12-11-2013 01:39 PM
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  1. the4ork's Avatar
    So i've had an iPhone ever since the first xmas they came out. 2007? the iphone "2g"
    and i've had them all except the 3gs/4s. the 4 was the only real leaps in bounds as far as upgrades go. when i went from 4 to 5.... what a disappointment. waste of $

    I have my first kid due in January, and with the poor performance of the iPhone camera, and complete lack of upgrade from 4-5s it was finally time to ditch the iPhone (dont even get me started on iTunes, as a windows user)

    so, here I am.

    so far I am pleased, the home screen is pretty cluttered and im slowly getting used to it after a days use. I miss having the docked icons but hopefully i'll forget they ever existed. some of the apps like facebook are much less refined on windows in my opinion so far, which im sure will hopefully get better over time like they have on iOS.

    down to some other points.

    the camera is great, but sometimes the pics come out with a yellow tint, regardless of settings... how do i fix this? and should i be using the nokia cam app or something else?

    is there a jailbreak/unlock? and if so what are the benefits?

    anything else i should know?
    12-01-2013 02:15 AM
  2. thedarknight68's Avatar
    So i've had an iPhone ever since the first xmas they came out. 2007? the iphone "2g"
    and i've had them all except the 3gs/4s. the 4 was the only real leaps in bounds as far as upgrades go. when i went from 4 to 5.... what a disappointment. waste of $

    I have my first kid due in January, and with the poor performance of the iPhone camera, and complete lack of upgrade from 4-5s it was finally time to ditch the iPhone (dont even get me started on iTunes, as a windows user)

    so, here I am.

    so far I am pleased, the home screen is pretty cluttered and im slowly getting used to it after a days use. I miss having the docked icons but hopefully i'll forget they ever existed. some of the apps like facebook are much less refined on windows in my opinion so far, which im sure will hopefully get better over time like they have on iOS.

    down to some other points.

    the camera is great, but sometimes the pics come out with a yellow tint, regardless of settings... how do i fix this? and should i be using the nokia cam app or something else?

    is there a jailbreak/unlock? and if so what are the benefits?

    anything else i should know?
    Good for you,you will get used to wimdowsphone (y) .dont know about the camera thingy coz I don't use it much.you can unlock your phone by registering as a developer,find details by googling it,or on the Microsoft website.you will have to download SDK for that.disadvantages are that it will void your warranty,advantages are that you ca develope apps and test them on your phone.but you can't use cracked games or hacks like apk on android as far as I know,also don't try it because it is defined as piracy.you will also find less games and apps as compared to the other 2 OS s but we are getting apps/games regularly now. because we have started to grow.this is a review of wp8 using my experience on it,I may be wrong in some areas.for the record I own a nl620 gdr3 developer preview.good luck!!! ;) :)
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    12-01-2013 02:26 AM
  3. amitnahar's Avatar
    Welcome aboard...
    12-01-2013 02:37 AM
  4. the4ork's Avatar
    i forgot to mention, i traded my i5 for this phone.

    i just did a hard reset because it would not let me change the 'Microsoft account'

    and now i have these spinning gears for like 15 minutes... after doing some googling... looks like i might be f*ked.... been trying to do all the button holding/releasing combos. can get the lightning bolt /w gear but other than that it just locks up every time and wont boot.

    awesome.
    12-01-2013 02:54 AM
  5. Zerveone's Avatar
    Hey,
    Congratulations on Your new 1020 :). Did You update your phone and camera apps as well? You can try using ProShot (app) for Your pictures. It has a lot of settings and supports up to 12 mpx resolution on 1020.
    If You want to stick with 34+5 mpx version of Nokia Camera and changing WB doesn't help, only viable option is post processing right now. Nokia announced some changes in upcoming update so it's worth waiting for.
    12-01-2013 03:00 AM
  6. the4ork's Avatar
    got frustrated and left the gears turning while the phone plugged into to usb on my pc.

    after about an hour i noticed it randomly started up. win!
    12-01-2013 03:48 AM
  7. tonbonz's Avatar
    got frustrated and left the gears turning while the phone plugged into to usb on my pc.

    after about an hour i noticed it randomly started up. win!
    There's a fix for the spinning gears issue using Nokia Care Suite if it should happen again. Just search the WPCentral site or forums. As far as jail breaking on WP8 the Samsung Ativ's are the only fully unlocked phones so far. Registering and developer unlocking using the SDK limits the type of apps and the number you can sideload. You can't side load apps downloaded from the store and depending on the type of developer account the numbers range from 3 to 10 apps side loaded and installed. For example if your dev account only allows 3 you can only have 3 side loaded apps installed at once or you have to delete one to side load another. I suggest checking the xda wp8 forums and remember Google is your friend. :-) Welcome aboard!!!
    12-01-2013 04:22 AM
  8. darthhen's Avatar
    the4ork,

    Regarding the yellowish looking picture, try turning off the flash. It's a known issue with this phone. The picture quality is great but it does have a yellowish image right out of the box. You would think Nokia would've gotten the out of the box settings correct, but oh well.

