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  1. evilrob's Avatar
    I've just got the L920 and am very happy with it, but it is heavy mind you.
    I actually quite like the fact it feels heavy and substantial. I was quite disappointed when I upgraded from an iPhone 4 (substantial) to iPhone 5 (feels like a toy).

    Thanks for your other insights too!
    09-11-2013 07:51 AM
  2. evilrob's Avatar
    I have to use the Outlook Web App because I only have 2003 versions of Outlook, so Office 365 can't interface with it.
    Do you currently use a Microsoft-hosted mailbox? i.e. an Outlook mailbox?

    I'd be interested to know how Outlook.com / Office 365 works compared with my current e-mail provider Gmail; I'm guessing an Outlook.com mailbox/contacts/calendar is going to play nicer with a Windows Phone (and I was thinking of ditching Gmail anyway).
    09-11-2013 07:53 AM
  3. George Jenkinson's Avatar
    Do you currently use a Microsoft-hosted mailbox? i.e. an Outlook mailbox?

    I'd be interested to know how Outlook.com / Office 365 works compared with my current e-mail provider Gmail; I'm guessing an Outlook.com mailbox/contacts/calendar is going to play nicer with a Windows Phone (and I was thinking of ditching Gmail anyway).
    As a business we moved to MS Office 365 this year and everything should be smoother, although I am the last to move over. As far as I understand it, it will be Outlook for email, calendar and contacts, but I'm not there yet, so I'm a little in limbo. As it happens, I am moving from Gmail, which I decided to do as I became increasingly unhappy with the intrusiveness of Google. It's too early to say whether everything will be as smooth as Google. They have everything linked so well - I had a Nexus 4 and it was amazing how integrated it all was/is.

    My hope - and the theory is - that WP and Office 365 desktop/laptop will be buttery smooth, but I'm not there yet. I use the Office software on the 920 daily and look forward to the full link up in due course, so it promises to be good. The only thing I'm not a fan of is that I don't find Outlook Web App as intuitive as Gmail, hopefully though, as it's a staging post, the full Outlook will be more to my liking.

    None of the large companies play well together, so picking one system seems necessary and the endless spats between Google and MS lose their novelty after a while, especially when you need to buy apps to open/edit simple MS docs which the whole world uses as a matter of course.

    I don't mind the heft of the phone either, it feels solid and Nokia make very good phones, so all in all, the move is going well, if at a gentler pace than I anticipated!
    09-11-2013 08:32 AM
  4. Rich Edmonds's Avatar
    Definitely will play nicer than Google's services for a variety of reasons. The best advice I give anyone who's moving into a Microsoft ecosystem is to go all the way. Same with Apple and / or Google. You'll have a better experience with unified services. I, myself moved from an Apple dominated ecosystem to 100% Microsoft. I owned a MacBook, Mac Mini, Apple TV, iPad, iPhone, you name it, I used. Even iTunes Match, etc. Moving across to Microsoft was a solid move and I've not looked back since. There are some annoyances with the current generation of software on both Windows and Windows Phone as others have rightfully pointed out, but these are "hopefully" going to be rectified in future updates. I'd continue to read up on some of our tutorials (especially the 101), we have one for switching from Apple (specifically the iPhone), but I'm finalising some of the articles, so be sure to stay tuned to further coverage on our end of new hardware and software.

    But continue what you've started already - ask around for honest opinions and answers
    09-11-2013 01:10 PM
  5. evilrob's Avatar
    Definitely will play nicer than Google's services for a variety of reasons. The best advice I give anyone who's moving into a Microsoft ecosystem is to go all the way. Same with Apple and / or Google. You'll have a better experience with unified services. I, myself moved from an Apple dominated ecosystem to 100% Microsoft. I owned a MacBook, Mac Mini, Apple TV, iPad, iPhone, you name it, I used. Even iTunes Match, etc. Moving across to Microsoft was a solid move and I've not looked back since. There are some annoyances with the current generation of software on both Windows and Windows Phone as others have rightfully pointed out, but these are "hopefully" going to be rectified in future updates. I'd continue to read up on some of our tutorials (especially the 101), we have one for switching from Apple (specifically the iPhone), but I'm finalising some of the articles, so be sure to stay tuned to further coverage on our end of new hardware and software.

