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  1. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Hello all,

    I've been a lurker on here for too long and it is now time for me to contribute!

    A little bit about me, I am hugely impressed with the camera on the Lumia 1020, and also Windows Phone 8. I upgraded from a HTC Titan which was no slouch either, but the Nokia is light years ahead!

    I am new to mobile photography of this magnitude (I think most people are!) and recently jumped on the UrbEx wagon and the 1020 is perfect. A sample to show how I am doing with a little practice with just the camera grip;



    More can be found here; Flickr: Crasstoe's Photostream

    With introductions out the way, now on to topic. I have been looking for ways to add reliable telephoto and macro abilities to the 1020 with minimum modification whilst keeping it simple. I want it to look good and not like some sort of homebrew rig that could break any minute, or that require setting up EVERY time I want to use it. I stumbled on Beastgrip, and also Snapzoom, both kickstarter projects that I unfortunately missed out on, however they are both due for online sales to start this year (Feb-March), and I have hit a roadblock, which is better?!

    The beast grip is by far the most attractive with multiple accessories mounts and offers a 37mm attachment, which with DOF adapters can accomodate Prime lenses.

    Beastgrip universal lens adapter and rig system for camera phoneshomeUniversal, Adjustable, Modular... Works with IOS, Android, Windows and BlackBerry phones

    The Snapzoom takes a simpler approach but suffers as a result, but allows you to clamp any optics, scopes, telescopes (prime lenses?) and simply clamp or unclamp your phone. This means ANY level of zoom is possible, but is it better?

    Snapzoom

    Both are around the same price delivered.

    So what do you think?

    Chris
    Last edited by Crasstoe; 01-03-2014 at 05:24 PM.
    01-03-2014 05:46 AM
  2. TruPlaya187's Avatar
    Really nice pic!!!!
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    01-03-2014 10:27 AM
  3. SinisterJunkie's Avatar
    First off, nice photo!

    Now I haven't seen either of those before and both look like nice options. That said the Beastgrip really has me wanting to hit the pre-order. Love the adjustability and all the standard attachment points.
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    01-03-2014 10:42 AM
  4. Crasstoe's Avatar
    The Beastgrip definitely has upgrade potential, and once it is setup all you need to do is snap the phone in, since all the positioning is done before you need to use it... A question is are there any "decent" 35mm lenses out there?! Or how much would it cost to actually get a DOF adapter an Prime lens for it?

    If you want simple zoom and the ability to take photos through a telescope (aka digiscoping) then the Snapzoom wins hands down. Damn this is hard!
    01-03-2014 10:47 AM
  5. Sam Baker's Avatar
    How would lens adapters work? The Beastgrip accepts 37mm lens mounts. So if I had a lens which has a mount of 50 something mm then I could get an adapter, right? The only risk I run is a vignette effect I think
    01-05-2014 05:35 AM
  6. Crasstoe's Avatar
    M37 to xx adapter (sometimes called a step up ring) in theory would work, however a DOF adapter gives better results but aren't cheap!

    I plan on going for a M37 to 52mm adapter and a lens straight on. If the vignette is horrendous then a DOF could be a investment, or just use the digital zoom on the 1020 to remove.

    Without the DOF adapter theoretically you will lose infinity focus but tbh i have never used it! You should be able to get close using focus on the lens and the 1020 in tandem.

    I really just like the idea of being able to have a play with lenses and see what effects it gets. If it works with a cheap lens then i will look at investing in something more expensive.

    TBH i think i am sold on the Beastgrip...

    --EDIT--

    Here is a video showing before and after with a DOF adapter. Seeing as the 1020 has a good shallow DOF anyway I don't think it will be strictly needed, and results should be better than this chaps camcorder without, but with the adapter = WOW!



    And here is a link to the adapter he is using, and at $179 for use with a 37mm mount and Canon EOS lenses it isn't as expensive as I was thinking!

    http://www.vid-atlantic.com/products...-dv-hd-cameras
    Last edited by Crasstoe; 01-05-2014 at 06:18 AM.
    01-05-2014 05:50 AM
  7. Sam Baker's Avatar
    So what exactly does this DOF adapter do? It sits in between the 1020 and your lens of choice, and you would focus manually by turning the lens and not on the 1020?
    01-05-2014 09:42 AM
  8. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Think of it like a projector screen. The SLR lens projects its image onto the screen, and then you focus your camera (1020) to the screen to record or snap whatever is on that screen.
    01-05-2014 12:20 PM
  9. Ixia's Avatar
    Nice photos. Liking Mr. Potato Head ;-) . Nothing useful to add, but thanks for those links, hadn't realised either product existed.
    Crasstoe likes this.
    01-06-2014 04:24 AM
  10. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Bitten the bullet and ordered a Beastgrip... I'll let you know how I get on!
    01-08-2014 03:07 PM
  11. AetherElement's Avatar
    I already own a beastgrip. still figuring on how to assemble the whole dof adapter.
    01-10-2014 01:20 AM
  12. Crasstoe's Avatar
    I already own a beastgrip. still figuring on how to assemble the whole dof adapter.
    Have you tried without the DOF adapter at all? I am planning on attaching a legacy lens directly to the grip itself, specifically a Carl Zeiss Jena 50mm F2.8 Tessar. Looking forward to seeing how it comes out!
    01-10-2014 07:08 AM
  13. AetherElement's Avatar
    yeap tried without the dof adapter. currently mounted a wide angle lens for the mean time. I really wanted to try and mount my helios 44-2 58mm f2 but i dun hv the m42 reverse ring adapter now. gonna get one tomorrow and give it a try. i do like the grip but whn i do wanna get my speedlight to work under slave mode i need to remove the 37mm threading that's is assembled with the beastgrip and i can't mount any lenses by doing so.
    01-10-2014 09:04 AM
  14. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Got an M37 - 42 adapter on the way, cost $2 on eBay!

    How is the picture without the DOF adapter? Weighing up if it is needed for what I want to achieve... any chance of some pics?
    01-10-2014 09:12 AM
  15. Sam Baker's Avatar
    My beastgrip arrived

    (pics here: http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...ml#post2304776)

    If I wanted to use my canon lenses (I believe they're fd mount), how would I get them on to the beastgrip? the only lenses I have aren't thread-based, they seem more like in and twist, do such adapters exist?
    01-17-2014 04:08 PM
  16. Crasstoe's Avatar
    My beastgrip arrived

    (pics here: http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...ml#post2304776)

    If I wanted to use my canon lenses (I believe they're fd mount), how would I get them on to the beastgrip? the only lenses I have aren't thread-based, they seem more like in and twist, do such adapters exist?
    You can get a mount adapter, best to try some google fu. Try in either 37mm or 52mm. You may need to use macro lenses in between to get the image into focus depending on your lens.
    learntopop likes this.
    01-17-2014 05:31 PM
  17. Sam Baker's Avatar
    Was googling last night and this morning, can't seem to find anything. Have you managed to find anything?
    01-18-2014 03:12 AM
  18. Crasstoe's Avatar
    I can find screw to canon but not canon to screw...

    I shall keep searching for you. Plenty for attaching legacy primes, which you can pick up cheap, I got my CSJ Tessar 50mm for 30!
    01-19-2014 03:18 PM
  19. Wesleyshark's Avatar
    I made the jump into Beastgrip and I'm loving it so far!

    img_4488.jpg

    img_4496.jpg

    If you're interested in my thoughts/ongoing review of it, I've got a thread going HERE on wpc.
    05-05-2014 07:56 PM

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