02-27-2014 12:50 AM
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  1. nakialj's Avatar
    Cant afford the Surface 2 and i cant afford the Surface Pro 2. Is the Surface RT any good?

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    02-02-2014 11:00 PM
  2. Jack Janik's Avatar
    I own one, and I use it hours each day. It's a little slow, but with realistic expectations I think you should go for it.
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    02-02-2014 11:08 PM
  3. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    What are you planning to use your tablet for? Do you already have a desktop or laptop PC? Do you need to run any legacy x86 programs?
    02-02-2014 11:08 PM
  4. dr3wster's Avatar
    Depends what you want to use the device for.. If you're happy with just using office and internet explorer then you will be happy.. Just remember that the metro apps (windows store) selection is very limited and u can't run traditional x86 desktop apps or even a third party Web browser (at this point of time). Things will improve on the app front over time. If u are still ok with RT limitations, I would save for the surface 2 if I were u.. I have rt and the surface 2 and performance differences are huuuuge. The other option is u can get the Surface Pro 1 at a massive discount right now.

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    02-02-2014 11:10 PM
  5. Keith Petrovich's Avatar
    Absolutely love it. My computer does what a surface pro needs to do, and the RT does what a tablet needs to do, plus a tad bit more. Get it, I love mine.
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    02-02-2014 11:22 PM
  6. mase123987's Avatar
    Save for Surface 2 or get a different full Windows tablet. Surface RT was/is capable of a lot, but it simply wasn't blessed with much processing power. Speed is not it's strong point.
    02-02-2014 11:51 PM
  7. James8561's Avatar
    no. do not buy any ARM windows tablet they are deadend junks.
    save up for a x86 tablet like the Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB ($299) or save even more for the Surface Pro 2 128 GB.
    02-02-2014 11:54 PM
  8. T Moore's Avatar
    The Surface RT is not dead-end. For me I wouldn't want a tablet with screen less than 10 inches and a keyboard to use when I needed it. The next versions are in the works at MS.
    I like my 32GB RT. Just got it last Wed from ebay. The seller sold about 2000 of them for $179, refurbished, all gone now. They still have the 64GB for $249.
    64GB Microsoft Surface RT Tablet | eBay
    From my Surface RT
    02-03-2014 12:29 AM
  9. taymur's Avatar
    To best explain the Surface RT need you should ask your self this:

    Does a iPad* with Microsoft Office solves your problems?

    Now I know many will argue that the Surface RT doesn't have as much apps, but I can tell you that the browser on the Surface RT is way more capable.

    *The use of an iPad is to simply demonstrate the inability to run legacy apps.

    And, if I were you, I will save some cash, and get the Surface 2 why buy something released in 2012.
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    02-03-2014 12:35 AM
  10. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    First off I have no idea why James8561 has that feeling for RT, however each to their own.

    I very much enjoy my Surface RT very much !!! I got mine after the Surface RT 2 came out, so the price was in my range. I have used it to replace an older Samsung N150 Netbook and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (2012 model).

    The Surface RT 1st Gen is not the fastest, latest, newest, greatest, however I knew that when I bought it. It has surprised me as to what it can do.

    I use it as a laptop replacement, because it has better battery life then Samsung, and can do everything the netbook did for me.

    Just a small list of what my Surface RT has attached sitting on my desk.

    2 x 4 Port USB Hubs, in a chain, so I have a total of 7 USB ports ( A D-Link Powered Hub and a Staples non powered Hub ), both cost less then $35 together
    2.4 Ghz Wireless Keyboard and Mouse compact combo ( were from my Acer Revo 3610 bedroom computer), no cost but added value to me for ease of use of Surface.
    iHome Bluetooth Pill Speakers, from Walmart on sale less then $15 ( Wonderful sound for the price, at full volume the bass shakes the pill around)
    Xbox 360 Control for game play.....in Asphalt 7 &8 vibration works well.
    Prints to and Scans from a Cannon MG 5520 WiFi Printer/Scanner
    Syncs with my Nokia Lumia 1020, also charges via the powered hub.
    Can sync with my Cannon A2600 digital point and shoot, and my Sony Handycam for HD video ( as well as charge it).

    AT some point, and this is my wish....my LG DVD RW will be fully supported in RT, as I can only read images from CD and DVD, as well as play only some of my DVD collection on my Surface, but not via any app. Maybe we will get DVD play support soon.


    Now not to dump on any other device or tablet.....if you were to grab a Surface RT that was on ebay as a Refurbished for around $169 - $180, or even from the Microsoft Store for $299 ( both have full year coverage).
    I would say you have a heck of a Tablet !!!!!!!!!!!

    The Surface RT is what I kept over a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, as I didn't take to it and sold it.
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    02-03-2014 01:01 AM
  11. nakialj's Avatar
    I know that the Surface RT released in 2012 i havent had a surface before so i just wanted to ask about the device. I do own a Dell venue 8 pro the problem i have with the tablet is it gets too hot while surf the web and do important stuff on it.

