02-22-2014 06:06 PM
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  1. hopmedic's Avatar
    ....Modern/Metro UI is optimized (I'd say over-optimized) for touch screens. It is a waste of screen space on typical notebook and desktop systems. It (Metro/Modern) will not be embraced by F500 corporations because of that.
    I would have to disagree. The reason it will not be embraced by Fortune 500 companies (yet) is because the OS isn't five years old. I've worked for three different Fortune 100 companies. At one of those, I was an IT guy.
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    02-05-2014 01:28 PM
  2. Jazmac's Avatar
    I go in Starbucks from time to time and whip out the Surface 2 and what I've gotten was a mixture of smiles and curiosity. For the most part, I tend to "stay in my lane". That is true with my Surface 2 and my Lumia 920. If anyone that knows ONLY one device elects to get into my lane and dance, they lose. They always lose. However, if I allow for them to judge what's best for me aka, I ride in their lanes, I have a battle on my hands...and they know it.
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    02-05-2014 01:42 PM
  3. borasar's Avatar
    One comment I did manage to hear was " Ugh what's that doing here?"
    any person that says that, regardless whether it's about a surface or an ipad or an galaxy tab deserves a high five.....in the face.....with a chair.....for being a pretentious ****
    02-05-2014 01:48 PM
  4. Jas00555's Avatar
    any person that says that, regardless whether it's about a surface or an ipad or an galaxy tab deserves a high five.....in the face.....with a chair.....for being a pretentious ****
    Or they could, you know... be joking.
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    02-05-2014 01:54 PM
  5. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    I blew my brother in law away when I showed him my surface pro and one note with natural writing to text. He's a big ipad user, iphone, and windows laptops for work (he's a professor and researcher for psychology). He was amazed. He said the Ipad was 'okay' for email but you couldn't really do research work on it. He pretty much fell in love with it.
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    02-05-2014 01:57 PM
  6. borasar's Avatar
    That's a possibility , however the original comment painted a different picture IMO. How often do you joke with people you've never seen before, at a starbucks, about their device, without directly addressing them?
    Or they could, you know... be joking.
    02-05-2014 02:02 PM
  7. sinime's Avatar
    Lol, I did something worse than taking a Surface to a Starbucks... Picked up a docking station for my surface at the windows store. They must have given it to me in the biggest bag they had, and it's not one of those flimsy bags you get at a super market... Anyhow, with bag in hand and window logos clearly visible on the sides, I went to the mac store across the way. Went inside and started looking for those Philips Hue bulbs. Anyhow, I could feel the stares I was getting... And if felt good, in a weird sort of way. ;) Mac people seem to get too uptight over stupid things.
    02-05-2014 02:10 PM
  8. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    Lol, I did something worse than taking a Surface to a Starbucks... Picked up a docking station for my surface at the windows store. They must have given it to me in the biggest bag they had, and it's not one of those flimsy bags you get at a super market... Anyhow, with bag in hand and window logos clearly visible on the sides, I went to the mac store across the way. Went inside and started looking for those Philips Hue bulbs. Anyhow, I could feel the stares I was getting... And if felt good, in a weird sort of way. ;) Mac people seem to get too uptight over stupid things.
    A true Surface dweller :) HA HA
    02-05-2014 02:31 PM
  9. csd_images's Avatar
    Not so much the RT I have the Gen 1 Pro, but I often get strange looks when I do business meetings and start drawing/writing notes from either interested bystanders or clients. The worst instance was a pretentious Mac owner who hostile/curious as to what I was using. Hostile as soon as I mentioned MS Surface, but to cut a story short after I 'explained' why I used it over any other device his final comment was "Why can't Apple do something like this" and walked off.

    The one thing I've noticed, particularly the Pro, is that it sells itself once people actually play with it. With Apple users they tend to be upset when they realise that the Wacom tech is embedded making the device more suitable for artists than the Apple devices some users to the point that declaim they've been betrayed (yes I've had that). On the most part I tend to ignore the stares/curious looks/hostility but it can be disconcerting to clients when we meet in coffee shops/restaurants.
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    02-05-2014 02:34 PM
  10. jojoe42's Avatar
    I bought a surface pro 2 to use at high school (they are making devices near compulsory for schoolwork) and all my teachers and classmates were blown away by how powerful it is. The first question they ask is what device is it, then the see it's running Windows 8.1 and recoil in fear and then they watch me use the OS to take notes AND edit my RAW photos off my 1020 in Lightroom and so far I've convinced half my friends to consider a Pro 2/Surface 2. It's just the form factor of which Windows 8 is currently designed for is tablets really, and people find it annoying that it looks all different to previous versions of Windows
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    02-05-2014 02:37 PM
  11. neo158's Avatar
    I've taken my Surface into Starbucks several times and I've only had one reaction from a customer and it was very positive, she even asked me about it.