    But continue what you've started already - ask around for honest opinions and answers
    Nice one - I'll go and check out the guides now! Thanks!
    09-11-2013 01:15 PM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Definitely will play nicer than Google's services for a variety of reasons. The best advice I give anyone who's moving into a Microsoft ecosystem is to go all the way. Same with Apple and / or Google. You'll have a better experience with unified services. I, myself moved from an Apple dominated ecosystem to 100% Microsoft. I owned a MacBook, Mac Mini, Apple TV, iPad, iPhone, you name it, I used. Even iTunes Match, etc. Moving across to Microsoft was a solid move and I've not looked back since. There are some annoyances with the current generation of software on both Windows and Windows Phone as others have rightfully pointed out, but these are "hopefully" going to be rectified in future updates. I'd continue to read up on some of our tutorials (especially the 101), we have one for switching from Apple (specifically the iPhone), but I'm finalising some of the articles, so be sure to stay tuned to further coverage on our end of new hardware and software.

    But continue what you've started already - ask around for honest opinions and answers
    Have you covered disabling iMessage prior to switching from an iPhone to a Windows Phone? I know that's an issue that a lot of people have experienced issues with SMS if they did not disable iMessage.
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    09-11-2013 01:17 PM
  7. evilrob's Avatar
    Have you covered disabling iMessage prior to switching from an iPhone to a Windows Phone? I know that's an issue that a lot of people have experienced issues with SMS if they did not disable iMessage.
    I would be doing that anyway as I'll be sticking the iPhone on eBay so it will be completely unlinked from iEverything and factory reset.
    09-11-2013 01:19 PM
  8. Rich Edmonds's Avatar
    Have you covered disabling iMessage prior to switching from an iPhone to a Windows Phone? I know that's an issue that a lot of people have experienced issues with SMS if they did not disable iMessage.
    I have now!
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    09-11-2013 01:39 PM
  9. DBDev's Avatar
    Welcome to WPCentral! You seem to have a really good plan there! About the tethering, it works great with my Lumia 800, and I'm almost sure that it will work as good with a L920
    09-11-2013 03:53 PM
  10. snowmutt's Avatar
    You make us giggle here on WPC... someone moving from Apple to MS always makes us smile more then Google/BlackBerry users switching, for some reason. Of the issues you brought up, here is my take from endless hours cruising forums:

    -The L920 is a great device, and the L925 is not really worth that much more in the way of improvements- it is simply a preference thing. I have read very little on either forum to lead me to believe you will miss the 925's camera improvements. The 920 is a dependable shooter and great in low light.

    -I would not hesitate at all in buying the 920 or 925 as far as major updates go: I am sure every Nokia WP8 will get 8.1. Neither Nokia or their future owner MS would live down them not getting it.

    -No way around this: The XBOX Music is not great right now. The shortcomings are a major reason I am still on WP7. But I also believe it is going to be addressed, and the service is reasonably priced jewel. I love it.

    -SkyDrive is amazing. Love it more as I use it.

    -Outlook is a very simple email provider. It synchs your addresses to your phone in a blink of an eye and does a great job backing up your contacts. Easy layout, smooth interface, and... well... you get your mail. What else is there to an email account??

    -I think windows RT is a fine OS. Just isn't Pro. For some reason, people expect it to be. If you are simply surfing, playing media, and doing basic Tablet functions, you will be happy with it.

    -You do not miss apps?? Koolness. But in case you need them, I expect WP to hit the 250,000 threshhold very soon- the vast majority of them decent to high quality.

    Let us know what you decide!!! And welcome to our neck of the internet....
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    09-11-2013 11:58 PM
  11. languedoctor's Avatar
    Just to be clear, there is a first-party spotify app for WP8. At least there is in the US. I'd assume it is available in other countries where spotify is available.
    Spotify | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)
    Spotify for Windows Phone 8 updated, kills beta tag and adds track scrubbing | The Verge
    09-12-2013 12:46 AM
  12. Marion Chisholm's Avatar
    I am not as Techo as you people, but i have had quite a number of Nokia phones over the years, and haven't ever had a problem till i bought this one in April. It is down as often as it is up and running.
    It took me weeks and a lot of help from the people i purchased from, the local Optus Shop, and various friends to be able to contact the internet.
    Each time I wrote a text message it would change to a variety of languages. The only way to cure that was to delete all the other languages.
    Any letters or symbols on the right side of the phone wouldnt work easily, and still dont.
    And now the camera wont work.
    * Plus the phone turned off as it ran out of battery very quickly, i charged it and it took three days before i was able to get it on again.
    * I have some apps and they were quite fun, but now i can barely see them as they are covered with pop ups offerng to sell me vitamins and a better love life. HOW DO I GET RID OF THOSE.
    09-12-2013 02:48 AM
  13. philhachey's Avatar
    I am not as Techo as you people, but i have had quite a number of Nokia phones over the years, and haven't ever had a problem till i bought this one in April. It is down as often as it is up and running.
    It took me weeks and a lot of help from the people i purchased from, the local Optus Shop, and various friends to be able to contact the internet.
    Each time I wrote a text message it would change to a variety of languages. The only way to cure that was to delete all the other languages.
    Any letters or symbols on the right side of the phone wouldnt work easily, and still dont.
    And now the camera wont work.
    * Plus the phone turned off as it ran out of battery very quickly, i charged it and it took three days before i was able to get it on again.
    * I have some apps and they were quite fun, but now i can barely see them as they are covered with pop ups offerng to sell me vitamins and a better love life. HOW DO I GET RID OF THOSE.
    sounds like a fake!

