09-19-2013 07:44 AM
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  1. Dave Blake's Avatar
    These two devices are just different flagship devices to service different tastes. Would you ask the same question for the Samsung GS4 and Samsung Note 3? Simple answer to the OP question...NO
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    09-17-2013 07:30 PM
  2. firewall2302's Avatar
    What is obsolete? It means that the device in question can no longer perform its intended function. I love it when people say, "My computer is obsolete," and I learn (or already know) that all they do is surf the web and email. A Windows 98 computer will do most of that. Obsolete is a matter of what you want to do with a device, not whether something better is available.
    While I agree that a lot of people who think their computer is obsolete need to take a better look at what they actually use it for I WOULD submit that a Win98 PC is obsolete even for browsing the web. After all, it's locked to older browser versions which lack CSS3+HTML5 support and are far less secure than today's offerings.
    09-17-2013 07:38 PM
  3. Bicpug's Avatar
    Why would they be obsolete? they still do the same things they did when we got them and the latest uber phone does nothing new...just a few things better.
    09-17-2013 07:46 PM
  4. DalekSnare's Avatar
    None of the 9xx or the 1020 are obsolete, any more than the 2013 Honda Pilot makes the 2013 Honda Accord obsolete. Same generation, different types of phone. The 900 is obsolete, and no one would choose it over a 920. But each of the 9xx, 1020, and 1520 are the best model for someone. 925 is thin, 920 has the sharpest screen on a normal-size device and built-in wireless charging, 1020 has best camera, 1520 has the largest screen and resolution, etc. None make the others obsolete. When a Lumia 940 with a 1080 4.5" screen comes out, it will make the model it replaces obsolete. But no such replacement phone for any of the current models exists yet.
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    09-17-2013 08:23 PM
  5. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    It's not a high-end smartphone. It's a high-end cameraphone, but it's a capable mid-range smartphone as well. However, until the 1520 is out, it IS the high-end for Windows Phone. Even then, the mid-range 820 had the same SoC as the 1020, and it was an early-2012 SoC to begin with. It's fair to question its computing power and all, but it's not obsolete.
    09-17-2013 11:01 PM
  6. iOSMicrosoftDroid's Avatar
    Obsolete is a very strong word for a product practically in infancy, regardless of number of cores in its processor. I do love what I see in the "leaked" pictures of the 1520 but at six inches, that device is too close to tablet territory for my liking. I am still hoping that it is a 5" screen!
    09-17-2013 11:14 PM
  7. montsa007's Avatar
    Just read the thread "Is the 920 obsolete now", and now this.
    What exactly is happening with people!?
    xandros9 and DalekSnare like this.
    09-18-2013 03:57 AM
  8. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    A lot of people still use Windows XP which came out over 10 years ago. It's not obsolete until next year when MS stops supporting it.
    nohra likes this.
    09-18-2013 04:15 AM
  9. Junaid96's Avatar
    And it still won't be obsolete if it continues to perform the functions that you need it to perform.
    That's not what obsolete means. Obsolete means something is no longer produced or used (straight from dictionary.com). So it doesn't matter if it still functions well. Take the original iPhone for instance. It may still function properly, but Apple do not produce or support it any longer and virtualy no one still uses one. Thus it is classed as an obsolete handset.

    That's not to say the OP has a point however. Short answer is, the 1020 is not an obsolete device because it is in an entirely different category of smartphone to the 1520. One is a phablet and one is, well, a traditional smartphone (except with a much better camera than average). Each is designed to target a different level of the market.
    09-18-2013 04:27 AM
  10. Technoloay's Avatar
    Alright, so the 1020 isn't obsolete but rather a mid range device with an exceptional camera?
    09-18-2013 04:36 AM
  11. thetroublewith's Avatar
    It's probably relatively mid-range in terms of the overall smartphone market, but it seems like Windows Phone 8 is already fast, smooth and responsive without the need for quad-core, etc - unlike Android. I also wonder how much more of a battery drain 1080p screens are going to be...
    09-18-2013 05:06 AM
  12. Great deal's Avatar
    Let this thread die - ppl r jumping down the throat of a guy who is clearly clueless
    09-18-2013 05:36 AM
  13. Kellzea's Avatar
    Alright, so the 1020 isn't obsolete but rather a mid range device with an exceptional camera?
    you are still wrong. It has a higher spec screen than the iphone5s. Ergo, it must be high end. That and the fact the camera blasts everything else out there.

    Would you drop this please? Have you not been embarrassed enough?

    Let this thread die - ppl r jumping down the throat of a guy who is clearly clueless

    Sometimes, mercilessly smashing your point into their brain pan is actually a species of kindness.
    Last edited by Dave Blake; 09-18-2013 at 06:07 AM.
    09-18-2013 05:47 AM
  14. Technoloay's Avatar
    you are still wrong. It has a higher spec screen than the iphone5s. Ergo, it must be high end. That and the fact the camera blasts everything else out there.