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    02-03-2014 01:03 AM
  12. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    I know that the Surface RT released in 2012 i havent had a surface before so i just wanted to ask about the device. I do own a Dell venue 8 pro the problem i have with the tablet is it gets too hot while surf the web and do important stuff on it.

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    Well as long as you understand that the Surface RT will not run x86 Apps, then you could use an RT for basic use. Keep the Dell for x86 Support items and to warm your hands on cold winter nights. :)
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    02-03-2014 01:12 AM
  13. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Once you've made the decision that Windows RT can accommodate your needs, then it depends upon your budget and if you can get a good price on the Surface RT. If you can wait a while (3-4 months) you may be able to find an RT for as low as $125 though any price under $200 is good. During that time it is possible that the Surface 3 (3rd gen RT) may be announced.

    In my opinion, and it is simply that, my opinion, the Surface 2 was a rushed "placeholder" to address some of the shortcomings of the 1st gen. I believe that the Surface 3 will be the model that brings it all together. My recommendation is a cheap RT or wait for the Surface 3.
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    02-03-2014 09:46 AM
  14. taymur's Avatar
    Once you've made the decision that Windows RT can accommodate your needs, then it depends upon your budget and if you can get a good price on the Surface RT. If you can wait a while (3-4 months) you may be able to find an RT for as low as $125 though any price under $200 is good. During that time it is possible that the Surface 3 (3rd gen RT) may be announced.

    In my opinion, and it is simply that, my opinion, the Surface 2 was a rushed "placeholder" to address some of the shortcomings of the 1st gen. I believe that the Surface 3 will be the model that brings it all together. My recommendation is a cheap RT or wait for the Surface 3.
    I have to disagree, I think Microsoft is loosing money on the surface 2 in order to make it more popular, the huge amount of specs thrown in there doesn't match the price tag.

    And whenever you see a device that has a price tag lower than the hardware's cost, get it. An example of this strategy, the first model of every PlayStation generation.
    02-04-2014 12:09 AM
  15. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    I think once the Surface 3 is launched and hits the stores, the price on a 1st gen will bottom out, and the Surface 2 on Refurb will become very interesting!!!!

    If they Launch a Mini it could also split the Pro market, and take the attention away from a 3......which could also mean after 6 months you may see a big price cut on the 3 RT.

    If your looking to save a few bucks on new tech, I would wait and see. However I do understand the desire to run launch day and grab the newest, latest, greatest.

    It's just the Scottish side of me will be looking hard at the Surface 2 when 3 starts to roll.
    02-04-2014 10:03 AM
  16. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    I have to disagree, I think Microsoft is loosing money on the surface 2 in order to make it more popular, the huge amount of specs thrown in there doesn't match the price tag.

    And whenever you see a device that has a price tag lower than the hardware's cost, get it. An example of this strategy, the first model of every PlayStation generation.
    Microsoft is not losing money on the Surface 2. It is only slightly less than the original RT and the specs wouldn't drive the cost up beyond a point where a profit could be made. It is selling at their targeted price point. Microsoft's earnings report shows no further losses with regard to the Surface.

    The Surface 2 is in significantly shorter supply than the RT. If they were trying to sell them to make them more popular, it is an epic fail because they are so scarce.
    02-04-2014 03:36 PM
  17. TrueMetalGeek's Avatar
    I originally held off on getting a Surface RT tablet because of what people like to say about them.
    So I dropped almost $300 on a Lenovo 10" tablet with Android.
    Lenovo is high quality build in general.

    Anyway I was soon frustrated because it's still basically ANDROID which can't honestly multi task webpages, videos playing on web pages etc.
    I'm a guy who listens to some shows on youtube and I like to go to other browser tabs and apps while still listening.
    But you can not with Android unless you install a 3rd party app to work around that severe handicap. And then it only works half ***.

    I finally went and bought the 1st generation Surface RT.
    It can bog sometimes if you don't reset after some updates, etc but other than that I love it and it is night and day better than using a tablet with a silly handicapped Android (or Apple mobile) operating system.

    The Internet Explorer opens pretty much any website and any video and I am able to use REMOTE DESKTOP to run my home Windows 7 PC almost as if I am there.
    Even using programs like Photoshop via remote.

    I added shortcuts to the desktop screen so it has the familiar shortcuts to the hard drive and certain folders like pictures and videos and I pinned some programs like the Windows Snipping Tool to the task bar so they are right there.

    Speaking of folders and files, you can DRAG AND DROP multiple files from one folder to another or to a network folder.
    Fat chance doing that on Android. Androids file folder system is very limited in compare and no drag and drop.

    I use my surface every day and at lunchtime at work I plug in Bluetooth headphones and a USB mouse and use it just like a PC multi tasking away with videos playing and doing all sorts of stuff.

    I got one of my daughter's a Nokia 822 and that older phone seems more responsive than my newer Samsung Galaxy S4 in some ways.

    I'd like to get a Nokia 1020 or the likes if they'd come to Verizon.

    Anyway. Long story short. I held off buying the Surface RT for months because of all the jerks who flat out LIE about the Surface RT. Seriously, 99% of the youtube Surface RT reviews are biased and don't dare show you what it CAN do that Android can not.