    Personally, I turn off the flash most of the time. And if that doesn't work, play with the white balance settings. After a week or so of figuring out the behavior of this phone, I can get good pictures.

    There's no jailbreak equivalent for the 1020, AFAIK.

    As other posters has mentioned, update the apps to the latest version in the Store.

    Good luck.
    12-01-2013 10:04 AM
  9. dryspuri's Avatar
    Yeah, surpisingly, windows phone is more closed than either 2 os, its not that popular, so no developer want to waste there time in tinkering with the phone, I think microsoft thinks same way. Only company working on the phone and os is nokia. I am very happy with my lumia 1020, I also had yellow tint, I reset the phone and now pictures are clear.

    My only gripe is smart dial and quality apps. and I also miss notification centre but nobody can beat 1020 camera. thats for sure!""!! I make myself happy with that fact!!
    12-01-2013 11:01 AM
  10. etad putta's Avatar
    i forgot to mention, i traded my i5 for this phone.

    i just did a hard reset because it would not let me change the 'Microsoft account'

    and now i have these spinning gears for like 15 minutes... after doing some googling... looks like i might be f*ked.... been trying to do all the button holding/releasing combos. can get the lightning bolt /w gear but other than that it just locks up every time and wont boot.

    awesome.
    Thought this was a troll thread until this post. Welcome to the "halfway- there" world of windows phones. Hope things get better for you.
    12-01-2013 11:01 PM
  11. EpicIncognitO's Avatar
    Welcome to Windows Phone. I would say you may face a few difficulties at the start but believe me once you get the hang of it you will ignore the few hitches and glitches. I would say this is the most personal phone. And yes the smoothest interface.
    halcyonboy likes this.
    12-02-2013 12:40 AM
  12. Loco5150's Avatar
    some of the apps like facebook are much less refined on windows in my opinion so far
    Hi and welcome. The FB experience has not been good here at WP, and Ive have been complaining about the fact that a big company like MS cant do a decent app for it. Now I have to say, that the latest Facebook Beta app is actually a big step to the right direction. The load times are decent and whats unbeliavable that notifications actually work!?! Its still missing some features like accepting group invite and whatnot, but in general its now much better and definitely a step to the right direction.

    You cant find the beta from the store using a search, but for example you find the link from the WPCentral news.

    Really love that if you have a mid-size (or big) tile pinned, and the notifications actually come in on time, you can directly see the latest message or activity in the tile without opening the app. Very usefull.
    12-02-2013 12:43 AM
  13. HaibaneReki's Avatar
    Hi and welcome the4ork, there's great rejoice in the WPforums everytime an iBeliever converts to the right OS ;)

    this thread might be of use to You Wp8 newbie tips
    12-02-2013 01:35 AM
  14. Del Rei's Avatar
    I changed my iPhone 4S to the Lumia 1020.

    But, in fact... Not that satisfied yet. Trying to know better this new OS.

    The pictures, they are better than iOS, but it can get much better. Rumor has it the problem is the Amber update, and with Black, it will get better.
    The processing JPG of WP makes the poor quality.
    That was my biggest disappointment on Lumia 1020, because I converted to WP because of the camera.

    Some people say that you can get the yellow/green issue solved by WB setup. Sure not. The problem is that the phone changes the color of image after saving. No matter what setup you use. It will be changed. And some focus lost.
    See this topic below about pictures:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...y-samples.html

    And, some others "problems" I've been experiencing in my conversion from iOS to WP:

    1) Can't send videos by email in full resolution. The phone automatically compress it... To a terrible resolution. The compression on iOS was optional and simply great!
    2) Can't send videos/MP3 from library to Whatsapp or other applications (Facebook, etc). This really sucks. Hope it get fixed soon.
    3) Can't send full resolution images by email... Come on!!
    4) There is no way to add custom keyboards shortcuts (typing "omg" and it get replaced by "oh my god"). It really makes difference when typing.
    5) There is no control center (to fast access display brightness and other features from configuration).
    JonnieLasVegas and ramanbnv like this.
    12-02-2013 12:09 PM
  15. worldspy99's Avatar
    After 4 weeks of using my Lumia 521, I had a hard time last night navigating my old Samsung on Android. Just time will make you familiar with the OS. I don't miss my iPad as well, I do a lot more content consumption on the Lumia - thank you Phonly!
    12-02-2013 12:13 PM
  16. txkimmers's Avatar
    I changed my iPhone 4S to the Lumia 1020.

