11-30-2013 05:27 PM
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  1. GiftedSoul's Avatar
    So I'm new to the Microsoft Community (just moved from Nexus 4 to Lumia 920 and LOVE IT!!). I was looking around in my local Best Buy store and came across the Surface line of Tablets offered by Microsoft; to be honest I used to scoff at the idea of a pure Windows tablet as it wasn't as user friendly or down right appealing as the iPad. Windows Phone and Windows 8 completely changed my idea of an all Windows tablet and I'm looking to adopt more into the ecosystem. This brings me to my question (as you saw in the thread title). Best Buy and Microsoft as you may well know plan to offer the Surface RT for $199 without the Cover, and I wanted to know if it was worth purchasing (I know the Surface 2 is out, but for $499, it's just out of the question). I'm not really concerned about specs too much as long as it can open and close apps without too much of an issue; Apps aren't that big of a deal for me as I only use Facebook, Twitter, AllRecipes, Nook or Kindle, check some tech news via The Verge, TechnoBuffalo and Cnet, and go to Amazon and JackThreads every now and then. I'm coming from an iPad 2 and I'm not particularly excited about getting another "thinner, lighter, hey guys it Twitter refreshes 2 seconds faster woo hoo" tablet that really hasn't changed much outside of iOS look and feel. So just to give a basic set of questions to make my point, how does the Surface RT (outside of App Selection) compare to the iPad 2 and is it worth making the switch on Black Friday for a $199 pricetag? Thanks in Advance!
    11-27-2013 11:41 AM
  2. wpoblation's Avatar
    Well, the big pluses in the Surface RTs corner are: lots of ports (full USB, microSD, HD video), a browser that supports Flash, MS Office being included, better multi-tasking and multi-user support. But you don't seem to be looking at those either as pluses for your needs.
    Your stated needs seem to be just for browsing a couple of websites, using a couple of apps, the tablet not being very laggy and a 'fresher' or perhaps different UI than that of iOS. Surface RT or any other mainstream Android tablet should work for you. You've had a Nexus and seem to like the Metro UI, so you already have an idea of the UIs of both. Android lets you load different browsers, if you find IE too limiting. I say 'mainstream' Android tablet as an alternative because there is a flood of very cheap Android tablets that are, lets say underwhelming.
    11-27-2013 12:34 PM
  3. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Ok, you said "outside app selection" comparing the RT to the iPad 2... the RT at $199 is an absolute steal! App selection aside, it blows my iPad 4 away. In some respects it is actually BETTER than the Surface 2. If the reports of problems on this forum is indicative of overall build quality, the RT is a bit better.

    I highly recommend buying the Type Cover 2 if you want to do any extensive typing on it. The keyboard is absolutely amazing. A insanely thin cover/keyboard with actual keys. Terrific! I'd also recommend a bluetooth mouse (the trackpad on all of the covers is pretty bad). For stylus, a high recommendation for the Adonit Jot ($15 @ Walmart.com)

    Check out this video (often posted here) and tell ME that it isn't worth $199 (regardless of what tablet one currently owns):
    11-27-2013 06:01 PM
  4. John20212's Avatar
    @WillysJeepMan
    Thanks's for linking the great video. After watching it I have no idea why so many tech sites bash the Surface RT, at $199 you just can't get a better tablet, period.
    Last edited by John20212; 11-28-2013 at 12:57 AM. Reason: typo
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    11-27-2013 10:38 PM
  5. erzhik's Avatar
    Heads up. Micro Center will be selling Surface RT with keyboard for $179. Better deal if you have a MC near you. First 100 people in line will get it.
    11-27-2013 10:42 PM
  6. Bo's Avatar
    If you have a Costco account, they have the venue 8 pro for 229.99 plus 9.99 shipping and tax. I just ordered two.
    11-27-2013 10:46 PM
  7. pseudoware's Avatar
    I just got an RT at eBay's black Friday sale for $169.99. Yeah, it's a mfg refurb & no touch cover keyboard, but it has a one year warranty and it keeps my ash away from the mad crush at the stores. I'd be happy to pay a few bucks more for that alone, but for this, I didn't have to.

    http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...2F181265693099

    Feel bad for the people who unknowingly paid $279.99 very recently from the same place.

