Some 1020 vs 808 comparisons i found in the web today

[vlad0]

More, this time locked at 200iso

All these differences will be exaggerated further if you take the phones outside and shoot some proper landscapes and close ups

The shutter speeds did adjust.. to my surprise the 1020 went lower than the 808 @ 200iso

808
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/9405394586_ae2de8458d_o.jpg
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1020
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/9402635859_bef16eda3e_o.jpg
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808 (max zoom + flash)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5475/9402636413_b71a04d56e_o.jpg
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1020 (max zoom + flash)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7429/9402634843_3973429aef_o.jpg

808
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7334/9402634359_f045b2b495_o.jpg
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1020
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/9405391744_cbc6da2cbc_o.jpg
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808
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/9402631691_462a894e30_o.jpg
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1020
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7287/9402632519_c42216af72_o.jpg
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808
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3828/9405387750_cee0a7bbfa_o.jpg
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1020
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5518/9405388146_ceaa86ec29_o.jpg
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808
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/9405386944_4569aa12e3_o.jpg
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1020
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3826/9405387076_d8c81d8e71_o.jpg
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808 (flash)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7329/9402628601_1aea28e3e7_o.jpg
1020 (flash) ... seems to be out of focus, and you can see the difference in color reproduction
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2894/9402633809_16b7e61564_o.jpg

 

[hcrick]

For some reason the 1020 shots look way out of focus, almost like the OIS wasn't even working properly. Maybe something wrong with the demo unit you used.

 

[vlad0]

Ya maybe.. I will try the second unit in the store when I get a chance. They also have one of those "low light test boxes" set up, so I might try that as well.

I can't figure out how to send the full resolution images form the 1020 to my 808 over bluetooh ... is that even possible ? When I click "share" it only shares the pureview image. So that's why I did the full zoom test.. that is 1:1 pixel ratio .. the full res images shouldn't be all that different.

 

[vlad0]

And yet again... 85% jpeg compression vs 95% .. I really don't understand why people refuse use 95% on the 808

Anyway, very good comp overall if you are using auto settings

The first big PureView battle: Nokia 808 vs Lumia 1020

 

[hcrick]

Fantastic link and comparison, thanks! I still like the 808's auto white balance more but I'm certain one can get similar results on the 1020 using manual settings. Overall though, I do prefer the processing and sharpening incorporated by the 1020, but that's just my taste.

 

[JustToClarify]

808 can be set to anyones taste

 

[hcrick]

Not true, you can't set it to Windows Phone 8 :smile:

 

[JustToClarify]

you think so?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlG5PwwFJdw

 

[theefman]

I see you guys are still going out of your way to try and say the 1020 has a bad camera, keep it up.....

 

[JustToClarify]

it has a very good camera(far better than all other phones in production), just not up to 808 standards that's all

 

[biboyflip]

808 is a good camera, but 1020 is far better overall. Way past the standard of 808.

 

[vlad0]

It seems like in order for you to extract the maximum from the 1020 you have to shoot in full resolution, and the downscale on a PC later.. that results in better IQ than the 5Mpix pureview image from the phone.

This isn't the case with the 808.. you can get pretty much max it out in 8mpix pureview mode..

 

[SuperMAG]

another test done by AAS.
4 way flagship phone camera shootout: Nokia 808, Lumia 1020 and 925, Galaxy S4 Zoom

Have to say, 808 vs 1020 still comes equal in terms of camera, in some situations, 808 win while other 1020.

If the firmware update does give us control over noise (sharpness) and color, then it will definitely surpass 808.

But i suspect nokia will lower noise without giving us control over sharpness and leave these colors also without giving us control.

 

[biboyflip]

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/18061_Four_way_flagship_phone_camera.php

If one doesn't have to read the analysis and comment of the author, L1020 is a runaway winner in terms of details and sharpness and overall product. Color reproduction is not reliable in that test if the basis for comparison are the 808 images.

The first comparison with the flower image, L1020 is the SURE winner. You can not fix details and sharpness in post processing but color YES. I can not understand how the 808 won that round (ah yes, maybe because its all about symbian ). If the 808 is having problem taking sharp photos due to hand shake in bright sunlight, what more in dark scenarios? I hope the author is not suggesting that a tripod is needed in order to have crisp photos with 808 to compensate for not having OIS even in bright sunlight. I am not even sure if OIS in L1020 was a big factor in that specific test.

 

[JustToClarify]

you can fire the xenon there for a very fast shutter speed(so even handshake wouldn't matter) and increase sharpness to the maximum, that way the picture would look even sharper than 1020 while retaining real colors also you can remember the color of one flower and postprocess it to look real, but what if you shoot 30 flowers and go back to your PC for postprocessing, would you remember the real color of each one?

808 is a good camera, but 1020 is far better overall. Way past the standard of 808.

nope, you can get the 1020-like picture from 808 whenever you want while the opposite is not possible, huge difference there...the only advantage 1020 has is night situations where you are shooting static subject and don't have time to rest your phone against something to stabilise it, and that's what..1 in 1000 situations?

 

[Deutscher2]

the only advantage 1020 has is night situations where you are shooting static subject and don't have time to rest your phone against something to stabilise it, and that's what..1 in 1000 situations?

Sorry, but your comments looks just like . Do you have read the Article?
Do you looked at the DAYLIGHT Pictures?

808 vs. 1020

"But it's just topped by the wonderful image from the Lumia 1020, with good detail and colour. In contrast, the S4 Zoom achieves detail, but the shot is over-exposed and some of the rich colour has been lost. While the 808's version looks too cold and with characteristically average macro performance."


"...the Lumia 1020 seemed to manage it best of all."

 

[JustToClarify]

cold or not that's how it looked that day, also don't forget those settings are all auto...you can get the 1020-like photo with just a few clicks on 808 settings...it's not the rocket science really

808 can give excellent macro results you just have to know how but if you want easy macro you better buy HTC One than 1020/808...

 

[biboyflip]

Are you saying use xenon flash in bright daylight even when the subject is well lit just to have faster exposure time/crsip image? There is sufficient lighting in that flower that even a xenon flash will have minimal effect. You dont have a backlit problem in that test as you can see in the other shots taken by s4zoom and 925. Seriously its not rocket science. Color reproduction is bogus if the basis of comparison is the 808. Kinda funny actually.

 

[JustToClarify]

xenon is not used here for lighting, just faster shutter speed to eliminate handshake effects

yes the basis of comparison is the 808 since it has (along N8) the best color reproduction among all phones

 

[biboyflip]

xenon is not used here for lighting, just faster shutter speed to eliminate handshake effects

yes the basis of comparison is the 808 since it has (along N8) the best color reproduction among all phones

Sorry my friend, but I think you are reaching already. Xenon flash IS always used for Lighting and for no other reason. You use flash to compensate for lack of lighting in dark scenario to minimize exposure time to theoretically achieve your EV (ev 0) default. In well lit scenario, just like the flower test where you have bright sunlight, flash or even xenon flash will not be much of help in the shutter speed because even without it the exposure time is already set automatically less than 1/500s which should be more than enough to have fast capture/crisp image even without OIS. Use flash in that scenario will not speed up exposure time, nor eliminate handshake but lighten up more the subject. No effect on sharp image.