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  1. Wheels_____'s Avatar
    I broke out my HP Elite again after giving the iPhone X a spin. I get a fair amount of teasing from family and friends because they consider anything mobile from Microsoft “old”. I do get comments when I’m doing work but the sad part is most folks tell me “it’s too bad Microsoft bailed on their mobile platform”.
    The HP Elite and the Nokia 1520 are two of the best devices I’d ever used. It’s a shame that Microsoft can make such a great PC/tablet, (I own a Surface 4 Pro), but drop the ball so monumentally in their mobile division. I hope for the future.
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    06-11-2018 07:01 AM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I still use mine for continuum when at work, but use an android device when I'm out because I've gotten used to the convenience of android pay.

    Hopefully Microsoft will figure out a mobile payment platform with whatever ultra mobile play they roll out this year.
    I don't worry about mobile payment on Windows anymore. I use a Fitbit Ionic and it works perfectly. If by some miracle they turn on Edge notifications for mobile then I'll be all set.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S on mTalk
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    06-11-2018 07:39 AM
  3. ryanlrobinson's Avatar
    I have the HP Elite x3. It's a pretty standard black slab. Nobody looks at it and says "what is that?" It has come up a few times in the office casually - I work at an IT company - and it's usually a pretty neutral response. There's definitely a bit of uniqueness with about 90% of the office on Android, 5% on iOS, and 5% on old BlackBerry 10's. There's also some pity that I invested so much in something which died a year later (the hardware is still in fantastic shape, but doesn't mean much if I can't even get Microsoft apps like Planner).
    06-11-2018 07:53 AM
  4. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I broke out my HP Elite again after giving the iPhone X a spin. I get a fair amount of teasing from family and friends because they consider anything mobile from Microsoft “old”. I do get comments when I’m doing work but the sad part is most folks tell me “it’s too bad Microsoft bailed on their mobile platform”.
    The HP Elite and the Nokia 1520 are two of the best devices I’d ever used. It’s a shame that Microsoft can make such a great PC/tablet, (I own a Surface 4 Pro), but drop the ball so monumentally in their mobile division. I hope for the future.
    Pay no attention to the teasing. I think the "Windows XP" chicklet icon style screens of apple and google phones looks old fashioned / dated to me.

    I think everyone should support what they like. Pay no attention to the madness of crowds. Be strong, stand up and be counted, supporting what you like.

    Best Wishes
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 06-11-2018 at 08:18 AM.
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    06-11-2018 08:02 AM
  5. Dan12R's Avatar
    In most cases, when people ask about my phone, it's the first time they heard about Windows Mobile. I've had some fun conversations over the years.
    Person, seeing me run Continuum: "I see you hooked your computer up to your TV."
    Me: "That's my phone."
    Person: "WHAT!?! That's possible??? That's awesome!"

    Person at booth at a security conference promoting their mobile security product: "I bet I can hack your phone in 2 minutes or less."
    Me: "You're welcome to try."
    Person: "iOS or Android?"
    Me: "Windows"
    Person: "I can't hack your phone then."

    Regular comment I get: "What do you mean your phone runs Windows??? Is that even possible?"

    I also get a whole bunch of comments from people I know who work for Microsoft, especially when they introduce me to their coworkers and tell their coworkers I run Windows 10 Mobile.
    06-11-2018 08:34 AM
  6. Nelman's Avatar
    "Nice phone! Samsung?"
    No, Microsoft.
    "Oh, Android. How do you like it?"
    Not Android. Windows.
    "What?"
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    06-11-2018 08:50 AM
  7. jrealtor1's Avatar
    They usually respond by saying, "What kind of phone is that?" Followed by, "I didnt know Microsoft had phones!" ...but seriously, why is this site even asking this question? I hear Daniel Rubino complain that windows fans wont let mobile die, but yet here we are with a question from Windows Central asking about windows phones again. Really guys...let it go already!
    06-11-2018 09:10 AM
  8. naddy6969's Avatar
    First, I don't know anyone who "rocks" a phone. Does one "rock" a microwave oven?