    4) There is no way to add custom keyboards shortcuts (typing "omg" and it get replaced by "oh my god"). It really makes difference when typing.
    If what you are saying is you can't add personalized phrases or words to the predictive text database, you can. Type the word/phrase you want to add in a text box in mail or sms, long press it to select the whole string and right below it should appear the string with a "+" sign. Select that to add the string and it will appear for you next time you start to type it.
    Last edited by txkimmers; 12-02-2013 at 01:10 PM.
    12-02-2013 12:26 PM
  17. metalchick719's Avatar
    Welcome, the4ork. WP8 rocks! I went from an iPhone 4 (my only iPhone) back to Nokia with the Lumia 810 last November, then went to an unlocked 920 in May. It's just so much better in every way. You'll absolutely love taking pictures of your new baby with the 1020's camera. Again, I have a 920, not a 1020, but from what I've seen of WP8, the Nokia Lumia line take excellent photos, and that goes even for the 521, which my best friend has. Enjoy your phone and the platform!
    12-02-2013 12:44 PM
  18. markyjns's Avatar
    Like you i was with iPhone since 2007 and the 4 to 5 upgrade was extremely lacking. I love WP8 now, the camera on the 1020 is simply stunning but it does behave differently to the iOS camera and that takes a slight learning curve (I'm not just talking about the manual controls either) you will learn in time for the arrival of your baby exactly how to get the best from it and believe me it leaves the iOS camera for dust
    12-02-2013 12:57 PM
  19. wapoz's Avatar
    Welcome! I only managed 3 years of iOS before switching lol.
    12-02-2013 01:00 PM
  20. taymur's Avatar
    welcome, you made the right choice, this is the next ship to be on.

    About the camera issue, yes its there, and yes it has been solved, but me being an update freak. i don't really remember which update i made that got me to fix it, its either the Nokia Procam (which IMO the best camera app ever), or its GDR3, which you might be getting soon, or you can search for the way to download it, because its very easy and 0% risk.
    12-02-2013 11:56 PM
  21. Del Rei's Avatar
    If what you are saying is you can't add personalized phrases or words to the predictive text database, you can. Type the word/phrase you want to add in a text box in mail or sms, long press it to select the whole string and right below it should appear the string with a "+" sign. Select that to add the string and it will appear for you next time you start to type it.
    Hum... No, I'm not trying to add new words to the database. I'm trying to add shortcuts. Example: in IOS I made the word "e1" the shortcut for my email. Everytime I wrote "e1", it was changed automatically to "del_rj@live.com". Save a lot of time.

    I didn't figure out how to do that on WP.
    12-03-2013 01:58 AM
  22. HaibaneReki's Avatar
    Hum... No, I'm not trying to add new words to the database. I'm trying to add shortcuts. Example: in IOS I made the word "e1" the shortcut for my email. Everytime I wrote "e1", it was changed automatically to "del_rj@live.com". Save a lot of time.

    I didn't figure out how to do that on WP.
    You're right, that's one thing I miss from my old symbian times (yes, they had it first) ;)
    12-04-2013 01:27 AM
  23. the4ork's Avatar
    OP HERE!

    how do i go back/forward in internet explorer? i can use the permanent back button to go to previous pages, but how do i go back forward again. this is yet another unrefined goof-up on microsoft and all these unrefinements are starting to add up. I feel like im using a beta-test phone...

    im just SO utterly dissapointed with my windows phone. I was so fed up with iOS7 I figured the android/windows market was at least on par, or only slightly sub par with iOS. Good god, I feel like a 5 year step back. However, i did realize the camera was fixed after the grinding gears/reset fiasco.

    NEW THINGS TO RANT ABOUT

    now youtube.... ive tried various youtube apps with no avail.... I cant seem to find one that will let you use the status bar to fast forward or rewind back to the spot i want to be. seems like theirs a option to speed forward or back but its completely useless as the chances of it going to the spot i want are none.
    Is there a remedy for this? again, feels all very beta...

    other apps i use alot are pintrest, which feels slower than just using IE on the website, that app is almost worthless, and then there is facebook. which feels like the iphone app from back in the iPhone 2g days...

    then there are maps apps. I was hoping there would be microsofts version of apple maps / google maps... Like i could search burgers, and the places that sell burgers would pop up, with a star rating from whatever microsoft owned app, like say urbanspoon (dont know if they are affiliated with MS in any way, just a reference) so that all the names of burger places pop up, with their urban spoon star rating, and when you click on one you get all the info, directions options, and reviews. I LOVED this feature in iOS, and it is much missed :(


    ranting aside, and suggestions?
    gb33 likes this.
    12-05-2013 04:17 PM
  24. matthoms's Avatar
    The only thing that I can really answer is the YouTube part. Google isn't allowing Microsoft to use YouTube apps. This has been an ongoing problem. The two companies don't get along, that's why the YouTube apps don't work, Google won't allow them to.

