10-29-2013 08:07 AM
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  1. thaddyusmaximus's Avatar
    I wanted to list the not so obvious differences.

    • Post Processing is no longer that noticeable. Before when I snapped a picture it would look sharp in the preview then would get really soft a few seconds later after the post processing was applied. Now it seems like he picture I took is almost exactly how it looks from the preview. Great improvement, this is my favorite part of the update. I can't wait for the RAW format.
    • Speed is about 3 sec from launching the app and ready to take a picture. Much improved, cut about 1 second or more. But it can be better.
    • Snapping a picture and saving is about .5 seconds faster: Minor improvement but still too slow IMHO
    • Scenes mode: Great addition
    • More timer options, 2, 5, & 10 seconds: Much needed.
    • SmartCam shortcut on the side: Great addition.
    • No Focus Light option is now in settings: Dislike
    • Lenses is in the menu: Dislike


    What's still needed:
    • HDR Mode
    • True SmartCam combined. Not just a shortcut to the app.
    • Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness controls.
    • Manual Exposure Settings for Video Recording.
    • Slow Motion Video Recording.
    • RAW Format.
    • Longer than 4 second exposure.
    • More accurate auto white balance.
    • Reviewing other pictures and not just the last one taken.


    I will update for the smart cam feature and post what changes I've seen. So far I'm not seeing any. Please add anything else I missed.


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    Last edited by thaddyusmaximus; 10-22-2013 at 06:09 PM.
    10-22-2013 01:13 PM
  2. deepu424's Avatar
    yup dislikes to no lenses and flashlight...
    10-22-2013 01:48 PM
  3. John20212's Avatar
    No Focus Light option is now in settings - that's what I will hate the most.

    Did they fix the saving of zoomed in photos, so you can save multiple zoom ins without overwriting the original 5mp pic?

    Also from the video, isn't the fact that you didn't see all the tweak options right away but need to press the small arrow a bit annoying? I am still waiting for more feedback before I just on the update.
    10-22-2013 02:53 PM
  4. thaddyusmaximus's Avatar
    No Focus Light option is now in settings - that's what I will hate the most.

    Did they fix the saving of zoomed in photos, so you can save multiple zoom ins without overwriting the original 5mp pic?

    Also from the video, isn't the fact that you didn't see all the tweak options right away but need to press the small arrow a bit annoying? I am still waiting for more feedback before I just on the update.
    I'm not sure if this is a bug or not but the reframing is no longer working for me. When I save the reframe the gallery does not update with the new frame but uploads the same previous old from to SkyDrive. Can anyone else confirm? I'm wonder if I need the latest firmware from Nokia that other 1020's got but not the US ATT.

    As for the small arrow, it's fine you can always swipe the shutter button to the left to view all the settings no matter which mode you are on.

    Edit: The reframing is now working again. A reboot seemed to have fixed it. The reframing behavior is the same as before over, the new one overwrites the old one. I found skydrive to be my workaround. Reframe when i'm connected via wifi then all my reframed pictures get uploaded to skydrive automatically.
    10-22-2013 05:46 PM
  5. John20212's Avatar
    ..................
    Edit: The reframing is now working again. A reboot seemed to have fixed it. The reframing behavior is the same as before over, the new one overwrites the old one. I found skydrive to be my workaround. Reframe when i'm connected via wifi then all my reframed pictures get uploaded to skydrive automatically.
    That is a real shame that Nokia failed to fix the reframe zoom feature, which as it stands is useless if you are out and about and don't have unlimited data.
    Same goes for the smart cam (now part of nokia camera), I just hate that one of the major deficiencies has not been fixed in this major update.
    I don't have unlimited data, so skydrive is not an option, and after I get back home I just can't be bothered to go over all the pics when I am near wifi. I don't get why the hell you just can't save the reframed pro cam and smart cam photos to the camera roll without overwriting the original.
    10-22-2013 06:51 PM
  6. tian.s's Avatar
    Not sure whether this is new, so correct me if i'm wrong, but seems like they also integrated the video trimmer app's functionality. After taking a video you can trim it just like in the dedicated app.
    10-22-2013 07:05 PM
  7. PB_H's Avatar
    A work around ( it's convoluted but it works) with reframing or reframe with zoom is after you've reframed it, and saved it to camera roll edit
    that in Nokia Creative Studio choose Original and edit with adjust and just move the bar a mm then move back to it's original spot
    -unless you're like me I want to adjust the Color Balance- then save and it goes to the Saved Pictures folder.
    You'll still have the framed in Camera Roll but if you open in Nokia Pro Cam you can undo reframe and set to original and then save,
    and the original will be in Camera Roll and the new edited version is in Saved Pictures.