    That was in a University town as well!!
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    02-05-2014 02:55 PM
  12. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I would have to disagree. The reason it will not be embraced by Fortune 500 companies (yet) is because the OS isn't five years old. I've worked for three different Fortune 100 companies. At one of those, I was an IT guy.
    Bingo. I work for a F200 company and we just went to Windows 7 last spring. We are still rolling out the new image to almost half the company. Too much is at stake to roll out an immature OS for X more dollars.
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    02-05-2014 03:46 PM
  13. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I blew my brother
    I stopped reading at this. WTH man.



























    I keed. :D
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    02-05-2014 03:50 PM
  14. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    I go to Starbucks a couple times a week with my Surface Pro and the only comments I ever got was from two other Surface users (ironically on the same day). The first guy had just traded in his iPad because he said it wouldn't run Flash and Java. He was fairly blase. The other guy was a true fanboy and chatted me up for five minutes getting pretty excited to see another Surface Pro in the wild. No one else has even given a look (that I've seen) that indicates they care what I am using.
    Last edited by BobLobIaw; 02-05-2014 at 05:54 PM.
    02-05-2014 05:35 PM
  15. RJ Priest's Avatar
    Here in Guelph....
    Dude!!! Guelph, Ontario? Never thought that I'd see that on WPcentral. Small (online) world. :p
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    02-05-2014 06:23 PM
  16. Guytronic's Avatar
    friends.jpg

    Love to see this at sTarbucks ... or anywhere else.

    Hipster on the left <> Nerd on the right.
    Both different and yet were the same.
    02-05-2014 06:28 PM
  17. kristalsoldier's Avatar
    I am curious....have you taken your RT or Pro into what I call Macland ( Starbucks ) ???

    I went off to visit my Mom, take her some treats and the finish cut of a video of my Father in his marching band prior to his passing. (She loved it)

    Any way I don't drive, so I use a combo of bus and taxi to make my way, and at the change over spot (Starbucks), I got coffee for us and called the cab.

    I was told it would be a bit as the cab company was overloaded. As I had my Surface with me I was happy to wait.

    Well you would have thought I pulled out kittens from my backpack and started to tear them apart. It went from nice and quiet to mumbles and grumbles. One comment I did manage to hear was " Ugh what's that doing here?"

    Being I live in a University town there is a large population of Mac users......and they do not seem to like us Surface dwellers.

    What reaction have you gotten from your Surface? Good or Bad????
    Well, I am usually working with my Surface 2 AND my iPad 4 at the same time! And, since I am on research leave, I spend a lot of time either on my University campus coffee shops, which have their fair share of Apple devices or in some random caf in town - not Starbucks though - at least not very often. And since I keep my head down and focus on my work, I am generally unaware of what people are saying around me. However, I once - recently - did have one person come up to me and ask me about the Surface. He was very polite and appeared to be very curious about the device. Before leaving he asked me as to whether I would recommend it to him to which I said yes, subject to what he intended to do with it. I have since run into him a number of times at the same coffee shop and we greet at each other. I have not bothered to ask him whether he eventually bought a Surface or not and he has not offered any information on that count.
    02-05-2014 07:34 PM
  18. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    Dude!!! Guelph, Ontario? Never thought that I'd see that on WPcentral. Small (online) world. :p
    I never thought there was another Surface Dweller in Guelph :)

    Same for World of Warcraft......till the launch night for burning crusade :)

    Nice to meet you !!
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    02-05-2014 07:35 PM
  19. Jas00555's Avatar
    In my hometown, I never hear anything about my Surface Pro other than when people at my college freak the hell out about how it has Office and they wonder where they can get it on their iPads, then mention how they wish they could be more productive on it (or just get a sad look on their face).

