03-20-2014 07:44 AM
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  1. ttsoldier's Avatar
    So.. I noticed with my new 1020 that my 920 has better low light performance...

    I tried some video recording in my dimly lit room and can't see anything on the 1020.... example...

    This is what the 1020 sees...

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    This is what the 920 sees...

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    It's a new phone. Couple days old. Factory reset it as I took it out the box. Updated to black.

    Thoughts?
    03-16-2014 08:03 AM
  2. ttsoldier's Avatar
    Took some screens shots here for comparison again....

    1020... Why is it so dark and noisy.. Look at the lines at the edge of the screen too....

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    920...

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    03-16-2014 09:05 AM
  3. Gilbert Marcoux's Avatar
    Could you put up some actual pictures for comparison?
    03-16-2014 09:56 AM
  4. Dexterrino's Avatar
    it is because 920 has aperture f/ 2.0
    where 1020 is f/2.2
    if you buy 720 it will be the brightest in low light because it has f/ 1.9
    >all in having steady hands for no blur<
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    03-16-2014 10:35 AM
  5. ttsoldier's Avatar
    it is because 920 has aperture f/ 2.0
    where 1020 is f/2.2
    if you buy 720 it will be the brightest in low light because it has f/ 1.9
    >all in having steady hands for no blur<
    so you're saying its normal?

    what about the lines?
    03-16-2014 10:49 AM
  6. ttsoldier's Avatar
    Could you put up some actual pictures for comparison?
    the actual pictures are fine. But it's the video recording in more concerned about. I mean, look at the picture, I can't see anything !
    03-16-2014 10:57 AM
  7. zvonac's Avatar
    @ ttsoldier,
    you have vertical lines on video, and my lumia has horizontal lines on video, now the question is whether it is a software issue...
    920 is have light video because it has f2.0, and 1020 f2.2..
    03-16-2014 11:21 AM
  8. Robinsonmac's Avatar
    The 920 has a pink tint in the middle of the pic too
    03-16-2014 03:51 PM
  9. ttsoldier's Avatar
    @ ttsoldier,
    you have vertical lines on video, and my lumia has horizontal lines on video, now the question is whether it is a software issue...
    920 is have light video because it has f2.0, and 1020 f2.2..
    I think its because i was holding the phone in portrait and you , in landscape :)

    Day light vids seem fine though..
    03-16-2014 05:05 PM
  10. jojoe42's Avatar
    I think its because i was holding the phone in portrait and you , in landscape :)


    Day light vids seem fine though..
    As Dexterrino mentioned, the 1020 has an f2.2 aperture whereas the 920 has an f2.0. This is to address the 'softness' of photos that users originally complained about - in a nutshell the lower the aperture the more light is let in but the softer the photo; the higher the aperture the less light is let in and the sharper the photo (generally). Furthermore I reckon the lines are there on the 1020 (I've noticed this too) because the phone simply hasn't been around as long - in the past two years there has been a lot of time for the engineers to refine the firmware for the camera on the 920 whereas the 1020 has only been out for a year.
    03-17-2014 12:12 AM
  11. chmun77's Avatar
    In fact, not only 920. I was having a 925 before my current 1020. And I can see much brighter on the viewfinder with the 925, but is pitch dark for 1020. Not sure if it is due to the F2.0 of 925. But 925 indeed can result in much brighter images for dark places as compared to 1020.
    03-17-2014 01:09 AM
  12. BatteryLife's Avatar
    If I am not mistaken the quality/framerate of the video affects the brightness too. 24 fps will be brighter than 30 fps
    03-17-2014 01:14 AM
  13. Crasstoe's Avatar
    You are correct as the effective shutter speed is increased, marginally but it does help.

    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1020 using Tapatalk
    03-17-2014 03:10 AM
  14. FBirraque's Avatar
    I was very disappointed with the 1020 after 3 months, sold it and went back to 920.
    03-17-2014 05:09 AM
  15. Truman82's Avatar
    Wonder will they continue the "see more with lumia 9x0"thing with the 930,thus improving even more the low light performance?