    The framing doesn't permanently overwrite the original you can always go back to the original if you open (view it) in Nokia Pro Cam.
    Last edited by PB_H; 10-22-2013 at 08:03 PM.
    10-22-2013 07:39 PM
  8. John20212's Avatar
    A work around ( it's convoluted but it works) with reframing or reframe with zoom is after you've reframed it, and saved it to camera roll edit
    that in Nokia Creative Studio choose Original and edit with adjust and just move the bar a mm then move back to it's original spot
    -unless you're like me I want to adjust the Color Balance- then save and it goes to the Saved Pictures folder.
    You'll still have the framed in Camera Roll but if you open in Nokia Pro Cam you can undo reframe and set to original and then save,
    and the original will be in Camera Roll and the new edited version is in Saved Pictures.

    The framing doesn't permanently overwrite the original you can always go back to the original if you open (view it) in Nokia Pro Cam.

    Yeah, there are ways around it, but the point is that such a simple thing should have been in the Nokia camera applications from the start, and the fact that they have still not fixed it in this new release is absolutely unacceptable.
    10-22-2013 08:39 PM
  9. shoulderbutton's Avatar
    A few observations

    - White balance seems to be better at actually getting white instead of being a bit yellow
    - As stated earlier start up seems a bit faster
    - Saving as 5 megapixel only seems to only take 3 seconds shot to shot vs 5+ 34 taking about 4 seconds.
    - Not sure if this was the case before but when I zoom with a 5 megapixel, I can't re-frame and zoom back out. I can zoom in further just not out.

    The 5 megapixel overall quality with the boost in shot to shot might be the way to go for me
    10-22-2013 08:44 PM
  10. PB_H's Avatar
    Yeah, there are ways around it, but the point is that such a simple thing should have been in the Nokia camera applications from the start, and the fact that they have still not fixed it in this new release is absolutely unacceptable.
    Yes I agree that there should be both versions the original in Camera Roll and the reframed in saved,
    but if I'm using the edited/reframed photo for Instascam or facefoot or whatever, I share it.
    If I want to send the original I just go back to Camera roll open it in Pro Cam and reframe to original and then share. 10 seconds instead of 2...
    The original is never overwritten you don't use data.
    Last edited by PB_H; 10-22-2013 at 10:04 PM.
    10-22-2013 09:10 PM
  11. rcballa12's Avatar
    Reframing is definitely broken for me. Makes the Nokia Camera app exit upon "save" (it doesn't save anything).

    Lumia 1020
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    10-23-2013 06:54 AM
  12. thaddyusmaximus's Avatar
    Reframing is definitely broken for me. Makes the Nokia Camera app exit upon "save" (it doesn't save anything).

    Lumia 1020
    A soft reboot fixed mine. Reboot, take picture, exit app, Gallery, open new pic with nokia cam, reframe and save.
    10-23-2013 11:26 AM
  13. Arsenic17's Avatar
    Yes for me reframing no longer works. It doesn't just not save the image, it is actually crashing the entire app when you save. Soft reset doesn't work. It is spotty though as sometimes it doesn't crash, but mostly it does, about 90% of the time. FIX THIS BS NOKIA our 1020s are useless without that feature. Better be soon