    Now my 7 yr old daughter has my Lenovo Tablet I spent nearly $300 on.

    I bought my wife a refurbished Surface RT for $250 and my 18 year old daughter got lucky on black Friday when I talked Fry's Electronics into price matching their very last Surface Tablet for $199!
    So for $199 or even $299, the Surface RT tablet is MUCH BETTER than being stuck with a half a$$ Android or way over priced iPad
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    02-13-2014 11:16 PM
  18. dainla's Avatar
    I've completely stopped using my iPad since I got an RT. I just do general stuff. Check out the internet and a little document work.

    I love it.
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    02-14-2014 12:19 AM
  19. nakialj's Avatar
    That's cool.
    02-14-2014 05:45 PM
  20. Cruncher04's Avatar
    I know that the Surface RT released in 2012 i havent had a surface before so i just wanted to ask about the device. I do own a Dell venue 8 pro the problem i have with the tablet is it gets too hot while surf the web and do important stuff on it.
    Since you have a Dell venue 8 pro keep in mind, that the original Surface is much slower than both Surface 2 and the Dell. When you want to have a Surface comparable with Dell performance you would need to get a Surface 2. Just saying...not that you are disappointed with your purchase.
    02-16-2014 07:01 AM
  21. kristalsoldier's Avatar
    There are, I think, two ways in which you can view this. First, consider the fact that the original RT is now a generation old. Consider also that within the next few months MS will make some announcements about their Win 8.1 RT (which, technically, should not affect the original RT) and, perhaps, about their future plans for the Surface line. If MS does continue with the Surface line (under the new CEO) - and I don't see any reason why they would not - then between the Oct-Dec timeframe there will be a Surface 3. This will be - spec-wise - much closer to the Surface 2 than to the original RT. In other words, the original RT - while still a capable device - is about to enter the end of. its run. This also means that it is likely that the price of the original RT in the after-market space may go lower than what it currently is.

    The second perspective involves considering the Surface 2. Clearly, the Surface 2 is better than the original RT in a number of ways - screen, dual-level kickstand, Tegra4 chip are some examples of this. This suggests that the Surface 2 has at least 1 more year of effective and, more importantly, competitive life even if MS introduces a Surface 3 later this year. When considered in this context, it becomes much easier to favourably compare the Surface 2 to any future iteration of the Surface than it is to compare the original RT.

    But, underlying these arguments, there lies the question of money. It is undeniable that one can find the original RT at a heavily discounted price. The trade-off here is between price and performance (when is it ever not???). In other words, it can make sense to buy the original RT - even today - if (1) you want to save money and want something that will perform adequately, but not, brilliantly; and/ or (2) you want to test the Surface (and Win RT) platform because in this case you would be advised to spend the least possible amount of cash considering the possibility that you may not like either the hardware or the platform.

    I think this is where your decision-point lies. Good luck!
    02-17-2014 07:08 AM
  22. hotphil's Avatar
    If MS does continue with the Surface line (under the new CEO) - and I don't see any reason why they would not
    I'd go with a several-hundred million dollar loss being one reason for a new CEO to think hard about the line's future.
    I love my Surface RT, one of the main reasons being the battery life. But with whatever's coming after Haswell, Intel's surely going to be knocking dangerously close to ARM territory on that. I can see RT disappearing or being rebranded as their mobile OS. If they do that and continue on with x86 Surfaces only they'll have a better, more clearly-defined "brand" - choose your flavour of Surface 3 based on SSD and RAM size from consumer through to enterprise, one OS, one device.
    02-17-2014 09:46 PM
  23. Will6371's Avatar
    Well I got an 64gb Surface RT yesterday, new and sealed for 160

    I have used android tablets for ages until late last year when I got a Nokia 1020 which I loved except for the design of it so I gave it to my wife and I got a 925 and to be fair I have never had a more favourite phone. Anyway that got me thinking so I got my wife to get Santa to get me a Nokia 2520 for when I'm at home and I thought that I would use my Nexus 7 2nd generation for out at work and so on. Well the more I used the 2520 the less I liked the Nexus so I sold it as I have had it with android and in particular Google.

    I also picked up a touch pad for it last night for 30 in cyan and both together work great, okay so it is now where as quick as the Nokia or the Nexus for that matter but for work and stuff I am more than happy with it. The battery is fantastic for a 2 year old (almost) and the screen is a surprise to me also, again not in the same league as the 2520 but still great.

    The touchpad is a pleasure to work with and I live the way it engages with the tablet. Much easier to use than the pad on the Nokia.

    Now would I have been better spending more and getting a Surface 2? If I didn't have the Nokia then I think yes but even with having the Nokia I think that it would have been stupid of me to mot get it for the price I paid.

    All in all a very happy owner.
    02-19-2014 11:39 AM
  24. Elvis7's Avatar
    so , would a surface rt 64 gb, be good at 280$ NEW?
    02-24-2014 10:30 AM
  25. Will6371's Avatar
    so , would a surface rt 64 gb, be good at 280$ NEW?
    I would say so, yes.
    02-24-2014 11:16 AM
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