping on the track. I don't jog as much as I used to, maybe 4 miles at least 5 times a week but I have to get my run in and did I say these shoes look great? Waited 6 months for em to come out and when the store opened, I grabbed em bit this stone is killing my foot. Should I take off my shoe and remove the stone or just ignore it because these Jordan's look great on my feet?
    11-04-2015 10:31 PM
  22. Geo Hutchings's Avatar
    I haven't even received my SP4 yet, but the heating and excessive fan noise are bothering me already.

    I am a light user - web browsing, Netflix, YouTube streaming and office apps. The most resource intensive task I do on the machine might be some Excel work with sheets with a couple of thousands lines of data.

    Should I have got the M3 to begin with? I went with the i5 because I wanted it to be a little future proof. But fan noise when streaming YouTube of Netflix when I'm in bed is a deal breaker for me.

    Thoughts?

    So keep your order man, the I5 is beast and gives you more freedom and in two years time your computer will run things faster as programs get lighter :)
    11-05-2015 12:42 AM
  23. poddie's Avatar
    I've been trying to decide if the m3 would be enough for my wife's computer. I know she would appreciate no fan noise. But I want it to be snappy too, and I don't want lag. Decisions, decisions.
    11-05-2015 07:56 AM
  24. boltman2013's Avatar
    I've been trying to decide if the m3 would be enough for my wife's computer. I know she would appreciate no fan noise. But I want it to be snappy too, and I don't want lag. Decisions, decisions.
    There is no "lag" save money and get her an M3 she'll thank you for being smart and not wasting money plus it runs cool.

    M3 is the best computer I have ever used apart from my sons Devils Canyon i7 desktop.
    That includes my own i5-3570K desktop and my old i3 Vaio. Of course it cant do everything my desktop or Vaio do due to 4GB of Ram BUT for the things I need it to do it flies. Your wife I can guarantee does not push her computer as I do.
    Last edited by boltman2013; 11-08-2015 at 05:37 AM.
    11-05-2015 08:08 AM
  25. poddie's Avatar
    I ordered hee the m3. She mostly does browsing and meeting note taking. Supposed to be here Wednesday. I have an i7 16GB/256GB on order for myself... I run VMs, and develop software, and would like to so some light gaming (mainly Street Fighter V as that won't be on Xbox One). Will be interesting to compare the two.
    11-08-2015 04:41 AM
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