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  1. zimbo94's Avatar
    Hello there, I've heard that the surface is prone to scratches. I really don't like covers since they would ruin Surface's brilliant design. Therefore I'm wondering if a full body clear (maybe matte?) skin could do the job. Or, maybe, is just a simple sleeve enough?
    Is there any feedback from you?

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    12-12-2015 06:21 AM
  2. Brownartist's Avatar
    Check stickerboy for sp4
    12-12-2015 07:15 AM
  3. onlysublime's Avatar
    I've used DecalGIrl and Skinit. Both are great.

    I'll post some pics. DecalGirl offers glossy and matte. Skinit was glossy only the last time I used it. However, I do prefer the glossy because the matte doesn't stand out (I've owned both glossy and matte).

    Skins are definitely great for protection. When they get scratched up or damaged, just peel it off and apply a new skin.
    12-12-2015 10:31 PM
  4. boltman2013's Avatar
    Hello there, I've heard that the surface is prone to scratches. I really don't like covers since they would ruin Surface's brilliant design. Therefore I'm wondering if a full body clear (maybe matte?) skin could do the job. Or, maybe, is just a simple sleeve enough?
    Is there any feedback from you?

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    Surface is NOT prone to scratches.
    12-12-2015 10:43 PM
  5. zimbo94's Avatar
    Thank you for your replies guys. Let's answer in order:

    To Brownartist:
    However I'm not sure if he produces transparent ones.

    To onlysublime:
    Did you damage your skin yet? Also I prefer matte because I don't want to alter surface's look.

    To boltman2013:
    Really? So you don't raccommend putting a skin to me, right? Is using just a sleeve enough for protection?
    12-13-2015 11:03 AM
  6. boltman2013's Avatar
    Thank you for your replies guys. Let's answer in order:

    To Brownartist:
    However I'm not sure if he produces transparent ones.

    To onlysublime:
    Did you damage your skin yet? Also I prefer matte because I don't want to alter surface's look.

    To boltman2013:
    Really? So you don't raccommend putting a skin to me, right? Is using just a sleeve enough for protection?
    Its the car bra thing... why cover beauty?

    I don't get people who buy expensive objects that have already been designed to withstand damage or to be thin and the first thing they do is cover it up with a cheap case, film or skin...I also dislike bumper stickers and calvin peeing crap too.

    Look at it this way.... if you cover it it will never look as intended by the original designers..who probably know better what works.

    Only cover I ever do is tempered glass..on the phone in my pocket.

    You are not putting surface in you pocket.
    Last edited by boltman2013; 12-14-2015 at 11:01 AM.
    12-13-2015 11:56 AM
  7. unni_kmr's Avatar
    Surface is NOT prone to scratches.
    I got one on mine within 2 weeks of purchase. :(
    12-13-2015 01:23 PM
  8. Devhux's Avatar
    I got one on mine within 2 weeks of purchase. :(
    Same here!
    12-13-2015 02:01 PM
  9. onlysublime's Avatar
    Skins will eventually scratch like anything else. After a year or so, you'll see nicks and scratches at various places on the skin, mostly near the edges. But better to scratch up a skin than the body of the Surface.

    When I peel off a skin, the Surface looks like it just came factory out of the box. Just pristine. Let the skin bear the brunt of the damage.
    12-14-2015 12:38 AM
  10. zimbo94's Avatar
    Skins will eventually scratch like anything else. After a year or so, you'll see nicks and scratches at various places on the skin, mostly near the edges. But better to scratch up a skin than the body of the Surface.

    When I peel off a skin, the Surface looks like it just came factory out of the box. Just pristine. Let the skin bear the brunt of the damage.
    Yeah, can you post some pictures of yours?