    Edit: wow, according to item description, they sold ~800 units in the 20 minutes since I bought mine.
    Old_Cus and DavidinCT like this.
    11-27-2013 11:21 PM
  8. Arenzael's Avatar
    I tried to get one from Microsoft's Early Special, but after a hour of their online store being down, I just got that one from eBay. They're up to 2150 sold now!!
    I would have preferred a new one from MS, but hopefully this one will be in good condition, and saves $30 + Tax (another $20 for me)

    Thanks for the Link! And the youtube video showing some of the cool stuff it can do.
    pseudoware likes this.
    11-27-2013 11:58 PM
  9. Aldrin Divera's Avatar
    Just bought 2 surface rt from Microsoft store for $199 each and a type cover2..can wait for it to arrive..
    11-28-2013 08:37 AM
  10. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    I tried to get one from Microsoft's Early Special, but after a hour of their online store being down, I just got that one from eBay. They're up to 2150 sold now!!
    I would have preferred a new one from MS, but hopefully this one will be in good condition, and saves $30 + Tax (another $20 for me)

    Thanks for the Link! And the youtube video showing some of the cool stuff it can do.
    I bought a manufacturer refurbed unit off of ebay from the same seller 2 months ago. It was absolutely immaculate and indistinguishable from "new". Many, many others have said the same thing.

    Over 5500 sold as I type. If you think this is crazy, wait for the coming days. The RT is going to be the "sleeper" must-have gadget this holiday season.
    Old_Cus and Arenzael like this.
    11-28-2013 08:41 AM
  11. dgr_874's Avatar
    Well, I pulled the trigger on this too. I finally will complete my whole Microsoft ecosystem. Now I have to decided between all my Apple stuff and Microsoft stuff. Its going to be a fun year.
    11-28-2013 09:55 AM
  12. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Well, I pulled the trigger on this too. I finally will complete my whole Microsoft ecosystem. Now I have to decided between all my Apple stuff and Microsoft stuff. Its going to be a fun year.
    Ha! I've been in the Apple camp for the last 4+ years, but I haven't been pleased with where they're going, so I started looking around at going back to Windows/Microsoft... it started with my Zune HD 8 months ago, and then the RT a few months ago. Yesterday I picked up a Lumia 520 for $66 (no contract) for use with my Straight Talk (AT&T mvno) micro SIM that had been in my iPhone 4 for the last 1.5 years. Neat little phone and amazing for the price. Love no-contract GSM service!
    11-28-2013 10:12 AM
  13. dgr_874's Avatar
    About the same story here. I'm mostly just so tired of paying so much money for not a whole lot more functionality. Apple stuff is nice but just so freaking expensive when other gadgets do almost everything (and sometimes more) they do for so much less.
    11-28-2013 10:21 AM
  14. Old_Cus's Avatar
    I was going to suggest the manufacturers refurbish RT on EBay also but I see I've been beaten to it. I actually canceled an earlier order from Best Buy. How the hell can you beat an window RT tablet for $169.99 to go with my windows 8.1 laptop and 1520 I just picked up?
    11-28-2013 10:25 AM
  15. pseudoware's Avatar
    I bought a manufacturer refurbed unit off of ebay from the same seller 2 months ago. It was absolutely immaculate and indistinguishable from "new". Many, many others have said the same thing.
    This is great to hear. I'm wondering if these units ship with 8.1.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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    11-28-2013 10:40 AM
  16. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    This is great to hear. I'm wondering if these units ship with 8.1.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    Most likely will ship with 8.0. Be prepared for 8-12 hours of updates.... took 6 hours to install over 72 updates.
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    11-28-2013 10:43 AM
  17. SnuggleTheBear's Avatar
    I ended up buying the refurbished off of eBay also, but this will be my first tablet. Now I know I want a keyboard, but not sure to either go the cheap route with a Touch Cover or go ahead and buy a Type Cover 2. I won't do extensive typing, but I would imagine I would rather type on some type of keyboard than the screen. Any thoughts?
    11-28-2013 11:26 AM
  18. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Aww man, no uk shipping on the ebay sale :(.. you guys always get the good the stuff lol... first gen surface still being sold for 280 here...
    11-28-2013 12:05 PM
  19. kwill's Avatar
    I've only used the touch covers on both Surfaces. Not because they are cheaper, but I'm just like you. Don't type term papers and such from it. Just need it every now and then and it's a great cover! Find a good, almost new one on eBay or something.
    11-28-2013 12:06 PM
  20. Citizen X's Avatar
    I bought a manufacturer refurbed unit off of ebay from the same seller 2 months ago. It was absolutely immaculate and indistinguishable from "new". Many, many others have said the same thing.

