1. bulls96's Avatar
    Thinking of replacing my Go with this.

    What do u guys think?

    Pros and cons of Intel vs ARM?

    I just need it to run my Citrix app for work, which I believe should be a non-issue.
    10-03-2019 10:26 AM
  2. Andyking1in's Avatar
    If you are planning to replace surface pro X with Surface Go and you want me to give you one line answer then My answer is "go for it". If Money is not the constraint then you will not be disappointed with this beautiful Device.

    Pros
    Powerful new SQ1 processor
    Almost bezel-less
    Long battery life
    Fast charging

    Cons
    Bit expensive
    No headphone jack

    As far as the ARM processor is concerned it is more advanced and power-efficient. Intel and ARM both are working hard to bring the best technology to the users but right now ARM is the clear winner. Surface Pro X has the best Specs :

    CPU: Microsoft SQ1
    RAM: 8GB or 16GB
    Display: 13 inches (2880 x 1920)
    Storage: 128GB, 256GB or 512GB
    Ports: USB-C (2), 1 SurfaceConnect
    Battery life: 13 hours (rated)
    Wireless: 802.11ac Wi-Fi 5, LTE Advanced
    Dimensions: 11.3 in x 8.2 in x 0.28 inches
    Weight: 1.68 lbs

    I hope this information will help you.
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    10-03-2019 02:26 PM
  3. justjun555's Avatar
    only con of arm is some of x86 programs may not work well with it considering emulation process .
    it all depends on your use case. list out what programs you must need to use everyday & find out how well they work on Windows on arm platform ?

    overall surface pro x is way more superior (and expensive ) product than surface go.
    10-03-2019 10:16 PM
  4. HeyCori's Avatar
    We use Citrix at work as well. It doesn't affect my department but I have some experience with it. Unfortunately, I can't confirm if it works on ARM. I know Raiser's Edge recently switched over to Azure, so maybe there's a chance it functions without jumping through hoops, but it's hard to say without actually using it. Additionally, I can post the announcement email for when they upgraded us to Azure:

    "As part of this enhancement, we’re leveraging our preferred cloud service provider Microsoft Azure to ensure your solution benefits from industry-leading infrastructure now, and into the future. Blackbaud Raiser’s Edge NXT is taking advantage of Microsoft’s state-of-the-art security and infrastructure. In addition, with this relocation, you’ll use a single sign on to get all users to the Blackbaud Raiser’s Edge NXT WebView through a single URL (no more dual login to Citrix!)."
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    10-03-2019 10:32 PM
  5. bulls96's Avatar
    I have an old surface rt at home might give citrix a try.
    10-04-2019 05:27 AM
  6. Razius's Avatar
    I have an old surface rt at home might give citrix a try.
    From what I remember on my old Surface RT was there was a Citrix app that worked. However, I don't know if that is still available.
    10-16-2019 10:10 AM
  7. excalibur1814's Avatar
    Until you read reviews, that are not from Engadget or the Verge, ignore all information above. A good, solid, performance review should answer your question.
    10-23-2019 08:13 AM
  8. bulls96's Avatar
    Until you read reviews, that are not from Engadget or the Verge, ignore all information above. A good, solid, performance review should answer your question.
    I am eagerly awaiting those for sure. I have a feeling performance would actually be i5-like, just not as strong battery life as other ARM pcs.

    Actually curious how photosshop performs. I don't actually have that on my Go but would certainly like it if it can quick photo edits when I travel. I have my Surface Book for serious work.
    10-23-2019 08:55 AM
  9. Cruncher04's Avatar
    I am eagerly awaiting those for sure. I have a feeling performance would actually be i5-like, just not as strong battery life as other ARM pcs.
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    Ther performance surely is very much i5-like if you are running native apps. For emulated apps the performance typically is 1/2 native.
    Problem with reviews is, that they usually do not bother finding native benchmarks.
    10-24-2019 12:39 PM
  10. ochhanz's Avatar
    I am eagerly awaiting those for sure. I have a feeling performance would actually be i5-like, just not as strong battery life as other ARM pcs.

    Actually curious how photosshop performs. I don't actually have that on my Go but would certainly like it if it can quick photo edits when I travel. I have my Surface Book for serious work.
    , didn't they show some artists using Photoshop or some other Adobe drawing program on the SP X during the launch event? My gut feeling is that the X will be great for most artists. At tabletpcreview forum some people tested it and really liked the pen. Just to be safe though, wait for reviews (I think Windows Central is pretty good with reviews for these kind of devices concerning use cases and Notebookcheck is great for in depth hardware reviews).
    10-24-2019 03:12 PM
  11. Drael646464's Avatar
    The claim for emulation is 60-70% once you've compiled it (ie run it a few times). That should but this in an eight core 1.8-2.1ghz territory for emulated apps. Which to be honest should be good enough for some light gaming, with the GPU, although sadly it doesn't support OGL.

    I think based on the spec, it should be more powerful than the surface go, even emulating (after a few runs). Even if it was half 1.5ghz on eight cores isn't bad (most intel chips run less), but that will also depend how optimized the apps are for more than four cores. Honestly think this will be the first ARM device that passes the performance threshold for emulation into usable. Wouldn't want to use it for huge desktop applications, or heavy music composition (unless arm compiled), but should be a darn site better, and a good replacement for the go.

    We'll see reviews soon enough though. Might as well wait for em.
    10-25-2019 10:27 AM
  12. Cruncher04's Avatar
    The claim for emulation is 60-70% once you've compiled it (ie run it a few times). That should but this in an eight core 1.8-2.1ghz territory for emulated apps. Which to be honest should be good enough for some light gaming, with the GPU, although sadly it doesn't support OGL.´
    OpenGL ES apps should run via Googles ANGLE library. However this is mostly useful when porting from Android though.

    I think based on the spec, it should be more powerful than the surface go, even emulating (after a few runs). Even if it was half 1.5ghz on eight cores isn't bad (most intel chips run less), but that will also depend how optimized the apps are for more than four cores. Honestly think this will be the first ARM device that passes the performance threshold for emulation into usable. Wouldn't want to use it for huge desktop applications, or heavy music composition (unless arm compiled), but should be a darn site better, and a good replacement for the go.

    We'll see reviews soon enough though. Might as well wait for em.
    Agreed - in particular since the Surface Go is just a 2 core machine. Surface Pro X is 4 big + 4 little cores - and they can run at the same time if the application supports 8 threads.
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    10-25-2019 11:19 AM
  13. mr_jomo's Avatar
    From what I remember on my old Surface RT was there was a Citrix app that worked. However, I don't know if that is still available.
    The latest Citrix Workspace app is available on the Microsoft store in ARM-version. That's probably a good starting point.
    11-03-2019 10:29 AM
  14. mr_jomo's Avatar
    From what I remember on my old Surface RT was there was a Citrix app that worked. However, I don't know if that is still available.
    The latest Citrix Workspace app is available on the Microsoft store in ARM-version. That's probably a good starting point.
    11-03-2019 10:29 AM
  15. bulls96's Avatar
    Got my X. No problems with my Citrix and work apps
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    11-10-2019 08:36 PM
  16. HeyCori's Avatar
    Awesome!
    11-11-2019 06:09 AM
  17. bulls96's Avatar
    So far it's a worthwhile upgrade from the Go.

    It is much faster than my Go.

    Runs my apps faster.

    It is expectedly heavier. But makes up for it with that huge beautiful screen.

    And battery life is waaaay better than my Go. When I am charting with my Go, I have to charge it by after lunch. With the Pro X, it is at 30% at the end of my day
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    11-13-2019 08:00 PM

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