    Also I would like to know if other people use these things on their surfaces. I'd like to get some feedback on how a matte skin changes the "touch and visual feeling" compared to the magnesium one.
    12-14-2015 10:27 AM
  11. onlysublime's Avatar
    I'll post the latest ones I have for my Surface Pro 4 and Surface Pro 2 (both sporting the glossy). The last time I got the matte was for my Surface RT or Surface 2 (forgot which one).

    As for feel, it's kind of in-between the feel of vinyl (like with stickers) and stationary paper if that makes sense. You won't feel the texture of the VaporMg.

    I do have old pictures posted previously. These are matte and from my Surface RT:
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    This is glossy from my Surface Pro 2 (i5/8GB/512GB):
    a5dnk5k.jpg

    This is glossy from my other Surface Pro 2 (i5/8GB/256GB):
    jwk8y7h.jpg

    It's hard to take pictures. The glossy ones were taken at night. It's hard to tell but to get colors to pop, you need the glossy. You'll notice (hopefully) the color is more intense with glossy.

    I haven't posted the ones for the Surface Pro 4 yet. Also, the skin not only is for the back, but also for the front and for the side edges.
    12-14-2015 04:44 PM
  12. wpctrlfan's Avatar
    I got one on mine within 2 weeks of purchase. :(
    Large scratch on SP4 i7 after 2 days of light use... Very disappointed. SP3 has been much more durable for me.
    12-14-2015 04:52 PM
  13. eran says's Avatar
    What are all of you doing that you are getting scratches on the SP4? I think I would have to have thrown it in the bag with my keys to get any scratches on this thing. You know its not a frisbee right?
    12-14-2015 05:04 PM
  14. Devhux's Avatar
    Nothing out of the ordinary. Laying it down on a table and moving it while picking it up is all I can think caused mine to scratch.

    It's definitely not as resilient to scratches as you'd think (and possibly worse than other Surface devices)
    12-14-2015 08:00 PM
  15. boltman2013's Avatar
    Nothing out of the ordinary. Laying it down on a table and moving it while picking it up is all I can think caused mine to scratch.

    It's definitely not as resilient to scratches as you'd think (and possibly worse than other Surface devices)
    Ever think of only laying it on the Type Cover side only? Maybe a microfiber lined case too?
    Think most of these scratches are user error , not thinking.
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    12-14-2015 11:10 PM
  16. Tuono's Avatar
    Ordered one of these in black, will post some pictures and a review once I pick it up next week.

    Incipio Feather for Surface Pro 4

    My main reason for wanting a slim cover was that my SP4 is replacing my MacBook Air and traditional notepad and pen. I wanted some extra protection when using the SP4 in tablet mode, when laid flat on a desk.

    Can't post links yet, as I've only just joined the forum, but Google Incipio surface pro 4 feather for the details.
    12-15-2015 02:55 AM
  17. onlysublime's Avatar
    Case are nice. The main advantage is some minor protection against drops (which skins do nothing to help). But they're so bulky and almost defeat the nice look for the Surface Pro 4.
    12-15-2015 04:42 AM
  18. wpctrlfan's Avatar
    Ever think of only laying it on the Type Cover side only? Maybe a microfiber lined case too?
    Think most of these scratches are user error , not thinking.
    I was using a SP3 at work and never followed any particular rules how to lay it down / avoid scratches etc. After 1 year it still locks decent even though it has scratches.

    My 2 days of SP4 instantly got scratched when using at home on a wooden table surface. I believe that the SP4 paint is different from the SP3 paint.

    If I don't use the SP4 laying flat down (as a tablet) on hard surfaces then there wont be any scratches for sure.
    Have to be triple extra careful with the SP4 from now on.
    12-15-2015 07:24 AM
  19. tennisfan#AC's Avatar
    Ordered one of these in black, will post some pictures and a review once I pick it up next week.

    Incipio Feather for Surface Pro 4

    My main reason for wanting a slim cover was that my SP4 is replacing my MacBook Air and traditional notepad and pen. I wanted some extra protection when using the SP4 in tablet mode, when laid flat on a desk.