    Would you drop this please? Have you not been embarrassed enough?
    I apologize then. I originally started this thread because I listened to the people around here that, well all the Lumia line has outdated internals. In fact, I'm waiting to get the 1020 as an upgrade to my Lumia 620 but this certain thought was pulling me back. I guess now I'll just have to wait until the 1020 arrives in here and stop cluelessly posting threads.
    09-18-2013 06:01 AM
  15. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    Nope, it's not obsolete.
    09-18-2013 06:11 AM
  16. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Not even close. My next phone is a Verizon variant of the 1020. The 6" will be just too big. In addition, I don't like the new tile layout on the 6". There are more tiles, sure, but the large tiles are actually smaller on the 6" compared to the large tiles on the 1020/8xx/9xx phones. Same with medium and small tiles sizes. So no thank you.
    09-18-2013 06:55 AM
  17. tgr42's Avatar
    I apologize then. I originally started this thread because I listened to the people around here that, well all the Lumia line has outdated internals. In fact, I'm waiting to get the 1020 as an upgrade to my Lumia 620 but this certain thought was pulling me back. I guess now I'll just have to wait until the 1020 arrives in here and stop cluelessly posting threads.
    No need to apologize. No one can dispute that the Lumia phones don't have the latest and greatest internals. Even the $200 LG-manufactured Nexus 4 released in Nov. 2012 runs circles around the brand new 1020 in my experience, although much of that could be attributed to the OS. (Ha ha ha.) But this doesn't mean the 1020 is obsolete. The internals are good enough for most purposes and things generally run fast enough. And the camera and display are certainly top notch, which counts for a lot in my book.
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    09-18-2013 07:20 AM
  18. Jason Drum's Avatar
    Why should anyone consider the 1020 over the 1520?
    Because a 6 inch phone is ridiculous.
    berty6294 and willied like this.
    09-18-2013 07:24 AM
  19. gsquared's Avatar
    /COUGH Troll Bait /COUGH
    09-18-2013 07:30 AM
  20. Junaid96's Avatar
    Alright, so the 1020 isn't obsolete but rather a mid range device with an exceptional camera?
    Mid-range? Seriously? The 1020 is the best-specced device that the Lumia line has ever come out with.

    And don't say that it's still poorly specced compared to Android phones. WP (and iOS) is a much more optimized and efficient OS than Android. It does not require that much juice to power it up.
    09-18-2013 07:43 AM
  21. a_rob's Avatar
    QUOTE: "And hopefully they'll put an end to this idiotic 6-month release cycle. Like I said, for the average consumer the actual hardware is irrelevant. In their minds new is better. So the other side effect here is that people are buying phones that get replaced within 6 months, leaving people feeling abandoned."

    I really do think you've got this pretty wrong! Sure, if Nokia kept releasing a newer version of a single handset sure, 6 month cycle is OTT. But this isn't what Nokia is doing - Nokia has a catalogue covering price/spec points from the low end to the high end, releasing different price points with different releases. It's not like it's the iPhone where there is only really 1 device (5/5C/5S really are iterations of the same things, whereas the Lumias 520/620/720/820/920 with their upgrades to Lumia 1520/625/925/1020 etc cover a range of prices and specifications). There is no confusion...just price/spec options depending on how deep your pockets are and what your smartphone needs are.


    QUOTE: "From an actual hardware perspective, Lumia 920/925/928/1020 internals were already on the tail end of the current generation back when the 920 was released last year. Now they're clearly last gen, barely qualifying as mid-range in Android."


    Simple point to make here - WP, Android and iOS are different operating systems with different hardware requirements. It's been clearly established that what's needed for a mid- or high-range Android device isn't the equivalent to what's needed for a mid- or high-range WP device. WP runs better than Android on so-called 'mid-range' specs, and then there's the delay imposed by Qualcomm to enable support WP8 on their latest SOCs. To try to force this bogus argument shows a certain lack of understanding about what you're complaining about.
    09-18-2013 07:43 AM
  22. berty6294's Avatar
    I want a 1020 variant on Verizon. 6in is just too big.
    09-18-2013 07:44 AM
  23. ammarmalik2011's Avatar
    The new GDR3 phones with quad-core CPUs and 2GB RAM will make existing Windows Phone obsolete regardless of what people owning current phones are saying to make themselves feel better.
    09-18-2013 07:49 AM
  24. ammarmalik2011's Avatar

    And don't say that it's still poorly specced compared to Android phones. WP (and iOS) is a much more optimized and efficient OS than Android. It does not require that much juice to power it up.
    * until GDR3 comes out. then you won't need more than quad-cores to power it up. so on and so forth.
    Technoloay likes this.
    09-18-2013 07:51 AM
  25. T Moore's Avatar
    So is the Lumia 1020 obsolete now?

    NO
    09-18-2013 08:05 AM
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