    As for the burger searching, local scout does a pretty good job of that. If you turn on your location settings, click the search button, then look at the bottom of the screen and press the buildings icon, it will bring up places around you. Then if you want to narrow your search, there are other options you can access to narrow is to specific things you're looking for. Then, you can see what people rate them as, get the directions, phone number, hours, etc. It's very helpful and fast.

    As for the app basis on WP, it's growing. That's about all I can say for it. Developers are trying to work as fast as they can, but they have lives too if they are 3rd party. The Facebook app is made my Microsoft so they are always working on it. If you get the beta app you'll like it much better than the regular one. By much better, I mean better than the Microsoft regular Facebook app. iOS has a better Facebook app, but Microsoft is quickly trying to work out the kinks to make it better and up to speed with the iOS and Android versions. Keep in mind with all of this, WP has only been around since 2010. It's still rather new, and switching from an updated UI (iOS) to a newer UI (WP) there are going to be draw backs. However, there are many unique features in WP that iOS doesn't offer, particularly your camera. I love my 1020. I didn't switch like you did, but my girlfriend has an iPhone 4 and all my friends have the 5 or 5s. There are many times where they have asked me to take the pictures or videos because their camera can't cut it. They always ask me to look for directions because Bing maps counts in live traffic reports, not sure about Nokia Drive, but it still is just as good. If I'd suggest anything, just be patient, play around with your phone, and get used to it. If you give it a chance, I promise you'll like it. There are many iPhone users switching for the same reason as you that are going through what you are. They just give it time and play around with the new change. Everyone UI has it's unique things about it, it's more up to you to find out which one if going to benefit you more. In my opinion, with your new child on the way, I'd have to say that Windows Phone will be your safest bet for the camera. Just keep in mind, you can't get really close with the camera. 6 inches is about the closest you can get, just remember that you can zoom in after the picture is taken and crop out the other parts. This link will give you an amazing tutorial about your camera. This is how I learned to use mine. You'll appreciate it even more once you familiarize yourself with it. Nokia Photo Masters - Nokia - USA

    Sorry for the long post. Let me know if this helps at all. I'm more than willing to answer questions and be realistic about your switch and whether WP or iPhone is better for you.
    12-05-2013 06:25 PM
  25. HaibaneReki's Avatar
    OP HERE!

    how do i go back/forward in internet explorer? i can use the permanent back button to go to previous pages, but how do i go back forward again. this is yet another unrefined goof-up on microsoft and all these unrefinements are starting to add up. I feel like im using a beta-test phone...

    im just SO utterly dissapointed with my windows phone. You're just disappointed it handles differently, You'll get used to it I was so fed up with iOS7 I figured the android/windows market was at least on par, or only slightly sub par with iOS. Good god, I feel like a 5 year step back. (actually it's true, WP8 is only a year old) However, i did realize the camera was fixed after the grinding gears/reset fiasco.

    NEW THINGS TO RANT ABOUT

    now youtube.... ive tried various youtube apps with no avail.... I cant seem to find one that will let you use the status bar to fast forward or rewind back to the spot i want to be. seems like theirs a option to speed forward or back but its completely useless as the chances of it going to the spot i want are none.
    Is there a remedy for this? again, feels all very beta... try MyTube - that scrolls by swiping the whole screen left and right

    other apps i use alot are pintrest, which feels slower than just using IE on the website, that app is almost worthless, and then there is facebook. which feels like the iphone app from back in the iPhone 2g days... I use the touch.facebook.com, I find it perfectly ok - for the most part I use the integrated functions in WP8 itself

    then there are maps apps. I was hoping there would be microsofts version of apple maps / google maps... Like i could search burgers, and the places that sell burgers would pop up, with a star rating from whatever microsoft owned app, like say urbanspoon (dont know if they are affiliated with MS in any way, just a reference) so that all the names of burger places pop up, with their urban spoon star rating, and when you click on one you get all the info, directions options, and reviews. I LOVED this feature in iOS, and it is much missed :( what country? Sure in some countries there's less POIs then in others, but for the most part the Scout searches just fine. And HERE maps are available for all brands - what's wrong with them?

    ranting aside, and suggestions?
    I suggest You go through this thread before ranting any further ;) Research first, rant later... Gosh, newbies... ;)
    12-06-2013 08:44 AM
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