    Second, back when I actually had a Windows phone, my family just thought I was weird. No one else noticed or cared. Looking back, I WAS just weird. Trying to "be different" by "not following the crowd". I actually WAS following a crowd, just a much smaller crowd.

    Third, I don't "daily drive" a phone. I use it. Nor do I "daily drive" a microwave oven.
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    06-11-2018 10:06 AM
  9. naddy6969's Avatar
    "Most people have no clue what so ever what OS they have on their phones. When people see my phone I tell them it's a Microsoft Phone and it's running Windows mobile they have no clue wtf I'm talking about."

    That's because most people are not OS geeks. Windows phone users sound like Linux fans. Always talking about how great the OS is. "Linux is such a great OS. Why are you still running Windoze?"

    Yawn.

    No one buys ANYTHING - a PC, a phone, tablet, whatever - to run an OS. They buy it to run the apps they need/want to run. They would buy it even if it was running CP/M and GEM, as long as they could do everything they wanted to do on it.

    Only OS geeks brag about the OS they are running, trying to impress other OS geeks. The rest of the world will have no clue what you are yammering on about. Nor will they care. We just want to watch a movie, check our email and maybe order a pizza.

    Its like a bunch of gear heads arguing about Ford/Chevy/Chrysler/whatever, and which tires are the best, and compression ratios, and 4 barrel carburetors vs fuel injection. And on and on. Meanwhile, the rest of us just want to drive to the restaurant to get a pizza and a beer.

    To most people, a phone (or a car) is just a means to an end. It is not a way of life. Those who let the nitty gritty details become their life are OS geeks (or gear heads).

    Not that there is anything wrong with either. The world needs both OS geeks and gear heads. Just don't expect others to share your passion for YOUR OS or YOUR carburetor. Expect eyes to glaze over when either comes up in the conversation over the pizza and beer.
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    06-11-2018 10:45 AM
  10. clrt's Avatar
    yea it's hard to explain how simple and easy it is to use my windows phone to others. I just tell them it does everything I need it to do. I hope that Microsoft will continue to produce a mobile platform so I don't have to choose something that I feel is inferior to my windows phone.
    06-11-2018 10:56 AM
  11. iSeeiSheep's Avatar
    I work from home a ton so I don't get too much public exposure with my Lumia 950 XL, but my daughters friends actually love the phone. My daughter only recently moved off Windows Phone because her old screen broke.

    Personally I have never had any negative conversations and the most recent unsolicited conversation was very positive. Unless Microsoft comes out with a phone I will probably move to Android vs Apple when my 950 finally dies of old age.
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    06-11-2018 05:38 PM
  12. TgeekB's Avatar
    "Most people have no clue what so ever what OS they have on their phones. When people see my phone I tell them it's a Microsoft Phone and it's running Windows mobile they have no clue wtf I'm talking about."

    That's because most people are not OS geeks. Windows phone users sound like Linux fans. Always talking about how great the OS is. "Linux is such a great OS. Why are you still running Windoze?"

    Yawn.

    No one buys ANYTHING - a PC, a phone, tablet, whatever - to run an OS. They buy it to run the apps they need/want to run. They would buy it even if it was running CP/M and GEM, as long as they could do everything they wanted to do on it.

    Only OS geeks brag about the OS they are running, trying to impress other OS geeks. The rest of the world will have no clue what you are yammering on about. Nor will they care. We just want to watch a movie, check our email and maybe order a pizza.

    Its like a bunch of gear heads arguing about Ford/Chevy/Chrysler/whatever, and which tires are the best, and compression ratios, and 4 barrel carburetors vs fuel injection. And on and on. Meanwhile, the rest of us just want to drive to the restaurant to get a pizza and a beer.

