10-28-2012 07:25 PM
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  1. the_thunderbird's Avatar
    BGR Review

    " But even as it stands today, the Surface provides a terrific experience right out of the box and it will only get better over time."
    Last edited by the_thunderbird; 10-23-2012 at 08:47 PM.
    10-23-2012 08:40 PM
  2. joeynox's Avatar
    The verge review complained that the kick stand can't be used on your lap .

    The platform has few apps

    Complained about not being able to use legacy apps

    These aren't things that should hurt the review. Every review I've read complained about the legacy applications . It's like people are forgetting the RT is not windows 8 its IOS
    10-23-2012 09:10 PM
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    Gizmodo

    This is a horrible review... He talks about Windows RT like it should launch as a fully evolved echosystem. While there are some really weird quirks about this system when it comes to file management and Office running in desktop mode (I don't mind because it allows for good multitasking) he treats the lack of a populated app store and being incompatible with x86 software as if it's an unexcusable failure for a 1st generation Operating System. This guy is deffinately someone who I would never trust for reviews.
    10-23-2012 09:14 PM
  4. the_thunderbird's Avatar
    All Things D

    "Microsoft’s Surface is a tablet with some pluses: the major Office apps and nice, optional keyboards. If you can live with its tiny number of third-party apps, and somewhat disappointing battery life, it may give you the productivity some miss in other tablets."
    10-23-2012 09:16 PM
  5. jmerrey's Avatar
    One consistent thing that is coming from these reviews, besides the lack of apps which we already knew, is performance issues. I really hope MS cleans these up quickly.

    I will say, I really wish MS could have knocked this out of the park. As it stands, they obviously didn't.
    10-23-2012 09:20 PM
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    10-23-2012 09:24 PM
  7. joeynox's Avatar
    I love the windows 8 UI and want a good tablet and an RT with IPad performance wasn't asking too much but it looks like Microsoft dropped the ball. There's no excuse for the surface to feel sliggish or IE loading we pages up 9 seconds longer than safari on the ipad3.
    10-23-2012 09:24 PM
  8. Grimlock's Avatar
    I'm surprised none of you linked the Anandtech review- best review I've come across

    AnandTech - Microsoft Surface Review

    "The Windows RT experience, in many senses, is clearly ahead of what many competitors offer in the tablet space today. Multitasking, task switching and the ability to have multiple applications active on the screen at once are all big advantages that Microsoft enjoys. For productivity workloads, Surface is without equal in the tablet space."
    10-23-2012 09:38 PM
  9. bobsentell's Avatar
    While I'm holding out for the , these reviews are on par with what I expected. Engadget, I believe, made the best point when they said that app developers would be stupid to ignore Windows 8 RT. Whatever you think about Surface itself, Windows 8 RT has the potential to outshine the iPad in terms of marketshare.

    While iPad may do better than any one W8 tablet, as a whole Windows 8 RT will grow fast. So the app issue will fix itself.

    As for the battery, I find it interesting how one reviewer says "battery sucks" while another will say "battery about as good as iPad".

    As for Gizmodo, they are the literal definition of Apple fanboys. I'd have been worried if they did like it.
    10-23-2012 09:39 PM
  10. the_thunderbird's Avatar
    It sounds like there were some fairly substantial bug fixes during the review period from Microsoft. While perhaps a bit unfortunate from a potential-consumer perspective reading reviews, it is nice to know there is immediate action to correct issues with the device. Given most of it seems to lie with software it does not seem like a huge issue to me. Even BB sorted out the PlayBook, at least to an extent. All Things D recognized that all but one issue was fixed within this week.
    10-23-2012 09:42 PM
  11. smoledman's Avatar
    The verge review complained that the kick stand can't be used on your lap .

    The platform has few apps

    Complained about not being able to use legacy apps

    These aren't things that should hurt the review. Every review I've read complained about the legacy applications . It's like people are forgetting the RT is not windows 8 its IOS
    #1 - Agreed - the form factor is awkward and nigh unusable in either orientation. I can't believe Microsoft failed to perform ergonomic studies. There is a certain width that you hold your arms apart that crosses a threshold into causing fatigue and it seems this device crosses that boundary. I bet everyone in the Surface group though this thing looked really cool and did ZERO ergonomic studies. Yes the kickstand is useless except for desk usage.

    #2 - The average consumer will see "Windows" and be confused as to why it has a Desktop but it can't install VLC. Another branding FAIL. Should have called it Zune RT or something.

