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07-20-2014 11:21 PM
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  1. hprvez's Avatar
    Calm down. WP 8.1 is. Still in beta.

    No it's not.
    07-13-2014 03:56 PM
  2. DrRyder's Avatar
    Calm down. WP 8.1 is. Still in beta.
    >WP 8.1 still in beta
    >Multiple devices released and for sale right now that have WP 8.1 on them.

    What? Its not in beta. Its done. The only thing we're waiting on is the Cyan firmware update from the wireless providers.
    07-13-2014 04:58 PM
  3. chmun77's Avatar
    Calm down. WP 8.1 is. Still in beta.
    Stop deceiving yourself. Even with WP8.1 (and it is no longer in BETA), resuming is still happening on slower devices. Face it. Windows Phone OS is not as slick as we are told. It requires good hardware to make it shine, just like Android and iOS or any other OSes. I'm seeing lots of resuming on the old 1020 than the 1520.

    And IMO, Android is still better in handling app switching. When I tap on the notifications on the Android, apps launch / switches immediately. On the other hand, Windows Phone animates like crazy whenever I tap on an incoming toast. Opening Whatsapp on 1020 is darn slow. App issues? Consumers don't care. If it is slow, they switch. Simple as that.
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    07-13-2014 08:39 PM
  4. chmun77's Avatar
    That's because Android treats background processes like Windows 8 does - they literally have free reign to do whatever on the background and consume as much memory and resources as they need. WP suspends apps, with WP8.1 once developers optimise their apps for fast resume/switch to the new Silverlight/WinRT platform you won't see those resuming screens anymore. Also I would say it's optimisation, the messaging app wasn't this slow in GDR3 and there are still bugs that need tweaking. Plus, firmware makes a difference to performance too
    iOS also suspends apps. But I'm not seeing such weird behaviors. Things will be better with the new WinRT? I don't think so because they are already reports of people still seeing Resuming.... problems. But I'm not sure if those apps are optimized or not. Time will tell. I hope things will be better when time comes.
    07-13-2014 08:41 PM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    Stop deceiving yourself. Even with WP8.1 (and it is no longer in BETA), resuming is still happening on slower devices. Face it. Windows Phone OS is not as slick as we are told. It requires good hardware to make it shine, just like Android and iOS or any other OSes. I'm seeing lots of resuming on the old 1020 than the 1520.

    And IMO, Android is still better in handling app switching. When I tap on the notifications on the Android, apps launch / switches immediately. On the other hand, Windows Phone animates like crazy whenever I tap on an incoming toast. Opening Whatsapp on 1020 is darn slow. App issues? Consumers don't care. If it is slow, they switch. Simple as that.
    I agree. No matter the theoretical superiority of how WP handles opening apps and app switching, Android outshines it by a long shot in real world performance. My 920 that has almost nothing on it takes forever to open apps. And no, there's nothing wrong with it. I've had 2 920's and other miscellaneous WPs, and they're all the same. Even now, when I open Cortana on my 920, I wait 3 seconds while it says "Getting things ready...". I can close it and reopen it 1/2 second later, same thing. I unpinned Cortana's live tile, no difference.

    I just testing opening apps, comparing my 920 with WP8.1 and my Verizon Moto G with KitKat 4.4.2. (I use a Nexus 5 as my daily driver but I know that wouldn't be a fair comparison to the 920.) I tested eBay, Reddit (Baconit on WP), and Tapatalk. I cleared the recent app list on both so they were both opening the apps cold. The Moto G won every single one. And, when I closed them and reopened them, there was no comparison. The Moto G reopened them instantly, but the 920 had a lot of animation before reopening them. Now, I don't know if animation is always part of opening apps and the app was waiting on the animation, but either way it takes a long time until it's ready to go.

    In short, the app switching system in WP needs a lot of work to get anywhere close to what it's up against.
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    07-13-2014 09:27 PM
  6. chezm's Avatar
    Agreed, app switching is not smooth, iOS7 on iPhone 5S (wife's) runs seamless compared my 1020. I hate to admit it but Windows Mobile needs to settle on 3 phones (low end, high end, high end phablet) and work hard at making sure all models run fluid, optimized if required. Third party is one thing but Lumia is MS so this should be figured out by now.