    Can't post links yet, as I've only just joined the forum, but Google Incipio surface pro 4 feather for the details.
    I tried to find the Incipio Feather for Surface Pro 4 but could not find it. I find it for the SP3 with no problem. Who did you purchase this case from?

    Update: I purchased this case directly from the Incipio website for $44.99. I never did find it on Amazon or any other site. And yes, I am aware that some don't agree with covering the SP4 because of hiding it's gorgeous design. To be honest, I mostly agree with that argument. I am not really concerned with scratches as I am with banging up the sides and corners of my SP4. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I need to be careful and 98% of the time I am very careful in how I treat my SP4. But for me, and I can only speak for me, if this case works out then I am going to give it a try. And if turns out to be a cheap case then I will go back to using my SP4 with no case at all.

    Here is the link for this case: http://www.incipio.com/cases/tablet-...ace-pro-4.html

    I have used this case for a couple of days now and so far so good. I wish they sold a clear case instead of black, blue, pink, or red. But I am still able to use the kickstand and the type cover with no issues at all.
    Last edited by tennisfan#AC; 12-17-2015 at 02:54 PM.
    12-15-2015 09:28 AM
  20. unni_kmr's Avatar
    Here is my Incipio Truman Sleeve. The material didn't feel cheap. I bought this mainly because it was thin. The padding inside is slightly thick. I think that will give sufficient protection while travelling, but if I could find another case with more padding, I will replace this. You will have to carry the power brick separately.

    I also got Stickerboy skins.

    The first two pics are of the "Silver Brushed Aluminum". I initially purchased "White Stealth Matte" thinking the word "stealth" implies that it is transparent. The last 3 photos are with the "White Stealth Matte" skin.

    I definitely recommend the Stickerboy skins. They were really easy to apply, easier that putting a screen guard on a mobile phone. The installation video here was also useful.
    Last edited by unni_kmr; 12-29-2015 at 11:49 AM.
    12-29-2015 11:19 AM
  21. HOTDAWG's Avatar
    I second Stickerboy.
    I have the silver carbon fiber decal only on the back of my surface (I'm only worried about sliding around on tabletops) and you can't tell it's there. Unless someone else is a surface owner, no one realizes anything is on it.

    Might not be necessary, but makes me feel better. In only use the back panel though, I refuse to put anything on the glass side or keyboard, and the tiny strips for the sides don't seem worthwhile.
    12-30-2015 10:49 AM
  22. windwolf447's Avatar
    But I wonder if there is any bad effect on the cooling if I use these kind of skins?
    01-02-2016 08:42 AM
  23. HOTDAWG's Avatar
    No, doesn't cover the vents and metal doesn't breathe.
    01-02-2016 05:50 PM
  24. fj_cruiser's Avatar
    I am surprised (do not own any Surface product yet) that the Magnesium alloy would scratch so easily (if we were to believe some of the claims here). I have seen many Surface items (SP4, SP3, and S3) in several different stores and I have made it a point to examine them closely for I know people are not very careful handling those display/demo units, but I have never seen a Surface that had scratches or dings that were apparent.
    As I said, I could be wrong because I do not own one yet but I still tend to believe that its going to take more to scratch like as mentioned here.

    That said, I am going to buy an SP4 anyway and will not be putting any skin on it. I have several ipods and iphones sitting in the drawer that look like they are in pristine condition, in appearance, (were always cased and babied) but are actually dead... so what's the point!?! I am going to enjoy the SP4 the way MS designed and meant it to be.
    01-03-2016 08:39 AM
  25. fj_cruiser's Avatar
    No, doesn't cover the vents and metal doesn't breathe.
    Yes, it doesn't breathe, but the heat is dissipated to the surrounding by convection and by adding a plastic (or other material) layer on top of the metal surface, I am afraid it will add a thermal barrier and slow down the heat transfer.
    01-03-2016 08:45 AM
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