    Mabey some kind of Android with a custom launcher?
    09-12-2013 03:01 AM
  14. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    I got the 920 on the day it came out in the UK and I have to admit it feels a little old already. I would def wait for the 1020.
    09-12-2013 07:50 AM
  15. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    Anyone tethered a Surface RT to a 920 via internet sharing (or have any comments on the 920's internet sharing capabilities), seeing as the RT has no 3G built in?
    I've done so with a 920 and a Surface Pro. It worked fine with no problems although I rarely use it. I'm sure it would be fine with a Surface RT as well. Just make sure you have the latest firmware on the Surface; they recently resolved some issues related to WiFi.

    Also, AT&T sells a Beam USB Modem for 4G LTE that is compatible with Windows RT.
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    09-12-2013 08:03 AM
  16. crash1989's Avatar
    I am not as Techo as you people, but i have had quite a number of Nokia phones over the years, and haven't ever had a problem till i bought this one in April. It is down as often as it is up and running.
    • It took me weeks and a lot of help from the people i purchased from, the local Optus Shop, and various friends to be able to contact the internet.
    • Each time I wrote a text message it would change to a variety of languages. The only way to cure that was to delete all the other languages.
    • Any letters or symbols on the right side of the phone wouldn’t work easily, and still don’t.
    • And now the camera won’t work.
    * Plus the phone turned off as it ran out of battery very quickly, i charged it and it took three days before i was able to get it on again.
    * I have some apps and they were quite fun, but now i can barely see them as they are covered with pop ups offerng to sell me vitamins and a better love life. HOW DO I GET RID OF THOSE.
    Ohh god, that's terrible. Did you contact Nokia support regarding the device's condition. If camera, screen and charging aren't working correctly it might be a defective unit.

    You should have it replaced by Nokia or your dealer. There are no ads covering the apps in Windows Phone, can you post a picture of what you see, maybe we can figure it out.
    09-12-2013 11:49 AM
  17. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    I didn't read every post, but in general I am 100% Microsoft. I've been a PC guy forever and have never owned an apple product. But when it comes to services, you need to pick the services that work for you best, not always try to force one into what you want.
    I don't have an xbox, so I don't use that for any media (thought the xbox one sounds nice now that the Kinect is optional), but I have nokia music, hulu, Netflix, Pandora. I use skydrive and drop box heavily to sync from phone to PC's (work and home). I use exchange, outlook.com and gmail for emails. (work and personal).
    I find most things work seamlessly across my L928 and various PC's (all win7 or newer) and I can get almost anything I want or need with maybe a few work-arounds here or there (converting videos with handbrake for my phone for example to .m4v from .mkv). Most of my music is ripped from CD, so I am not really tied to a music provider and when I do purchase mp3s they are from amazon or other not iTunes or Microsoft sources.

    Really, I try to keep a lot of my services hardware independent, that way I'm not tied to one service. I found no issues coming from android to windows phone, other than losing saved games for angry birds, because most of my stuff was online or synced somewhere else.
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    09-12-2013 01:36 PM
  18. Julaayi's Avatar
    I use all of the devices and services you mentioned.. here is my experience with them..

    Outlook.com - got irritated with the spam and UI of gmail and completely switched to hotmail 2 years ago. I have no complaints at all it has less spam, great UI, Integration with facebook, Facebook, skype, gchat right from website, Skydrive, office Web Apps. security using Authenticator. Did I Mention the clean easy to use UI.

