03-27-2014 12:26 PM
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  1. amrut_m's Avatar
    Following I have attached a image file of the upcoming Oppo Find 7,
    Said to be a 50mp Camera,
    All the EXIF info are intact,

    Photo Enthusiasts Kindly judge the image.
    Can it come up better than the Nokia's Pureview's? can this be a better camera phone than the 1020?
    I dont want Biased answers as we are on 1020's forum.

    As far as i see is that the photo gets blury and i cant read the text's as i could read in 1020.
    but then again the way it was shot , and i dont have a 1020's image compa

    https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=adf07...8FD!4312&sff=1
    Ixia likes this.
    03-03-2014 10:40 AM
  2. Senad Klepic's Avatar
    If this is the final product quality i am not impressed at all. When i zoom the "magic" (if i can say so) goes away.
    03-03-2014 11:24 AM
  3. vlad0's Avatar
    Sensor size and optics ? If the sensor is the same size as the 1020 or even the 808 we might have something interesting... if not.. it will be messy
    03-03-2014 11:35 AM
  4. TheJoester09's Avatar
    The 1020 is not just about having 41mp. As stated above, the sensor size is just as important, as is the OIS. What really makes the 1020 (and the 808, for that matter) great is the oversampling algorithms that allow for the lossless zoom and reframing. Megapixels is just one of the many things that makes for a great camera.
    03-03-2014 11:39 AM
  5. amrut_m's Avatar
    Right said mate's

    The thing with Nokia is they did not start making and developing camera's now,
    Its been Decades that NOKIA know, what they do,what they achieve,the knowledge,the time spent in the camera tech.
    Achieving higher pixel count is easy but mastering it will be the best challenge,
    the megapixel war was already ended by the 808.
    but now,their will be great innovations and sure that the next pureview will shock us.
    03-03-2014 12:39 PM
  6. Ordeith's Avatar
    It's not just the number of megapixels, its how you use them.
    03-03-2014 12:41 PM
  7. Live2Deliver's Avatar
    Carl Zeiss lens? Nope
    03-04-2014 01:44 AM
  8. Crasstoe's Avatar
    Most likely heavily "shopped", and Oppo hardly have a good track record of actually releasing a device that is what they say it is!
    03-04-2014 08:46 AM
  9. GPendolino's Avatar
    Impossible to judge seeing as the web will only display a JPG.

    If it in fact produces RAW files and I could download that to look at it we'd have a true way to judge it.
    alllies likes this.
    03-05-2014 11:07 PM
  10. chmun77's Avatar
    Oppo gundam style!!
    Live2Deliver likes this.
    03-06-2014 02:59 AM
  11. marklola's Avatar
    actually the camers sensor is small and it is only I think 8mp or was it 13 mp...it upscaled pics to 50mp

    that why the sample pics look crap lol
    03-26-2014 10:44 AM
  12. Marlon Bu's Avatar
    Oppo Find 7 has a 13 MP Camera. Maybe someone can correct the title?
    03-26-2014 01:54 PM
  13. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    Why the Oppo Find 7′s Super Zoom mode is so impressive | Pocketnow

    All explained.
    In essence, the Find 7′s camera fires 10 shots in rapid succession, thanks to the prowess of its Pure Image 2.0 image processor. It gathers the data from those consecutive shots, intelligently picks the best four, and combines the data from them to create the final image at a staggering resolution of 8,160 by 6,120 pixels. Essentially, it uses the additional captures to fill in the blanks, so to speak, and cram additional detail into the image.
    aitt likes this.
    03-26-2014 02:32 PM
  14. Crasstoe's Avatar
    So with that in mind, a little shake from the hands = massive but shockingly noisey pictures, and an age to take "one" photo?
    03-26-2014 03:41 PM
  15. TheJoester09's Avatar
    Maybe Nokia can utilize this method to make a 160MP photo! :P
    aitt likes this.
    03-26-2014 03:54 PM
  16. aitt's Avatar
    good reading. I think people know its hard to compete with Nokia quality when it comes to cameras. Its good because its creating ways to be innovative in how pics are processed with smaller sensors.
    03-26-2014 04:07 PM
  17. Live2Deliver's Avatar
    imo what oppo find 7 have do not have a practical use. who shoots a 50mp picture daily?
    it can instead seen as a technology demonstrator. I think no one can deny that what oppo did here is a definition of innovating technology.

    We can expect a new age of competition.
    03-27-2014 04:30 AM
  18. aitt's Avatar
    imo what oppo find 7 have do not have a practical use. who shoots a 50mp picture daily?
    .
    one could say the same about the 1020
    03-27-2014 05:50 AM
  19. amrut_m's Avatar
    one could say the same about the 1020
    but it saves both 5mp and 34 mp (RAW and JPEG) images in one click.
    Which i think Oppo Find 7 Does'nt.

