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  1. shadyghost's Avatar
    I personally think this is one of the few shots the 1020 beats the 808 outright. I will take clarity but grain in the background over softness on the focus point but lack of grain. It's far more difficult to improve softness on an image than noise because you can't add detail. In post production I (as a designer) can easily clean up the background of that shot and add more blur, but I would be hard pressed to improve the image quality of either. Actually my issue with most 808 shots compared to the 1020 is how soft the image is compared to the 1020. I give the slight advantage to the 808 in distance shots and low light shots using flash for the most part (from what Ive seen) all settings on auto. The problem is, the AI is different so different results will be had. I am inclined to think the proof will be in the manual manipulation. I can't wait to see a comparison from someone who shoots with the manual settings and knows both phone's weaknesses and strengths. I think both will be very similar while still maintaining separate strengths over the other.
    Deutscher2 likes this.
    07-25-2013 03:24 PM
  2. shadyghost's Avatar
    One other thing to note, your example of the lady's face is exactly why I think Nokia used the processing algorithms they used because I can almost assure you 90% of the phone's users would select the picture on the left as the "better" picture based simply off how clear her face looks compared to the 808 (regular zoom). People for the most part are only going to be looking at their pics on the phone screen, maybe a laptop screen but almost never will be zooming in to look at the individual pixels. I am inclined to think from that example alone if I had to choose one over the other I would still take the 808 but the 808 does look a bit soft. People confuse softness with being out of focus and conversely grain with detail and so Nokia implemented a AI that plays well into their zoom anywhere to reframe the picture strategy. I still think the 1020 sharpens too much and the 808 shoots softer details.

    Bottom line is, the best pictures I have seen taken between these two phones have been from the 808, but I think that is more due to the fact it has been out since 2012 and the software has been perfected and people have had that much more time with it to figure out how to maximize it's awesome tech. Give the 1020 some time.
    Deutscher2 likes this.
    07-25-2013 03:38 PM
  3. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    Sharpness that sits between 1020 and 808 images would be just perfect. 1020 looks often too sharp and 808 usually looks too soft. Also colour saturation bit down so it sits between those two devices. 1020 usually looks too saturated and 808 quite often very bland. That way they could clean more noise out of photo without losing too much sharpness. Then IQ would be there how i wanted it to be and i think majority of other people too.
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    07-25-2013 03:57 PM
  4. JustToClarify's Avatar
    you can always set sharpness on 808...one tap on the screen and you can save the setting
    07-25-2013 04:00 PM
  5. Stil_1's Avatar
    you can always set sharpness on 808...one tap on the screen and you can save the setting
    It would be really nice if they patch the 1020 to support this eventually. I'm all for more adjustable settings.

    Mostly, I'd like to adjust the Sharpness and noise Reduction.
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    07-25-2013 05:11 PM
  6. Cod3rror's Avatar
    Sharpness that sits between 1020 and 808 images would be just perfect. 1020 looks often too sharp and 808 usually looks too soft. Also colour saturation bit down so it sits between those two devices. 1020 usually looks too saturated and 808 quite often very bland. That way they could clean more noise out of photo without losing too much sharpness. Then IQ would be there how i wanted it to be and i think majority of other people too.
    I completely agree.

    Set the sharpness and saturation in-between 808 and 1020, and it's good stuff!
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    07-25-2013 06:19 PM
  7. kopi22's Avatar
    Compare these images.

    1020

    http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up..._54_45_Pro.jpg

    808

    http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...07-24-3278.jpg



    1020 does not have blurring and smearing, but 1020's bokeh is all grainy, the paper itself is also very grainy with text not being as soft as 808.
    I do like the graininess of 1020 if you are talking about the text. Too soft for 808 and it is smudging if you ask me.
    07-25-2013 08:36 PM
  8. Cod3rror's Avatar
    Here's a little before/after I did with a picture from flickr.

    BEFORE

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...090ca761_o.jpg

    AFTER (Blur, Adjusted Vibrance/Saturation)

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...90yca761_o.jpg



    Nokia should update their firmware and sort this crap out. There should not be the need to use Photoshop after you take the picture.
    07-26-2013 11:56 AM
  9. vlad0's Avatar
    It would be really nice if they patch the 1020 to support this eventually. I'm all for more adjustable settings.

    Mostly, I'd like to adjust the Sharpness and noise Reduction.
    They probably bring a lot of things over with updates.. they are -5 to +5 scales for sharpness, saturation, and contrast.. very useful.

    I think that overall the camera UX on the 1020 is better, but the one on the 808 is more practical in terms of fine tuning your settings.
    07-26-2013 12:18 PM
  10. vlad0's Avatar


    Nokia should update their firmware and sort this crap out. There should not be the need to use Photoshop after you take the picture.
    No camera is perfect, and we all see things a little differently...
    07-26-2013 12:23 PM
  11. noksu's Avatar
    Nokia Already Has An Update to Pro Camera App for Lumia 1020
    http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/07/26/nokia-already-has-an-update-to-pro-camera-app-for-lumia-1020/
    07-26-2013 04:27 PM
  12. Mississauga411's Avatar
    Can anyone help out with uploading pics to twitter. A nice high quality pic once uploaded looks like it was taken with a one time use from 7-11.. very Dissappointed
    11-05-2013 06:02 PM
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