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
    03-17-2014 06:02 AM
  16. ttsoldier's Avatar
    I was very disappointed with the 1020 after 3 months, sold it and went back to 920.
    I am very disappointed with the low light video recoding :(

    Thanks for all the answers guys
    03-17-2014 09:31 AM
  17. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    I also have a 1020 and also will admit the low light performance is worse than my old 920. Luckily it was a free warranty replacement, but I recommend that if low light photography is your goal of the pureview camera, stick to the 920. Don't waste your upgrade on the 1020. I personally can't wait for the WP8.1 devices. Hopefully there will be some awesome new camera tech coupled with a capable processor :)
    03-17-2014 03:10 PM
  18. squadz's Avatar
    Low light doesn't look so good.
    03-17-2014 05:26 PM
  19. RJ Priest's Avatar
    I'm hoping that there will be a 1020 successor with f2.0. Surely with those 41 megapixels, Nokia can more easily correct for softness with software processing.

    I love that low light performance of the 920 / 925.
    03-17-2014 06:20 PM
  20. Tom Snyder's Avatar
    Thanks for all the info everyone, was considering a 1020 and giving my wife the old 920, looks like she'll be getting a 1020 or Samsung Galaxy 4s now. Did not realize the 1020 could not equal the 920 in low light pictures and I need the ability to capture low light shots.
    03-17-2014 11:30 PM
  21. anon5997296's Avatar
    Proud owner of 920 :-D
    03-18-2014 12:06 AM
  22. dennisfang1's Avatar
    Sorry guys, I don't usually post, but this thread is really starting to annoy me. Firstly it is impossible for the 920 to have better low light capabilities than the 1020, for the sensor is four times smaller, and thus it can only capture 1/4th of the light that the 1020 gathers. Furthermore, the argument that the 920 has a wider aperture than the 1020, hence contains superior low-light capabilities is a misguided one because sensor size and aperture are intrinsically linked. For example, because the 1020 has a smaller sensor than a full frame DSLR, its light gathering abilities is equivalent to a DSLR wit the aperture aperture is equivalent to approximately f8 or more. Moreover, despite the 720 having the largest aperture of F1.9, because of its minuscule sensor of one in three point two, to say that it has the best low light ability is ridiculous. The viewfinder, or even the image might be brighter on the 720 or the 920, but this has nothing to do with the phone's light capturing ability, rather it only demonstrates the phone's processing methods as well as the settings the camera captures in.
    Basically, all I wanted to say is that the light gathering abilities depicted by aperture size is completely relative to the sensor size. Cheers :)
    03-18-2014 12:29 AM
  23. buxz777's Avatar
    I get great low light shots from my 1020 , with much less noise then my old 920 , how people can judge their phones low light capabilities on what they see through the viewfinder is beyond me , don't forget that the 1020 also has manual controls , just make the shutter slower to let more light in and get better night time shots

    as the user above said the sensor is 4x bigger on the 1020 , it will produce much better shots with less noise ;-)
    03-18-2014 01:18 AM
  24. buxz777's Avatar
    Thanks for all the info everyone, was considering a 1020 and giving my wife the old 920, looks like she'll be getting a 1020 or Samsung Galaxy 4s now. Did not realize the 1020 could not equal the 920 in low light pictures and I need the ability to capture low light shots.
    if you keep the 920 and give your wife the upgrade 1020 then she is one very lucky lady indeed ;-) the 1020 easily trumps the 920 , the 920 is a great device but it doesn't have the zoom or oversampling , cant shoot raw , has a tiny sensor compared to the 1020 , rich recording is better on the 1020 , 1020 has 2gb ram , no xenon flash on the 920 etc etc

    I wouldn't give up your upgrade based on what a few people have said in this thread , no way , most of it isn't true , yes the 920 has a bigger aperture , but it misses out on so much else like the sensor , xenon flash , zoom , oversampling , raw shooting , reframing , etc etc
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    03-18-2014 01:21 AM
  25. Dexterrino's Avatar
    but using 2-4 seconds on shutter speed,1020 can beat 920 marginally. there is only 0.2 difference on aperture. but 1020 sensor size is larger- means more surface area for light to come in.

    on a side note, please like this comment so i can see it on my notifs. and reply to me how to enable notifications on my wpcentral acc. i want to see notifs on who replied to my comments on posts and forums. - only liked comments on forums is enabled on notif as it seems
    -others a welcome to help me
    03-19-2014 09:11 AM
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