    Over 5500 sold as I type. If you think this is crazy, wait for the coming days. The RT is going to be the "sleeper" must-have gadget this holiday season.
    Given how many extra units Microsoft has lying around maybe they are just selling new units as refurbished to save face.
    11-28-2013 02:06 PM
  21. distilledoreo's Avatar
    I just bought one for $200 on the Microsoft Store website. If only the Type Cover 2 was on sale, though. I don't really think I should pay more than half of what I paid for the tablet on a keyboard...
    11-28-2013 03:57 PM
  22. Guytronic's Avatar
    I think I'm going with the E-Bay refurbo (if approved by the wife)

    Since my ASUS TF700T flipped me off I've been wanting another tab.
    I just didn't want it to be another Andread tablet.
    From what I've seen of Windows tabs I feel they are ages ahead of anything else.
    11-28-2013 05:13 PM
  23. dgr_874's Avatar
    Been reading all morning and i'm trying to decide if the Dell Venue 8 Pro is worth the extra money. Anyone use both or can clue me in on how they compare in real life?

    Edit: Nevermind, I did enough research to answer my questions. I'm a pretty lightweight user (mostly web browsing), so ill be sticking with the Surface RT.

    Thanks again pseudoware for the link! I would have never found it otherwise!
    Last edited by dgr_874; 11-29-2013 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Updated Status
    11-28-2013 05:38 PM
  24. TachyonicCargo's Avatar
    Just wanted to add to the Surface RT sale madness, but Walmart has the 64GB version on sale for $248 [unadvertised]. This is a super sweet deal, because last check, Windows 8 eats 14GB, almost half of Surface RT's 32GB of onboard storage, only leaving 18GB of actual storage on the standard Surface RT.

    Walmart has the Surface RT 32GB with Touch Cover for $249.99

    Staples has the Surface RT 32GB with Touch Cover for $249.99

    Staples has the Surface Pro 64GB for $549.00
    11-28-2013 06:00 PM
  25. nottechsmart's Avatar
    Just wanted to add to the Surface RT sale madness, but Walmart has the 64GB version on sale for $248 [unadvertised]. This is a super sweet deal, because last check, Windows 8 eats 14GB, almost half of Surface RT's 32GB of onboard storage, only leaving 18GB of actual storage on the standard Surface RT.

    Walmart has the Surface RT 32GB with Touch Cover for $249.99

    Staples has the Surface RT 32GB with Touch Cover for $249.99

    Staples has the Surface Pro 64GB for $549.00

    Staples has had the Surface Pro 64gb for $549 for the past week or so. I've gone to a couple stores and checked online daily and have yet to see it in stock. I've had less then stellar experiences with Staples and this is just another reason not to spend my money there. $549 seems it'd be a smoking deal.
    11-28-2013 06:22 PM
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