    Xbox Video - used to buy stuff through Amazon but lack of Amazon Video apps got me looking for other options. Xbox Video seems like a good replacement but content is not available on Windows phone and it doesnt have a web player.

    Xbox Music - Replaced Slacker radio, Amazon music, definitely worth it. Syncs across devices very well.
    Some features missing in phone but will be available in 8.1. The Music collection is ENORMOUS. Indian Music (3 Different languages) and English of course.

    Surface RT- recently added this to my collection. Was skeptical at first but absolutely loved it especially the Network Home group, Office, touch keyboard, Integration, Multitasking and ohh.. FLASH in IE. No other TABLET comes even close.

    Xbox 360 - games obviously but I own an older dumb tv so I use it for the apps too( Netflix, Amazon Video, Xbox Video...)

    Lumia 1020 - A great phone overall and it is much cheaper compared to the other 32GB devices out there.

    My switch to all Windows ecosystem started 2 years ago with hotmail and completed with recent Surface RT purchase.Somewhere along the line I switched from google to bing(dont know how that happened).

    Hope this helped.
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    09-12-2013 03:18 PM
  19. evilrob's Avatar
    Thanks, everyone - I'm sold!

    I'm going to get all my Apple gear on eBay at the weekend, then see if any deals can be had after Microsoft's big announcement on the 23rd. So in the next 3-4 weeks I hope to be fully Microsoft'd up!
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    09-13-2013 12:18 PM
  20. evilrob's Avatar
    So I was pretty fired up to make the switch, then Microsoft went and did this:



    Wait... is that meant to be... Steve Jobs!? Oh wow... :facepalm:

    (this is a mirror - the original videos on the windowsphone YouTube channel were pulled after the internet said "no")

    Article about it:
    Microsoft tries (and fails) to make fun of the new iPhones | TechHive
    09-13-2013 03:32 PM
  21. stmav's Avatar
    The opening of the ad says Cupertino 2013. So it was in no way meant to be Jobs. After all you've been told, don't let a poor ad influence you.
    09-13-2013 03:55 PM
  22. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Dude. Like stmav said. Don't let a stupid as influence your decision in stuff. Doesn't do anything about your decision in things. But if you heard the rumours of WP8.1 having a cool as personal assistant cortana and also multi select tiles. Etc then I'm pretty sure those features are better influencing than an ad
    09-13-2013 03:59 PM
  23. evilrob's Avatar
    I'm still pumped about getting a Lumia 920, Surface RT and Xbox - I just wish Microsoft would sort their PR out. They have all these great products but really don't do themselves any favours with stunts like this!
    09-13-2013 04:10 PM
  24. 12Danny123's Avatar
    I'm still pumped about getting a Lumia 920, Surface RT and Xbox - I just wish Microsoft would sort their PR out. They have all these great products but really don't do themselves any favours with stunts like this!
    I think that's the reason why they purchased Nokia's hardware and services division. So they can fire there current ones and use Nokia's :-)
    09-13-2013 04:20 PM
  25. rdubmu's Avatar
    Welcome to the forums and i see that the others have helped you along.

    About the PR, don't worry about it, and there are some pretty funny ones like this one that should help you make the switch.

    Sorry about the Youtube...google link ;P


    My current setup is: iMac 2011, Apple TV, iPad (i only use one app, security camera app for my restaurant) xbox 360 Surface Pro, Windows 8 Laptop and then for phones, I have a Lumia 920, and my wife has a iPhone 4s.

    The best part I find about the Apple Ecosystem is Apple TV, I love how you can stream a video or desktop to my big screen tv. If I wanna watch a movie that is in Safari, i can stream via Apple TV and put it in full screen mode. I believe that you will beable to do this with Xbox One. I am also a fan of both MAC OS X and Windows.

    For productivity I use my Surface Pro as I use mostly Microsoft Products for the cloud, Email, skydrive, calendar, Office 365 (university edition). Outlook 2013 I find as the best productivity app I have ever encountered. :)

    My advice is that you can use both MAC, and Windows and be fine. We currently have about a 50% split. I do find that Windows 8 and Windows Phone is better than ios and MAC OS X. The only thing that IOS has going for it is top of the line devices like the 5s, and the app marketplace. I love how I have everything integrated on my Lumia 920.

    I highly suggest for a tablet to get either a Surface Pro or regular Surface (RT)
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    09-14-2013 02:04 AM
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