07-11-2013 11:26 AM
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  1. RSB54's Avatar
    you need to do some research, that "mega-mega pixel" with its faux zoom doesn't do "digital zoom".
    Hmm, so you are saying the Lumia EOS has an optical zoom? I've not seen any rumors on magnification (Samsung's has 10x). If so I will stand corrected, as I said photography is not what I look for in a phone. A "good" camera is good enough for me.
    07-07-2013 06:40 PM
  2. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    Hmm, so you are saying the Lumia EOS has an optical zoom? I've not seen any rumors on magnification (Samsung's has 10x). If so I will stand corrected, as I said photography is not what I look for in a phone. A "good" camera is good enough for me.
    I should've went into detail. Also I think I was slightly off in understanding what you meant. I meant that you can essentially zoom into a photo when cropped taken at 41mp. Because of the higher pixel count, no loss in detail is observed.

    I believe you meant before taking a picture and zooming in, in that case it is digital but you get better results when you crop.
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    07-07-2013 10:03 PM
  3. Storl's Avatar
    I should've went into detail. Also I think I was slightly off in understanding what you meant. I meant that you can essentially zoom into a photo when cropped taken at 41mp. Because of the higher pixel count, no loss in detail is observed.

    I believe you meant before taking a picture and zooming in, in that case it is digital but you get better results when you crop.
    What you want is downsampling, not cropping. You get 38Mp which you want to downsample to about 5-8mp for best results, the 38 Mp gets interesting when in need of massive digital zoom, but don't expect great photos when that is being used (it will still look grainy/noisy as hell when in 100% mode), also instead of letting the phone firmware handle the downsampling you can save the 38Mp picture and use Lightroom or other software instead for that, eitherway the resulting picture 5Mp picture will always outperform the 5Mp picture of a 8Mp Phone.
    The Sensor is 41Mp but it's only using 38Mp (7152 x 5368 pixels) for 4:3, and 34Mp (7728x4354) for 16:9, that is if it's really the same sensor as on the PureView 808, but hopefully the new Lumia also comes with OIS and low light improvements, which would make the new Lumia really be the phone if you want one that does the best images currently possible on such a device.
    07-07-2013 10:43 PM
  4. Kram Devil's Avatar
    How will the competition counter EOS?
    1. by putting up an R&D near Nokias headquarters to steal secrets or engineers
    2. try to take over nokia to get the tech
    3. pass it off as a fad by a massive smear job using apple and android sites to marginalize EOS mindshare.
    4. ignore it so people don't know there's even such a thing as a 41mp phone.
    100. and lastly but probably most unlikely - innovate so they can create something better.
    calfee20 and maverick786us like this.
    07-07-2013 10:57 PM
  5. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    What you want is downsampling, not cropping. You get 38Mp which you want to downsample to about 5-8mp for best results, the 38 Mp gets interesting when in need of massive digital zoom, but don't expect great photos when that is being used (it will still look grainy/noisy as hell when in 100% mode), also instead of letting the phone firmware handle the downsampling you can save the 38Mp picture and use Lightroom or other software instead for that, eitherway the resulting picture 5Mp picture will always outperform the 5Mp picture of a 8Mp Phone.
    The Sensor is 41Mp but it's only using 38Mp (7152 x 5368 pixels) for 4:3, and 34Mp (7728x4354) for 16:9, that is if it's really the same sensor as on the PureView 808, but hopefully the new Lumia also comes with OIS and low light improvements, which would make the new Lumia really be the phone if you want one that does the best images currently possible on such a device.
    Thx alot for clarification, I am definitely getting this phone, only Nokia puts that type of dedication into a platform. Go Nokia!!!
    maverick786us likes this.
    07-08-2013 02:08 AM
  6. eurovisionacts's Avatar
    Or just put some competent specs and not firewall yourself and take it up the *** from AT&T.

    Sony Honami Reputed Specs:

    *SCREEN = 5" Triluminous LCD Display (Used in 2013 Bravia TVs with quantum dots over regular RGB)

    *HARDWARE = 2.3GHZ Qualcomm Snapdraggon 800 CPU chip , Adreno 330 GPU , 2GB Ram & 16/32GB Internal Memory with SD card upto 64GB expansion.

    *BATTERY = 3000 Mah with Stamina Mode

    *CAMERA = Camera 20 megapixel 1/1, 5 inch Exmor R (Same as Sony REX II), 4K Video Recording , Bionz Image Processor Mobile , Integrated Lens G lens , F2.0 aperture , SteadyShot Image Stabilization , ISO 50-12800 , Cybershot UI with Multiple features.

    *SOUND = Separate audio processor chip , such as Walkman S-Master MX , 5.1 Support , Stereo speakers magnet technology Bravia liquid (Still in rumour stage , to be confirmed).

    *BUILD = Waterproof , Dustproof with IP58 certification , 9mm thickness , uses Aluminium , Glass & Iron frame!

    If this phone comes out before september, good game Nokia. Ditching my 920 for this beast. And it probably wont be a ridiculous $299 on contract price.

    How will the competition counter EOS?
    1. by putting up an R&D near Nokias headquarters to steal secrets or engineers
    2. try to take over nokia to get the tech
    3. pass it off as a fad by a massive smear job using apple and android sites to marginalize EOS mindshare.
    4. ignore it so people don't know there's even such a thing as a 41mp phone.
    100. and lastly but probably most unlikely - innovate so they can create something better.
    07-11-2013 11:26 AM
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