    To most people, a phone (or a car) is just a means to an end. It is not a way of life. Those who let the nitty gritty details become their life are OS geeks (or gear heads).

    Not that there is anything wrong with either. The world needs both OS geeks and gear heads. Just don't expect others to share your passion for YOUR OS or YOUR carburetor. Expect eyes to glaze over when either comes up in the conversation over the pizza and beer.
    This may be the most enlightening post I’ve read in a long time. People here should read it, twice, thrice and really absorb what you said. They won’t though because it’s common sense and negates their fantasy world.
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    06-11-2018 06:50 PM
  13. ATGURU's Avatar
    I still don't understand why everyone uses inferior phones such as Android and iPhone.😀
    06-11-2018 09:35 PM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    This may be the most enlightening post I’ve read in a long time. People here should read it, twice, thrice and really absorb what you said. They won’t though because it’s common sense and negates their fantasy world.
    It's a moot point since everybody knows Ford is better. Other than that, I agree it's a good read.
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    06-12-2018 06:15 AM
  15. Drael646464's Avatar
    This may be the most enlightening post I’ve read in a long time. People here should read it, twice, thrice and really absorb what you said. They won’t though because it’s common sense and negates their fantasy world.
    Well it might be somewhat self-evident to many I think, but tech people tend to lean into the systemizing (things, systems, mechanics, details), and less on the social side.


    There's always been some dude who wants to explain what makes his camera model special, and always been some hapless witness who just wants to get the heck out of their. They are both valid ways of looking at the world, but people in one camp tends to misunderstand the world of the other. And vice versa. To non-technical people it's all French.

    I always say this to people who say "people use the best system possible", and I'm like, no they don't. They use the thing their freinds are using, or ads market to them, or the thing they guess, from a distance, or past experience won't be total arse. Most people don't try every system. They try one thing, and if it doesn't totally suck, and their freinds don't ridicule them for using it, they'll stick to it - basically if it has any value at all, not whether it has the best value period. Consumers aren't fastidious and courageous experimenters. A very small percentage of the population is experimental, probably often the people who either pioneer the take up of a mainstream trend, or those who choose the thing that fails, lol.

    Market forces only act a little bit like evolution - sometimes they select the objectively inferior product. But that way of thinking, that tech markets are a super refined version of evolution, is a very systemizing mindset. It's not a social mindset. And you see it a lot in discussions of mobile technology.
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    06-12-2018 06:33 AM
  16. tgp's Avatar
    It's a moot point since everybody knows Ford is better. Other than that, I agree it's a good read.
    Hey now... I own a Ford, a Chrysler, and a Volkswagen. I'll take the GM any day!
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    06-12-2018 07:21 AM
  17. Martin Plamondon's Avatar
    I still use mine for continuum when at work, but use an android device when I'm out because I've gotten used to the convenience of android pay.

    Hopefully Microsoft will figure out a mobile payment platform with whatever ultra mobile play they roll out this year.
    The Wallet or whatever it is called on Windows 10 Mobile is available only in the US, I wanted to use mobile payment but no way to set this up outside USA, and I'm in Canada which usually not so far off on Microsoft features unlike the rest of the world which have much less MS features.
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    06-12-2018 08:00 AM
  18. Martin Plamondon's Avatar
    Have a bit of fun and tell them you're using MS-DOS Mobile :-) Install the app from the Microsoft Store and show them a DOS screen on your phone :-)
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    06-12-2018 08:14 AM
  19. WinCoder's Avatar
    I am always surprised at how positive everyone is when they see the Windows phone. They all ask to look at it and when I show them some of my favorite things about the phone, they invariably say "cool, that is really helpful"... Being a developer of apps, my phone is also set up with several apps that do not exist on either other platform and usually impress.
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    06-12-2018 11:21 AM
  20. TgeekB's Avatar
    Well it might be somewhat self-evident to many I think, but tech people tend to lean into the systemizing (things, systems, mechanics, details), and less on the social side.


