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  1. KllR007's Avatar
    Hi i thinking about upgrade my 920.
    Im considering:
    Lumia 1020:
    +Great camera
    +Size as 920
    -AMOLED
    -Older device

    Lumia 930:
    + New device
    + Alluminium
    -AMOLED
    -Bigger size
    - and of course price

    So what now ?
    07-17-2014 06:32 AM
  2. Andrei Dorin's Avatar
    I don't know never had one of this phones but a new model phone is always better only if you want the 1020 for his camera 📷.
    07-17-2014 06:34 AM
  3. aximtreo's Avatar
    Hi i thinking about upgrade my 920.
    Im considering:
    Lumia 1020:
    +Great camera
    +Size as 920
    -AMOLED
    -Older device

    Lumia 930:
    + New device
    + Alluminium
    -AMOLED
    -Bigger size
    - and of course price

    So what now ?

    To me it would be an easy decision. The 1020 is about a year old and has been marked for EOL in September 2014. The 930 is newly announced and is the best MS has to offer until late fall.

    I honestly don't see the problem with your decision.
    07-17-2014 08:00 AM
  4. Ma1dere's Avatar
    930 doesn't have glance, it's SoC is pretty outdated, battery could be better.
    If you want the best camera you can get on the cellphone and you need to upgrade right now, go for 1020.
    Otherwise I'll suggest waiting or considering a non-WP option.
    07-17-2014 08:34 AM
  5. Blacklac's Avatar
    Really, do you want the best camera or the more future proof, faster device?

    We should be seeing new devices in a few months. If your going to do a contract, might consider waiting.
    07-17-2014 08:36 AM
  6. KllR007's Avatar
    other "non-WP" option, is not option for me ;) Only WP.

    Camera or newer device... Thats problem :D I dont know.

    If 930 had PureView 40mpx from 1020 its been choice number one.
    Is there any Pros and Cons on this devices that i dont write ? For better overview.
    07-17-2014 10:43 AM
  7. nischal shrestha's Avatar
    am confused between 1320 ,930 and 1020 ,i will wait ,i heard somewhere about lumia 830 and sucessor to lumia 1020
    07-17-2014 10:52 AM
  8. David Lohrentz's Avatar
    I would say it depends on whether you will be on contract or not, how urgent you are to upgrade, how important the camera is to you, and how important it is to unlock new features on WP8.1 and the next OS upgrade that are hardware dependent.

    The choice would be a little clearer if you knew now when new WP devices will be released in the next six months and what their specs will be.
    07-17-2014 10:58 AM
  9. RTGent's Avatar
    1020: yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
    07-17-2014 12:06 PM
  10. Taigatrommel's Avatar
    It really depends on your own needs which phone to get. The 930 is a great phone for sure, but if you take a real look at it, it already is more than half a year old: It just is the Lumia Icon in a global variant. In the Android world, the speedy Snapdragon 800 is already considered outdated as of now. Which of cause doesn't mean it is slow or anything, especially on a Windows Phone.

    If pricing is one concern, the 1020 should have quite a plus. The only reason why I decided to get my one was because of the 64 gig offer and a dirt cheap price on contract.

    If you want the best camera,get the 1020. Keep in mind though that the 930 will most likely have a fast shot-to-shot time due to the better CPU and lesser processed pixels. This is quite a vital point for many people, since the best camera is useless if it just processing the last photo and you miss that special moment you wanted to capture.

    If you don't need that new phone now and could wait a bit longer, I'd do that. Besides that the 1020 still offers a decent enough WP experience and you won't get a bad device at all. The 930 is just more cutting edge compared to the older models.
    07-18-2014 02:12 AM
  11. chmun77's Avatar
    I will say 930 for better day to day usage than 1020, if camera is not a important factor for you. Believe me, opening apps on a snapdragon 800 is way much better than the old hardware of 1020. I'm also having a 1520 beside 1020, and I can 100% tell you that you will be frustrated by how much slower 1020 is when launching apps. I'm not sure how WP8.1 will improve 1020, but don't bet too much on it since the hardware of 1020 is way slower.
    07-18-2014 03:49 AM
  12. Coreldan's Avatar
    It depends how far you really value that camera. I would also feel like pointing out that while the 1020 can produce the best photos, it's not necessarily the most user friendly or convenient in achieving that. Shot-to-shot time counts more to many than the extra quality 1020 can produce. It's sort of like " a nice little point and shoot" vs. "DSLR". Most people don't need the DSLR and are tbh overwhelmed by it.

