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  1. Deutscher2's Avatar
    I dont reply to personal attacks with personal attacks so I will leave that comment unanswered.

    As anyone with eyes will see however, the 1020 pic has considerable grain, especially on the flowerpot area.
    It was a Question. But once again: Do you have knowledge about Photography? And Do you have some personal rage against the Lumia 1020?

    @unternull: "just so everyone knows these are the 38+5mp photos "
    I can only see the Pureview 5MP Pics. Whrer are the 38MP Pics?
    07-22-2013 03:03 PM
  2. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    just so everyone knows these are the 38+5mp photos that i have uploaded vs the 920
    Care share link to those 38Mpix shots?

    1020 seems to produce better DOF even it is 2.2f compared to 2.0f
    07-22-2013 03:03 PM
  3. unternull's Avatar
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...Pp_qy5ezJaj20k 920 a little snack, apolgize pics are off a tad im hungry

    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...Pmj4K7Yvj9s64E 1020 in 5mp mode
    07-22-2013 03:09 PM
  4. Deutscher2's Avatar
    Lumia 1020 (100%):


    Lumia 920 (resized):
    07-22-2013 03:10 PM
  5. unternull's Avatar
    give me a sec ill upload those i thought i had uploaded those to begin with

    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...HbJFmo4df8VrgY 38mp pasta
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...DE-DRj4TbKjkFc 38mp statues
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...Bh1e3TzEVFBIHc 38 mp purple flower
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...FX4_e0SnQHOLt4 38mp pixie
    Last edited by unternull; 07-22-2013 at 03:21 PM.
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    07-22-2013 03:10 PM
  6. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...Pp_qy5ezJaj20k 920 a little snack, apolgize pics are off a tad im hungry

    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...Pmj4K7Yvj9s64E 1020 in 5mp mode
    Before someone says that 1020 is noisy let me tell that it is Nokias postprocessing noise that they ad to 5Mpix images. It doesn't work very well on that shot. You can see it in all 5Mpix images.
    07-22-2013 03:15 PM
  7. LumiaChemist's Avatar
    Before someone says that 1020 is noisy let me tell that it is Nokias postprocessing noise that they ad to 5Mpix images. It doesn't work very well on that shot. You can see it in all 5Mpix images.
    I first thought so too, because bicubic nor lanczos produces noise if you use them to supersample the 38MP pictures.
    But in the end, its only introduced through massive post-sharpening.
    07-22-2013 03:21 PM
  8. warrentaye's Avatar
    I have to admit that pixie shot looks pretty damn good
    07-22-2013 03:23 PM
  9. B T C's Avatar
    Look at that. The 920 pic is clearly better.

    Just kidding.
    07-22-2013 03:26 PM
  10. Deutscher2's Avatar
    I have to admit that pixie shot looks pretty damn good
    I think a reason is, that unternull now knows the 1020 a little better, so he can shoot better Pictures.
    07-22-2013 03:28 PM
  11. PeSoNder's Avatar
    a lot more details in those 1020 photos.
    07-22-2013 03:29 PM
  12. josemon's Avatar
    I have to admit that pixie shot looks pretty damn good
    ya its soo good...
    07-22-2013 03:30 PM
  13. warrentaye's Avatar
    I think a reason is, that unternull now knows the 1020 a little better, so he can shoot better Pictures.
    Which is a very good thing.
    07-22-2013 03:32 PM
  14. Deutscher2's Avatar
    Maybe you can explain, how you shoot this Photo? Just "click and shoot" or do you something else like man. focus ect.?
    07-22-2013 03:35 PM
  15. LumiaChemist's Avatar
    and dont go full rage on this grainy parts. its absolut normal for this process even a dslr would look like this.

    Here is a picture taken with my d5100, iso 200, supersampled like the 1020 and sharpened.
    Really grainy in those parts who would appear even in real life.

    dsc_0062.jpg
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    07-22-2013 03:37 PM
  16. bygbyron3's Avatar
    They are 34 MP.

    38 MP is 4:3
    34 MP is 16:9

    both add a 5 MP JPEG

    just the nature of round sensors and square pictures
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    07-22-2013 03:38 PM
  17. josemon's Avatar
    @unternull

    did u change the white balance in previous pictures
    07-22-2013 03:45 PM
  18. biboyflip's Avatar
    I am really impressed with the color reproduction in these images.
    07-22-2013 03:47 PM
  19. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    When looking those new photos i can tell that noise isn't issue at all. 1020 should take quite good low light photos. I know from experience with my 920 that i can shoot easily at 100-200 ISO @ 1/3 shutter speeds without blurring. OIS really helps there. 1020 produces less noise and it is much finer grade so it is no brainer that low light shots should look quite good.

    I also like lot how 1020 isolates subjects from background. Very nice DOF for phones camera. Skilled photographer will be able take very good photos whit it.
    07-22-2013 03:48 PM
  20. unternull's Avatar
    click and shoot
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    07-22-2013 03:54 PM
  21. unternull's Avatar
    white balance was set to auto
    07-22-2013 03:55 PM
  22. unternull's Avatar
    They are 34 MP.

    38 MP is 4:3
    34 MP is 16:9

    both add a 5 MP JPEG

    just the nature of round sensors and square pictures
    Yes sorry thanks for the clarification.
    07-22-2013 03:57 PM
  23. Winfonejunkie's Avatar
    I see we have a troll in out midst...
    07-22-2013 03:57 PM
  24. Winfonejunkie's Avatar
    delete
    07-22-2013 04:02 PM
  25. Winfonejunkie's Avatar
    For those living in a small world who don't acknowledge that anything but Nokia phones exist, 920 comparisons may be good enough. But in the real world, there's a sea of smartphones with better cameras than the 920, and the 1020 needs to be able to trump those slim, sexy, less expensive, and far more powerful smartphones in the camera department to justify its very existence. It's already been established time and time again by mainstream non-Nokia *** kissing phone review sites both large and small that the 920 has one of the weakest daylight capabilities of any smartphone. You can tell an image was taken by the 920 because its blurry and edges are always poorly defined, even at high noon. Saying that you shouldn't introduce Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5 pics to compare is like saying the 1020 is so bad it can't compete directly and instead needs to find an uglier cousin to stand next to. Many of the images do look better than the 920, but my old 8MP Note 2 really spanks the 1020 on sharpness and non-fuzzy detail. Can't imagine how much spanking the 13MP Galaxy S4 will give it, or the new iPhone 5S with 13MP. The only reason why I don't have the S4 right now is because I was waiting out for months in anticipation for the 1020. Talk about a cruel joke. I might as well wait for the LG G2, Sony Honami, and Note 3 before deciding on my next phone.
    Hey cool guy, perhaps its best you go use your iphone and leave us alone. You posted nothing but a mountain of BS here. I hope you weren't serious in their being a "sea" of phones with better cameras than the 920...:
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    07-22-2013 04:03 PM
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