    There's always been some dude who wants to explain what makes his camera model special, and always been some hapless witness who just wants to get the heck out of their. They are both valid ways of looking at the world, but people in one camp tends to misunderstand the world of the other. And vice versa. To non-technical people it's all French.

    I always say this to people who say "people use the best system possible", and I'm like, no they don't. They use the thing their freinds are using, or ads market to them, or the thing they guess, from a distance, or past experience won't be total arse. Most people don't try every system. They try one thing, and if it doesn't totally suck, and their freinds don't ridicule them for using it, they'll stick to it - basically if it has any value at all, not whether it has the best value period. Consumers aren't fastidious and courageous experimenters. A very small percentage of the population is experimental, probably often the people who either pioneer the take up of a mainstream trend, or those who choose the thing that fails, lol.

    Market forces only act a little bit like evolution - sometimes they select the objectively inferior product. But that way of thinking, that tech markets are a super refined version of evolution, is a very systemizing mindset. It's not a social mindset. And you see it a lot in discussions of mobile technology.
    But that’s like saying people should only eat at the “best” restaurant, or drive the “best” car. Who even knows what that is?
    They like familiarity, excellent customer service and of course good value. They don’t need supposed experts telling them what they should buy.
    Does marketing and advertising persuade people? Of course you t does, but then you had better live up to your promises. If Apple is going to tout great customer service, they had better do it so they have stores throughout the world with people that can help you pick out a phone or get it fixed if it’s broken. If they claim they are secure, they better be secure. That’s what people want, not some tech geeks recommendation because it has continuum, which most people don’t care about.
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    06-12-2018 04:26 PM
  21. TgeekB's Avatar
    Have a bit of fun and tell them you're using MS-DOS Mobile :-) Install the app from the Microsoft Store and show them a DOS screen on your phone :-)
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    I like that!
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    06-12-2018 04:26 PM
  22. TgeekB's Avatar
    I am always surprised at how positive everyone is when they see the Windows phone. They all ask to look at it and when I show them some of my favorite things about the phone, they invariably say "cool, that is really helpful"... Being a developer of apps, my phone is also set up with several apps that do not exist on either other platform and usually impress.
    But yet they don’t buy them, or at least not enough of them to save it.
    I too showed people my Windows phones. Where did it get us? That’s when you have to start asking the serious questions.
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    06-12-2018 04:27 PM
  23. AMRooke's Avatar
    I have noticed over the years that Windows phones are concentrated in pockets of users. Since MS never really pushed the platform, it has always been up to us users to be the champions. As we showed our friends how much better our phones were, some of them switched. I have not found many people who didn't like our phones, most often they just knew nothing about them, and are almost always amazed at the capabilities. There are about 15 Windows phones in my peer group, and getting converts is much tougher, now that production is so limited. I can't wait until Andromeda / win32 mobile devices come out, as my 950XL is ready to retire. I don't care what MS decides to call them, but they need to come up with some form of marketing strategy, as their history with naming has been terrible (e.g. people heard that Windows Phones were dead, but it was just a naming issue, as the old Windows Phones (WP7/8) were just renamed Windows 10 mobile when the OS technology updated. They created panic when none was warranted.
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    06-12-2018 05:17 PM
  24. AMRooke's Avatar
    Have a bit of fun and tell them you're using MS-DOS Mobile :-) Install the app from the Microsoft Store and show them a DOS screen on your phone :-)
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    I love that app. Have you opened Windows 3.1 on it (click on the Phone icon for an audio blast from the past), or run the RPS game yet?
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    06-12-2018 05:24 PM
  25. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I still don't understand why everyone uses inferior phones such as Android and iPhone.😀
    There is a book "The Madness of Crowds and Other Popular Delusions" that trys to explain the herd mentality. It's about marketing, to the lowest common denominator, I think. Microsoft isn't good at any kind of marketing.
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    06-12-2018 09:23 PM
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