    My fiancee just got a 1020 and while I know it's capabilities are far beyond my 920, there are already a few scenarios where I just got the better pics faster than she did.
    07-18-2014 06:03 AM
  13. RTGent's Avatar
    I will say 930 for better day to day usage than 1020, if camera is not a important factor for you. Believe me, opening apps on a snapdragon 800 is way much better than the old hardware of 1020. I'm also having a 1520 beside 1020, and I can 100% tell you that you will be frustrated by how much slower 1020 is when launching apps. I'm not sure how WP8.1 will improve 1020, but don't bet too much on it since the hardware of 1020 is way slower.
    Delay in opening apps on a 1020?? Not here, on 8.0. Compared to a 1520, app for app, maybe .75 versus a full second, or 1.5 versus two-three. I'd agree to not as fast, but this "old hardware" is in no way slow. Even Accuweather, with ads and data loaded, is ready to navigate in 3 seconds. Same with my nytimes, espn and other webpage tiles that involve launching IE and navigating to a site/page. Nothing I run is slow, per se. Then again, we all have our own frustration levels.
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    07-18-2014 12:02 PM
  14. chmun77's Avatar
    Delay in opening apps on a 1020?? Not here, on 8.0. Compared to a 1520, app for app, maybe .75 versus a full second, or 1.5 versus two-three. I'd agree to not as fast, but this "old hardware" is in no way slow. Even Accuweather, with ads and data loaded, is ready to navigate in 3 seconds. Same with my nytimes, espn and other webpage tiles that involve launching IE and navigating to a site/page. Nothing I run is slow, per se. Then again, we all have our own frustration levels.
    You may say 0.75 is nothing. But when you are receiving lots of incoming Whatsapp msg, this little delay will become very irritating. Every tap on the toast will results in slower launching of the app and then followed by the chats. It is not slow as in lag or whatsoever. But comparing to day to day operations on my other 1520, 1020 is just not considered as "fast" anymore. Another excellent example is Facebook messenger. Even turning off Wifi on 1020 is slower than the 1520.
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    07-18-2014 09:41 PM
  15. KllR007's Avatar
    I was thinking about this whole night :D

    And I will go for 1020.
    Yeah I know its not as fast as 930, but it has smaller size (wich very importatn to me, i dont like phablets, and my ideal phone is size like Iphone 5)... Even 920 is lareger then i like, so 930s size will be over my liking.
    And if I get with 1020 better camera, smaller size, and for lower price, I will sacrifice faster HW and design (which i liked more then 920/1020) and Qi built-in charging.

    But, i will go to some shop to hold 930 in my hands only for sure :D

    So thanks to all of you. Great comunity.

    PS: sorry for my bad english, hope you understands
    Last edited by mmm273; 07-19-2014 at 05:06 AM.
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    07-19-2014 04:51 AM
  16. Taigatrommel's Avatar
    I can understand chmun77s statement now, after comparing my 1020 to a 930 in the store, switching between apps is indeed faster. Taking pictures is faster too, I haven't measured any times but I think the 930 needs roughly 1/3, maybe even just a quarter the time to take a 5mp+19mp jpeg compared to the 1020 taking a 5mp+38mp jpeg. However for my own use, the overall camera quality is more important.

    Also keep in mind the 1020 has a Xenon flash which really comes handy in low-light situation compared to the (even dual) LED lights.