    Also the Oversampling theory is good, but then their are some drawbacks,
    imo 1020 can produce 160 mp images that way
    03-27-2014 05:55 AM
  20. Crasstoe's Avatar
    imo 1020 can produce 160 mp images that way
    If they can add this via software for scenic shots, with raw support I'd be chuffed.
    03-27-2014 07:39 AM
  21. John20212's Avatar
    The bottom line is that the Lumia 1020 is the real deal and what Oppo have done is just find a way to try to cheat people into believing that they can compete with Nokia's 41mp beast, by claiming 50mp photo taking capability.
    03-27-2014 07:54 AM
  22. aitt's Avatar
    but it saves both 5mp and 34 mp (RAW and JPEG) images in one click.
    Which i think Oppo Find 7 Does'nt.

    Also the Oversampling theory is good, but then their are some drawbacks,
    imo 1020 can produce 160 mp images that way
    That's not the point Im addressing. The point is how can someone say what practical use is there for a 50 mp camera for everyday use? One could say the same thing about the 1020. No? I'm not talking about RAW or real deal.
    03-27-2014 08:05 AM
  23. amrut_m's Avatar
    This is what 41 mp senor is about.
    It can handle any situation , any lighting really good and better than other phones
    7-nokia-lumia-1020-sky-5mp.jpg

    This is the result from samsun galaxy note 3
    7-samsung-galaxy-note-3-sky.jpg

    Now this what you see from Xperia Z1
    7-sony-xperia-z1-compact-sky.jpg


    Next i can reinvent zoom and make a new image all together which other phones have problem in doing,
    Crop from 1020
    7-nokia-lumia-1020-sky-5mp1.jpg

    Crop from Note 3
    7-samsung-galaxy-note-3-sky1.jpg

    Crop from Xperia Z1
    7-sony-xperia-z1-compact-sky1.jpg

    now all people wont need this everyday but i do, 1020 can be called a niche device for photography enthusiasts.
    Live2Deliver and Crasstoe like this.
    03-27-2014 08:32 AM
  24. Live2Deliver's Avatar
    That's not the point Im addressing. The point is how can Live2Deliver say what practical use is there for a 50 mp camera for everyday use? One could say the same thing about the 1020. No? I'm not talking about RAW or real deal.
    If you are a photographer on a job, do you use a cellphone with the relatively tiny sensor to shoot a 50mp photo or a full-frame DSLR? For someone who really cares about taking good photographs, wouldn't he also bring his dedicated camera along?
    On the other hand, if you are a causal shooter do you shoot 50mp photos everywhere you go?

    See any purpose in the 50mp? Only a small interested group will use it.

    That is not exactly the case with 1020. The 38mp photo is used to supersample a flawless 5mp photo which everyone will love.
    To keep the 38mp photo or not is the user's choice, but there is a good purpose for it, supersampling.

    I won't be repeat following points of my post.
    03-27-2014 10:45 AM
  25. aitt's Avatar
    If you are a photographer on a job, do you use a cellphone with the relatively tiny sensor to shoot a 50mp photo or a full-frame DSLR? For someone who really cares about taking good photographs, wouldn't he also bring his dedicated camera along?
    On the other hand, if you are a causal shooter do you shoot 50mp photos everywhere you go?

    See any purpose in the 50mp? Only a small interested group will use it.

    That is not exactly the case with 1020. The 38mp photo is used to supersample a flawless 5mp photo which everyone will love.
    To keep the 38mp photo or not is the user's choice, but there is a good purpose for it, supersampling.

    I won't be repeat following points of my post.
    Someone who is a real photographer will not be using any phone for real shots. That should be a given. Which is why the 1020 is a niche product. I really don't think you're getting my point. Most everyday camera user will not care about a 50mp for everyday shots as well as a 1020. The argument is not about the quality cause that's a given the 1020 takes actual MP shots without all the fancy lingo to make it sound good. The average person as I am will not care. So once again one could say the same thing about the 1020 and PRACTICAL everyday use. The two phones shouldn't even be compared to each other. The 1520 and Oppo7 would be a better comparison with closer sensors, and even then the 1520 would better. What Oppo did is find a weird better way to create a clearer shot with a smaller sensor. Whether a person cares or think their camera is producing 50mp shots most likely won't care cause they taking auto snaps and selfies anyway. You're basically repeating the same thing I'm saying but willing to exclude the 1020. If you read the article its only taking 13 mp burst shots and over sampling them
    Last edited by aitt; 03-27-2014 at 11:27 AM.
    03-27-2014 11:05 AM
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