    Now when I go to the nearby "University town"..... dang. People that I went to high school with who now have Macs (poor souls, I feel so bad for them (; ) all get really just..... weird would be the best way to describe it. For example, I have a class there (the drive between my college and this college is only like 20 minutes) and when I had to present, I hooked up my Pro to the projector in class and when I was presenting something to the class, I was using two apps split down the middle and when I was done and sat down, the person next to me (mac user of course) was like "That's strange that you can run two app side by side. It seems really inefficient. That's why I love my mac, you should think about it too. It'll fix every problem you have with that software" and when I asked him "what problem?" he was all " oh, denial, don't worry buddy, I'll get you to buy one by the end of the semester."

    Like..... THAT'S JUST WEIRD! It really makes me feel weird to hear people say that, like they're robots or something. Now don't get me wrong, the majority just couldn't give a rat's @$$, but the ones that do just... idk, leave me with a weird feeling. Thankfully, I hate coffee and frappachinos and all of that stuff, so I've only been in a starbucks like twice, so I never have to deal with that. On the plus side though, the people who say that strike me as the kind of people who aren't the sharpest individuals and ask the teacher questions that are just idiotic to me (although I respect the fact that there are no dumb questions, these are just basic things that a person in that class should know).

    Anyways, that's my anti-mac rant. Carry on.
    02-05-2014 07:57 PM
  20. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    I would have to disagree. The reason it will not be embraced by Fortune 500 companies (yet) is because the OS isn't five years old. I've worked for three different Fortune 100 companies. At one of those, I was an IT guy.
    Bingo. I work for a F200 company and we just went to Windows 7 last spring. We are still rolling out the new image to almost half the company. Too much is at stake to roll out an immature OS for X more dollars.
    You are free to disagree but the age of an operating system is only ONE of factors to consider when deciding whether or not to deploy a new OS. Win 8 can be 5 years old and there would still be hesitancy to deploy it if it continues to rely on the Metro/Modern UI.

    Training, reworking legacy software, productivity, etc. are significant costs associated with rolling out an OS upgrade. While Metro can work for basic office work, it is a complete dud for vertical, mission-critical applications.
    02-05-2014 08:17 PM
  21. Kubiubo's Avatar
    I use my Surface RT daily at Starbucks. I take metro to work and generally have an hour or so before my shift starts, so I spend my time in Starbucks with my RT. I'm not the only one either, I've seen at least two others using Surface 2's. It's not like I live in a huge city or something, I live in a beach town.
    02-05-2014 08:27 PM
  22. RJ Priest's Avatar
    I never thought there was another Surface Dweller in Guelph :)
    Nice to encounter a fellow citizen online. :)
    To be fair, I don't have a surface (or any tablet for that matter), I'm just WP for now.

    I don't know how prevalent the Surface is in Canada, but one thing for sure, WP is non-existent. Safe to say that Blackberry is probably still far ahead of WP here.
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    02-05-2014 08:40 PM
  23. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I don't take my surface to Starbucks, but when people see my surface, most of then like it.
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    02-05-2014 08:54 PM
  24. oldpueblo's Avatar
    You are free to disagree but the age of an operating system is only ONE of factors to consider when deciding whether or not to deploy a new OS. Win 8 can be 5 years old and there would still be hesitancy to deploy it if it continues to rely on the Metro/Modern UI.

    Training, reworking legacy software, productivity, etc. are significant costs associated with rolling out an OS upgrade. While Metro can work for basic office work, it is a complete dud for vertical, mission-critical applications.
    Sounds like a company that's not on top of its ****. :) I know of one massive global company rolling to windows 8 for its tech advances (SMB 3.0 for example). Metro takes minutes to understand with a good teacher. Don't mistake many companies falling behind the curve being the norm or having bad IT people as a negative against win8. Major companies have the option of working with Microsoft at least a year before they actually release the OS, to be sure it will suit their needs and work with their stuff.
    Last edited by oldpueblo; 02-05-2014 at 10:53 PM.
    02-05-2014 10:38 PM
  25. willied's Avatar
    That's a pretty funny story. Anyway, I saw someone in my class today that had a Surface. Made me pretty happy to see it since it's the first one I've seen in the wild, and yet it's sad because it's the first one I've seen in the wild. There should be more people with them.
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    02-05-2014 10:42 PM
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