    Anyways I think Windows RT is an innovative OS, but the form factor kills it.
    10-23-2012 09:43 PM
  12. smoledman's Avatar
    Gizmodo

    This is a horrible review... He talks about Windows RT like it should launch as a fully evolved echosystem. While there are some really weird quirks about this system when it comes to file management and Office running in desktop mode (I don't mind because it allows for good multitasking) he treats the lack of a populated app store and being incompatible with x86 software as if it's an unexcusable failure for a 1st generation Operating System. This guy is deffinately someone who I would never trust for reviews.
    #1 - ever hear of a spellcheck? You made 3 spelling errors.
    #2 - Why should all reviews be done my MS sycophants? I want to hear the opinions of Apple fans. Steve Jobs would take the criticism in stride and seek to improve the Surface, not get all defensive and insist everything is fine. But Steve Jobs is dead and he never would helm Microsoft. Steve Ballmer is not Jobs. His RDF is 100x bigger than Jobs' ever was.
    10-23-2012 09:46 PM
  13. bobsentell's Avatar
    I'm surprised none of you linked the Anandtech review- best review I've come across

    AnandTech - Microsoft Surface Review
    This sentence in this review is what I have been screaming ever since someone brought up the issue with backwards compatibility.

    The lack of backwards compatibility is a bit of a concern, but if youre cross shopping between Surface and an iOS/Android tablet youre not going to get backwards compatibility anyway making it a non-issue.
    Thank God someone finally printed it.
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    10-23-2012 09:51 PM
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    10-23-2012 10:04 PM
  15. doomtuba's Avatar
    I always go to Anand for reviews. They are always unbiased and go really in depth. I trust them the most.

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    10-23-2012 10:13 PM
  16. jdevenberg's Avatar
    I think the only bad review was gizmodo. Even Cnet's 3.5 stars is considered "Very Good" in their rating system. Everyone else saying something to the effect of if you need a tablet good for productivity the Surface is for you, or if you want something different than iPad or Android, Surface (and Windows RT in general) is the next best option.
    10-23-2012 10:30 PM
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    10-23-2012 10:33 PM
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    10-23-2012 10:49 PM
  19. oblivman's Avatar
    #1 - Agreed - the form factor is awkward and nigh unusable in either orientation. I can't believe Microsoft failed to perform ergonomic studies. There is a certain width that you hold your arms apart that crosses a threshold into causing fatigue and it seems this device crosses that boundary. I bet everyone in the Surface group though this thing looked really cool and did ZERO ergonomic studies. Yes the kickstand is useless except for desk usage.

    #2 - The average consumer will see "Windows" and be confused as to why it has a Desktop but it can't install VLC. Another branding FAIL. Should have called it Zune RT or something.

    Anyways I think Windows RT is an innovative OS, but the form factor kills it.
    How many times are you going to claim they did no ergonomic studies? Also, how is the form factor unusable? I have owned 2 different 10" android tablets (virtually the same form factor) and they are fine. Finally...what were you expecting with the stand? Its pretty much been known since day one it wasn't meant for your lap.

    That said, I will be going with one of the x86 alternatives because I would like to ditch my current laptop at the same time.
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    10-23-2012 10:53 PM
  20. lemonsteveo's Avatar
    Not too concerned about the lack of apps. The built in apps fills 90% of my needs.
    Just worried about the performance issue someone mentioned, which review was this?
    Hmm, I wonder how the Acer W510 stacks up to the Surface RT at the same price.
    10-23-2012 11:08 PM
  21. smoledman's Avatar
    How many times are you going to claim they did no ergonomic studies? Also, how is the form factor unusable? I have owned 2 different 10" android tablets (virtually the same form factor) and they are fine. Finally...what were you expecting with the stand? Its pretty much been known since day one it wasn't meant for your lap.

    That said, I will be going with one of the x86 alternatives because I would like to ditch my current laptop at the same time.
    Because I know Apple did extensive ergonomic studies and that's why they adopted the 4:3 form factor. I know from my own iPad usage that it's "just right" and wider/taller would be epic FAIL.
    10-23-2012 11:25 PM
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    10-23-2012 11:39 PM
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    Mashable

    "There’s no doubt that Surface will appeal most to Windows users. In fact this is the tablet for Windows fans. It won’t win over Apple iPad owners, but for all those who hate Apple, find Android confusing and underwhelming, and are ready to enter the world of touch-screen computing this is the alternative you’ve been waiting for."
    10-23-2012 11:43 PM
  24. berty6294's Avatar
    Because I know Apple did extensive ergonomic studies and that's why they adopted the 4:3 form factor. I know from my own iPad usage that it's "just right" and wider/taller would be epic FAIL.


    GO HOME, your comments are pointless and unhelpful! We know you like your iPad, but you have nothing constructive to say! If you want to gloat about your iPad, may I please direct you here!
    10-24-2012 12:00 AM
  25. Blackwood504's Avatar
    Because I know Apple did extensive ergonomic studies and that's why they adopted the 4:3 form factor. I know from my own iPad usage that it's "just right" and wider/taller would be epic FAIL.
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think you are wrong. I also have an ipad (well my 2 year old son does now) it works fine but holding a 16:9 tablet is no difference...I know because I have held a surface while using it for a period of time...no difference from my experience.
    10-24-2012 12:02 AM
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