    Edit: The only other person on the earth I know IRL that has a 1020 says after the update she didn't experience this issue at all.
    10-23-2013 05:20 PM
  14. immyperez's Avatar
    It works fine for me (1020). No issues whatsoever. My only annoyance is every time I reframe and save...it saves every version that end up clogging my SkyDrive even when I'm not connected to wi-fi! That means it must be storing each reframe I save that aren't even visible to me through the camera roll! Now that's just STUPID!
    10-23-2013 05:38 PM
  15. Arsenic17's Avatar
    It works fine for me (1020). No issues whatsoever. My only annoyance is every time I reframe and save...it saves every version that end up clogging my SkyDrive even when I'm not connected to wi-fi! That means it must be storing each reframe I save that aren't even visible to me through the camera roll! Now that's just STUPID!
    I think that is the issue with having Skydrive upload on. It stores them in temp store (other storage) briefly and then upload. sometimes the remnants can get left behind. but anyways, yeah it is storing them but only temporarily. As soon as the upload is done i am guessing they are gone?
    10-23-2013 08:47 PM
  16. Chazn's Avatar
    Have they corrected some of the video quality problems listed in the DxoMark review?

    Really bummed that this phone's video quality is behind alot of the 2013 smartphones.
    10-23-2013 08:52 PM
  17. Phoquetopus's Avatar
    I don't believe any of the post-processing has been corrected. The app just doesn't do it in front of you when you view your recently taken photo anymore. If we were able to compare pre and post update photos under identical conditions, I doubt we'd see a huge difference. I'm still seeing a lot of softening/warming up of photos.
    10-24-2013 06:43 AM
  18. TruPlaya187's Avatar
    Hi! On my part since I have install Camera Pro I see a major improvement!!! I've rested a photo from the same place at home with the same lighting and I see it clearly. Before the update, I had to go in each photo and use Nokia Creative Studio to put more clarity and play with the vibrance and brightness.... Not anymore!!!
    10-24-2013 06:46 AM
  19. lantern20's Avatar
    One problem I've experienced with the update is a freeze up when saving an image. I shot the picture and it said saving, but never went back to the camera. I had to close the camera app and re-open it. It only happened to me once (Tuesday evening) but then it happened to my wife last night. Only happened once to each of us though.
    10-24-2013 06:50 AM
  20. Bahamen's Avatar
    Have they corrected some of the video quality problems listed in the DxoMark review?

    Really bummed that this phone's video quality is behind alot of the 2013 smartphones.
    Which video quality problems? Walking movements not completely stabilized by OIS?
    10-24-2013 06:58 AM
  21. bikertomk's Avatar
    Ditto on the reframe feature crashing. After the camera update, when I reframe and attempt to save, it shows the scrolling dots for a few seconds and then terminates abnormally w/o saving anything. Tried power off/on and 2-button reboot and it didn't resolve the problem.
    10-24-2013 11:37 AM
  22. elyod's Avatar
    If this helps, I have a 920 and the Nokia camera was crashing during reframing also. I thought that you might want to know that it isn't necessarily because of the large picture size of the 1020, I soft reset and it didn't fix it so I reinstalled it and it seems to be fixed.
    10-24-2013 12:31 PM
  23. TheJoester09's Avatar
    I don't believe any of the post-processing has been corrected. The app just doesn't do it in front of you when you view your recently taken photo anymore. If we were able to compare pre and post update photos under identical conditions, I doubt we'd see a huge difference. I'm still seeing a lot of softening/warming up of photos.
    I agree with this. If you have the "Photo review" option turned on so that it goes straight to the photo that you've just taken instead of the camera viewer, you'll still see your pictures go from sharp with natural colors to fuzzy and green-tinted. I see literally no different from Pro Cam to Nokia Camera. Hopefully Bittersweet Shimmer/Black (whatever they're calling it these days) will truly fix this. RAW support will be great too, assuming it comes to the 9xx series (I'm not cool enough for a 1020 ).
    10-24-2013 12:49 PM
  24. harisyousaf86's Avatar
    Is there any hope on nokia camera for 520 on upcoming nokia black update?
    10-24-2013 01:17 PM
  25. John20212's Avatar
    Is there any hope on nokia camera for 520 on upcoming nokia black update?
    I wouldn't count on it.
    10-24-2013 04:50 PM
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