11-10-2019 10:08 AM
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  1. Razius's Avatar
    It's been stated that it's an M.2 form factor. Looking at the brief moments they show it in the videos, it looks like a 2226 size possibly. Took a quick look online, and while it's a standard M.2 size, I can't find anyone actually making an SSD that size. Seems to defeat the purpose of having removeable storage if only Microsoft can provide a replacement at hyper inflated prices.
    I read elsewhere, but it was confirmed to be a M.2 2230. There aren't too many of those drives around, but did find one available that was M.2 2230 512Gb for $100. It was a Western Digital 750 I think.
    10-16-2019 10:55 AM
  2. Razius's Avatar
    What's the price range for a 2230 ssd of 256gb?
    I found a 512Gb M.2 2230 for sale for $100 yesterday.
    nate0 likes this.
    10-16-2019 10:56 AM
  3. nate0's Avatar
    I found a 512Gb M.2 2230 for sale for $100 yesterday.
    Clearly Microsoft's m.2 ssd drives are made from diamonds then...
    10-16-2019 11:59 AM
  4. Razius's Avatar
    I guess. Just looked up the model I found. It's a Western Digital SN520 M.2 NVME 2230 SSD for $95.62 pre tax.
    10-16-2019 12:14 PM
  5. Dusteater's Avatar
    Found some more info today and exactly what drive MS is using. It's a Toshiba BG4, which will only be available to OEM's.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/14962/the-toshiba-kioxia-bg4-1tb-ssd-review
    10-21-2019 12:57 PM
  6. Dusteater's Avatar
    Clearly Microsoft's m.2 ssd drives are made from diamonds then...
    Yup, considering they are charging you $600 to upgrade from a 128GB to a 512GB. I mean seriosly, how can they get away with this?
    10-21-2019 01:02 PM
  7. bulls96's Avatar
    Yup, considering they are charging you $600 to upgrade from a 128GB to a 512GB. I mean seriosly, how can they get away with this?
    They kind of have the Apple-complex now tbh. Charge whatever we want coz they're Surface, #andistillbuythem
    10-21-2019 01:14 PM
  8. tgp's Avatar
    #andistillbuythem
    This is exactly why they charge what they do. If you'll pay $600 for the upgrade, why would they charge you $100? Any product's value is what the customer is willing to pay for it.
    10-21-2019 01:27 PM
  9. Dusteater's Avatar
    This is exactly why they charge what they do. If you'll pay $600 for the upgrade, why would they charge you $100? Any product's value is what the customer is willing to pay for it.
    I certainly won't pay it. I've decided to go with an iPad Pro. They charge half the amount for the same storage upgrades.

    It's a shame none of the other big PC makers are making 2-in-1 detachables anymore. Guess that leading by example thing isn't working out for Microsoft.
    10-21-2019 01:32 PM
  10. tgp's Avatar
    I certainly won't pay it.
    Somebody will. Vendors know that there is a fine line between sales volumes and markups. The higher the markup, the lower the volume. The lower the markup, the higher the volume. Taking all things into consideration, they attempt to set the price that returns the most profit.

    For example, if the markup is $1, and you sell 100 widgets, you gain $100. If the markup is $100, you are obviously going to sell less volume because it costs $99 more. So you might sell one. Your gain is $100, the same as the previous example.

    However, all else being equal, it costs less to receive, display, and sell one item than it does to sell 100 items. So the profit is higher with the markup of $100. Looking at it from a business standpoint, which makes more sense?

    And yes, I realize that there are other benefits from higher sales volumes, such as exposure, more customers in the store who might buy other things, and so on. Those things are figured in as well in real life. My example is exaggerated, but it demonstrates the theory behind pricing.
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    10-21-2019 01:59 PM
  11. Drael646464's Avatar
    If you can buy a cheaper drive of the same physical size - why not just do that instead?
    nate0 and ochhanz like this.
    10-26-2019 11:08 PM
  12. nate0's Avatar
    Many items (tech, components, items solely manufactured over seas..) are staying choicly priced and may never go down for a while.. Or ever again for all we know. Tarrif wars...
    10-29-2019 05:29 PM
  13. bulls96's Avatar
    Just a thought..

    This tablet has 4G modem and that usually means an extra $200-300 for other devices right (iPad etc)

    So a little more justified on the price?
    11-05-2019 06:34 PM
  14. justjun555's Avatar
    I think it is rightly priced. just because it runs Windows on arm people wants it to be cheap. but compared to ipad pro & surface pro 7 it is priced right imo.

    Ipad pro 12.9 current generation priced at 999$ for 64gb of storage & without lte. With lte it's at 1149$.

    Surface pro 7 with 8gb ram & 128 gb ssd cost 899$.
    Last edited by justjun555; 11-05-2019 at 10:33 PM.
    ochhanz likes this.
    11-05-2019 10:16 PM
  15. ochhanz's Avatar
    If you can buy a cheaper drive of the same physical size - why not just do that instead?
    , this, there will surely be some compatible drives on the market now or after a few months. Actually the thing that bothers me more is the lack of a microSd card, that would have been great for a 2nd disk and for photographers of course (I mean this thing is made for roadwarriors right?; why not include that microSd port too?).
    11-06-2019 03:38 AM
  16. JaimitoFrog's Avatar
    Just wait for a price drop.
    11-10-2019 10:08 AM
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