    Meh, with the recent rumor of 1020 losing support Sept 2014, I'm done with WP. I love the OS but am having a hard time standing behind a company that doesn't backup proper support...i got this device expecting 2 more years.
    chmun77 likes this.
    07-13-2014 10:14 PM
  7. jojoe42's Avatar
    iOS also suspends apps. But I'm not seeing such weird behaviors. Things will be better with the new WinRT? I don't think so because they are already reports of people still seeing Resuming.... problems. But I'm not sure if those apps are optimized or not. Time will tell. I hope things will be better when time comes.
    Download a WinRT/Universal app...I don't see any resuming signs on those
    07-13-2014 11:52 PM
  8. portalfocus's Avatar
    Download a WinRT/Universal app...I don't see any resuming signs on those
    I rarely get resuming screen while switching. And I insist.. Its a preview not a full blown WP 8.1 yet. You ll see
    07-15-2014 10:26 PM
  9. erda0's Avatar
    Please, Does anyone of you got the official update to Cyan and can tell me if there is any improvements with this f*$&%# resuming screen?!
    07-17-2014 09:38 AM
  10. chmun77's Avatar
    Please, Does anyone of you got the official update to Cyan and can tell me if there is any improvements with this f*$&%# resuming screen?!
    Yes, I would like to know also although I highly doubt WinRT will do the job. On slower phones, resuming is just bound to be there.
    07-18-2014 03:53 AM
  11. Taigatrommel's Avatar
    Meh, with the recent rumor of 1020 losing support Sept 2014, I'm done with WP. I love the OS but am having a hard time standing behind a company that doesn't backup proper support...i got this device expecting 2 more years.
    Don't let yourself down by those rumours. EoL simply means the device ceases production and sales, the same happened to the 920 a couple of months ago. I am not sure about the 925, there was not a word about it.
    The 1020 will still receive support in terms of updates, I am pretty sure we will at least see the 8.1 Update 1, if not even the Update 2 on our 1020s.

    However as you have seen with the Cyan update, quite some features are not available for our older devices.


    As to the topic, I do not have too many resuming problems on my 1020. Yet I don't have too many apps installed. However when I see it, it is quite annoying indeed. It clearly os not due to the fact WP 8.1 still being in beta, it is not: The Cyan version is the same as the latest DP version.
    Cyan also doesn't seem to do much in terms of background optimizations according to some 925 owners who upgraded from DP to Cyan.
    Microsoft needs to go back to the drawing board and I also guess app developers need to keep optimizing their apps for 8.1
    07-18-2014 04:32 AM
  12. Kingsly Eleazer's Avatar
    Microsoft has fixed the "resuming" issue. It is now upto the developers to update or rewrite their app in winRT. OneMusic, myTube beta, Files, default calendar and facebook beta are some apps written in winRT. If you use and switch between these apps you will realise that the apps open and close almost instantly. But if you switch between winRT and Silverlight apps (which is the case in the current usage scenario) you will see the "resuming" screen because Silverlight and winRT apps handle memory very differently.



    TLDR, If you use only winRT apps you will no longer see the "resuming" and "loading" screens

    Sent from Lumia 920 using Tapatalk
    Last edited by Kingsly Eleazer; 07-18-2014 at 02:00 PM.
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    07-18-2014 11:37 AM
  13. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    I have fb beta, and when switching to it, there is "resuming" text for some time.
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    07-19-2014 01:41 AM
  14. erda0's Avatar
    I didn't have this resuming screen in android.. It's doesn't matter which app it was.
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    07-20-2014 10:55 AM
  15. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    I didn't have this resuming screen in android.. It's doesn't matter which app it was.
    nobody asks and nobody cares

    I think we already got a conclusion in this thread
    Microsoft did their part to reduce the "Resuming...", now it's up to the developers to implement it
    although, Microsoft can do better by optimizing the old apps
    07-20-2014 04:06 PM
  16. erda0's Avatar
    nobody asks and nobody cares

    I think we already got a conclusion in this thread
    Microsoft did their part to reduce the "Resuming...", now it's up to the developers to implement it
    although, Microsoft can do better by optimizing the old apps
    I care. I moved to windows phone after 5 years with android.
    WinSammie and chezm like this.
    07-20-2014 11:21 PM
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