    I have to admit though Nokia created a very nice device with the 930, it really feels great in your hand. Not that the previous flagships didn't, but they simply again created a very good design there.
    chmun77 likes this.
    07-19-2014 06:15 AM
  17. chezm's Avatar
    As much as I love my 1020, id go with the 930 between the 2. My suggest is to wait and confirm nothing else is coming out, but if you only want one of those...930 is my suggestion.
    07-19-2014 02:58 PM
  18. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    First world problems that apps starts 0.1.-0.5 s slower😉
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
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    07-20-2014 03:28 AM
  19. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    As i love to take pictures of things to hold on as memories, the quality of those pictures are extremely important. So for that I will hold on to 1020 as the picture quality, both daylight and low light are superior 😊
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    07-20-2014 03:30 AM
  20. BlackSheriff84's Avatar
    New the 1020 costs $600 and the 930 costs $800 not much difference really but personally I would go with the newer phone so the 930. Yes the camera isn't as good but its still better than most other camera phones on the market today plus its overall faster and cleaner.
    But saying that if price is an issue you can get the 1020 second hand for about 1/2 price just take a look on ebay... http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/221497896033?nav=SEARCH
    Sent from my RM-1045_1036 using Tapatalk
    07-20-2014 07:27 AM
  21. KllR007's Avatar
    So i tried to think about it a whole free time I have. And after day and night, I made another decicion :
    I will wait till september /upgrade its not important now, so i can wait/ and after that will be 2 situation:
    1. Lumia 930 will be cheaper than now
    2. New phones, maybe 1020 succesor.

    So I see in september what phone i take, but 1020 go out of choice because i dont take photos too much, and I want better HW compared to 41mpx camera.
    Beside that, L930 had better camera than 920 so here will be some upgrade.

    Thanks.

    PS: sorry for my bad english, hope you understands
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    07-20-2014 09:52 AM
  22. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    1520 😃
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    07-21-2014 12:14 AM
  23. Brandorak's Avatar
    I recently bought a 1020, almost two months ago, unlocked ATT version to use on T-Mobile. Only $400 unlocked, brand new off Amazon.

    My first Windows Phone, updated the phone completely, installed the 8.1 developer preview, updated completely, then reset the phone to start fresh. Everything has worked really well, hardly ever any crashes and I think it crashed and rebooted on it's own once since I got it. More stable than my already very stable Nexus 4.

    Pros:
    +Camera, digital zoom that works, recropping, manual controls
    +My first AMOLED screen and I actually prefer it over LCD, even with pentile pixel matrix it looks good, bright even in sunlight with Nokia's adjustments, Glance screen is wonderful
    +Hardware design, quality you can feel in your hand, Camera button is great
    +Battery for me has been pretty good! Taking pictures uses it pretty fast. If I don't take many pictures and use my phone moderately, I'm consistently at 50% or more walking out of work at 5pm, going since 7am. I have stuff I want turned on like push email, but put any apps I don't need disabled to run in the background. Like Facebook. Phone charges fast compared to Nexus 4
    +Windows phone is wonderful, 8.1 is essential coming from Android for notifications and toggles, start screen is pretty fantastic
    +In my area (Minneapolis, suburbs) LTE works fantastic on T-Mobile, generally 20mbps, highest I've seen is 40!

    Cons:
    -Camera is slow to load, slow picture-to-picture time, but it's worth it in my opinion for the quality.
    -Huge camera hump on the back, I've gotten used to it but I'd prefer flat back

    Mixed:
    =Processor is outdated, but 8.1 still runs great and everything is fairly zippy, hopefully Cyan makes it even better
    =Screen is a little small but the quality is great
    =Double tap to wake is great, but the screen is so sensitive if I get a text while I'm biking once in a while it will start opening apps, etc. Even after I turned touch sensitivity to normal. I can probably just turn on do-not-disturb mode to help with this so I won't get texts.
    =App quality and selection is definitely lacking after just coming from Android. But I'm not a huge app guy. I think the OS itself is much better and more polished than Android. Much leaner and more stable, even on 8.1, here's hoping Microsoft keeps up the pace with updates and improvements. They're finally at parity for the most part.

    TLDR: The greatest pro and con of the 1020 is the camera, everything about the phone is built to support it. If you are into photography, the 1020 is a really fun, manual, pocket super-camera. The day-to-day smartphone usage compared to my Nexus 4 is better in most areas; I mainly miss the Google apps like maps (especially for biking). If you aren't into photography, definitely get the 930, it should have much better longevity and a better general-use smartphone experience.
    07-21-2014 11:14 AM

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